The club proper fecked themselves. Better bite the bullet and pay him off or he'll bloody ruin us.
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Took the press long enough to catch on....Feck this shit, Louis.
It's a good start, but we need a lot more voices turning against him and fast.
I think for some of the press , they dont want to be one to call out Rooney and then subsequently proven wrong
See Alan Hansen or Rob Smyth . So its better to wait for someone to go first and then ride the bandwagon.
Others, simply have vested interests in Rooney for whatever reasons.
What really annoys me is that when he is asked about his form, instead of admitting that he is poor, he always says the same thing: "I only get shit because I am Wayne Rooney".
That Rob Smyth article - O dear
.Poor guy - literally just before the best season we've seen at United since 1999 in terms of relentless attacking football that ended with the PL trophy in the bag and almost the FA Cup and CL too.
A club like Manchester United should have a striker who can contribute to the overall play when the scooring boots decide to take a break. Rooney is a quality player but 2 goals out of eight is just not cutting the cloth. You can argue that he is not getting the chances, but its about making the runs and giving yourself that extra yard to set your chance up. The goal at Everton was a perfect example and he still has decent pace, but he keeps sticking in the same position waiting for a bal before being beaten in the air or physically. A striker these days can not stick around on one spot, you have to create unpredictability and make the defenders question their position. RVP at his prime was an excellent example of making those runs and having defenders questioning what to do next. Still many games to play for him to turn it up a notch, but the noise of critics is getting louder and louder.
Thats the thing, a lot of people were saying similar things about Fergie, but that one stuck out and he cant live this down even today.That Rob Smyth article - O dear
Poor guy - literally just before the best season we've seen at United since 1999 in terms of relentless attacking football that ended with the PL trophy in the bag and almost the FA Cup and CL too.
Most of the press don't want to be the guy that wrote "that"article about Rooney. Cowards, yes..seeing as they are fond of laying into the non-favourites.
I couldn't care less about Hansen (I wasn't watching football back then) nor about Smyth (his article was stupid considering United did a lot better in the 2005-06 season compared to the previous 2 seasons). All signs for a steep decline are there and Rooney is not the only striker suffering from such and turning quickly into has-beens these days (see RVP, Falcao, Torres, etc.). Furthermore, the journos who follow the national team must have seen that Rooney has done feck all in recent times bar scoring a few penalties, no?
I'm sure they do..but he's England captain and All time top scorer..he will be held by high regard by a lot of them..Also most of them really arent United fans, and will not care about the effects on our results.
For them, it will be something like Van Gaal's "weird" tactics or his poor teammates to blame. To admit that their best player and greatest hope is over the hill at 29/30 is a tough pill to swallow.
Some of them will have a relationship with Rooney himself,as he has been a fixture for such a long time in English football.
100% it isn't a bad patch of form when you've been on a steady decline for almost 18 months, we all just didn't think it would happen this quickly.
It's over.
Yeah. That sort of response makes me sad and mad all at the same time. The club, people around him, agents, media etc have all created a monster (ego wise that is).
Funny. People and media already called Michael Owen a has-been when he was around that age, and he also used to have that tag of "best player/greatest hope".
Nice to see that headline news on the BBC website is an appalling piece defending him.
But Owen was struggling at Newcastle at the same age..this is the captain of the NT and of the biggest team in the country. Of course both are done, but I am giving reasons why the press may have been giving Rooney such an easier time. He's getting the David Moyes treatment from journos.
Eventually even they will not be able to dress it up. Except for maybe Gary, he wont dare criticize him.
Ok just heard from two fellow fans who were at the match.
One said people around him were getting on Rooney's case after one of his inexplicable wayward passes.
Another one said people beside him were adamant that he needs dropping.
If this continues, can't say I feel too confident that the match going fans won't make their feelings heard in a big way...
One said people around him were getting on Rooney's case after one of his inexplicable wayward passes.
Another one said people beside him were adamant that he needs dropping.
If this continues, can't say I feel too confident that the match going fans won't make their feelings heard in a big way...
Absolutely finished. Been saying it for ages and there is no way this is just a form issue now. His good games are now the exception and with him in the team it's like playing with a man down. I can only think that Van Gaal doesn't want to rock the boat too soon but it's fast becoming a situation where there is no other option but to drop him. He's a total liability.
And that BBC piece saying he's not a 9 is just more excuses. We hear it time and again that he's best as a 9, then when he stinks the place out he's a 10. It's just a repeating cycle of a player that not good enough anymore.
And that BBC piece saying he's not a 9 is just more excuses. We hear it time and again that he's best as a 9, then when he stinks the place out he's a 10. It's just a repeating cycle of a player that not good enough anymore.
The best praise Rooney could've been given today was a 90th minute shove in our own box from an opposition set piece. It's going beyond infuriating at this point.
IKR. Shit attempt to defend him.
At least, Jermaine Jenas shouts that Rooney is finished as a number 9. However, he's crazy if he thinks that playing Rooney as the number 10 will help him anyhow. We already tried that several times and to no effect.
Has anyone thought of this...
LVG us known to give youth a chance when they're ready, correct or not (Kluivert, seedorf , muller, iniesta etc etc)
Whoever is at fault, be it Louie, woody or the club, we basically have two strikers on our books as Wilson just aint ready.
Maybe, just maybe Louie doesn't want to put martial in as our number 9 this season. Be it because he doesn't want to put the pressure on the young lad, burn him out, wants him to get to used to the physicality of our league, whatever the reason is.
