Poor, as expected from him now. Could not hold the ball up for toffees. Cannot believe he is supposed be our #9 when his ability with his back to goal is as bad as I have seen from someone playing at this level.
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If LVG remains at the helm, I am pretty confident Rooney will be our captain and first choice #9. I even expect LVG to come to the first presser of the pre-season next year saying "Rooney says that he can score us 20 goals and my captain always plays".
Hopefully he goes home and does this next year.
I just don't understand why LVG doesn't instruct him to not come back and collect the ball in midfield areas. We have midfielders and we have Herrera, Rooney doesn't have to be the hero, the "playmaker" too. I hate it how it is portrayed in the media that when Rooney does that, it's because the midfield isn't providing with balls. Maybe if he stayed up front a little more, he'd received more goalscoring chances, like any normal striker would.
Annoys the hell out of me and its one of the main areas I feel is apart of this bad form. Basically not nailing down the fundamentals of the #9 position:
- Poor positioning due to trying to be involved with the play far too deep
- Inconsistent first touches, most of the time just shockingly bad.
- Agility and pace to get away from players and keep distance from them is very rare nowadays.
- A lack of instinct, thinks far