Hence his only option right now is to play Wayne up front.
Come on folks, he's just broken the England goal record, on par with our legend law, quickest guy to score x goals by the age of 30.
Do those at the match also not think he doesn't feel or hear you all sighing and booing him. Imagine going to work and before you even sit down people complaining about you. Think you're gonna do a good job that day.
I think we just need to get behind the lad, bad game or not, till we get a replacement in and then we clap the lad off into the sunset as a united legend who just burnt out too soon
LVG us known to give youth a chance when they're ready, correct or not (Kluivert, seedorf , muller, iniesta etc etc)
Whoever is at fault, be it Louie, woody or the club, we basically have two strikers on our books as Wilson just aint ready.
Maybe, just maybe Louie doesn't want to put martial in as our number 9 this season. Be it because he doesn't want to put the pressure on the young lad, burn him out, wants him to get to used to the physicality of our league, whatever the reason is.
Hence his only option right now is to play Wayne up front.
Come on folks, he's just broken the England goal record, on par with our legend law, quickest guy to score x goals by the age of 30.
Do those at the match also not think he doesn't feel or hear you all sighing and booing him. Imagine going to work and before you even sit down people complaining about you. Think you're gonna do a good job that day.
I think we just need to get behind the lad, bad game or not, till we get a replacement in and then we clap the lad off into the sunset as a united legend who just burnt out too soon
It's a piece from Jermaine Jenas, I doubt any one gives a feck about what he has to say.
That's the crazy thing. People will say he's finished as a 9, but then will say oh he needs to play 10 and get involved in the game, he can still effect things with his great stamina and selfishness for the team. Apart from the fact he has zero creativity, an awful touch, and no agility to beat a man in tight areas. It's a real shame to see him fall like this but it has to happen some time. There are better options for the team now, he needs to be benched until he can show CONSISTENTLY that he can be a threat. Not just 1 game every couple weeks when people get on his back.
I'm sick to fecking death of the British press treating him like some sort of God. He's like bloody royalty nowadays because he's England captain.
They totally overlook his appalling run of form whearas they'd absolutely slaughter him in years gone by.
They totally overlook his appalling run of form whearas they'd absolutely slaughter him in years gone by.
He is shite.
It really is. Sad for me as ai said it when he signed. Shafted ourselves to keep him.
The Football 365 article is spot on. After 13 years of top flight football he has lost the physical explosiveness that made him a special player. That is not coming back.
He's never been 'the man' in world football but somehow United and England have managed to fabricate this.
I appreciate his efforts and he has been a great player at times but I get sick of the re-writing of history when it comes to this player. He really didn't become the player we thought he would.
His wages and his media reputation would have you thinking he was at one time on the level of Messi, Ronaldo or even fecking Kaka for those two years.
He was never that level.
There was a time when he was one on one with city's LB and a lot of space behind. I knew 100% he wasn't going to go past him and he didn't disappoint.
You have a good point about not having Martial taking on all that responsibility. But if so, why not put Martial on the bench and give him a breather? Instead he's starting him all the time. So I can't believe LVG is that worried about throwing Martial into the deep end but who knows?
On the fans supporting him - the problem is, the more you support him the more he thinks he's not doing anything wrong. It's precisely what the club have done - and as you can see it's causing massive issues for us now. When he's interviewed and doesn't want to acknowledge that he's not been playing well, you know he's in complete denial. Plus, as with most footballers, he has a massive ego - so it's unlikely he'll willingly reach the point where he accepts his performances have not been good enough. Maybe he does need a bit of a hard time to get the message?
Wow. Great article. I concur with every word.
If he has to play, put him on the left. The midfield 3 needs to stay the same, and Martial needs to play up top. Those are the only certainties about our team, along with Smalling and De Gea always playing. We should keep our spine the same every week, especially in big games, and not move Martial out wide to accommodate Rooney, because the way he's playing, he really doesn't deserve to push anyone anywhere. And besides, he still puts in a shift defensively and has always been a good crosser of the ball, so perhaps he could improve his form out wide with Martial stretching defences up top.
He really is holing us back as an attacking unit so badly right now.
I mean, he didn't even play that badly today (at least by recent standards anyway). He worked hard, defended well...but he just offers nothing up top. Absolutely nothing. No physical presence, no pace, no holdup...literally any ball into him to get him in on goal has to be perfect, or the defender has to make a mistake.
Its like trying to cut a joint of meat with a blunt instrument,
I mean, he didn't even play that badly today (at least by recent standards anyway). He worked hard, defended well...but he just offers nothing up top. Absolutely nothing. No physical presence, no pace, no holdup...literally any ball into him to get him in on goal has to be perfect, or the defender has to make a mistake.
Its like trying to cut a joint of meat with a blunt instrument,
First you theorize and then you conclude from the assumption. Why wouldn't he play with Martial as #9 when he's shown he is the only player at the club capable of doing so? I see no logical reason for not doing so. Besides, we've got another supremely talented player for the left wing.
I can't assume the reason for playing Rooney upfront when it's not working is logically sound. There is no evidence to back that up, just the assumption that a manager must know right, similar to "maybe Rooney is his old self during training"...
Falcao...
Are the Independent supposed to make us believe that? 
This is on par with all the propaganda shit that is sold in North Korea about Kim Jong-Un.
This is on par with all the propaganda shit that is sold in North Korea about Kim Jong-Un.Yep. The similarities between Rooney this season, and Falcao/RVP last, are clear for all to see.
Yeah, he is useless despite trying hard, that's sad to see.
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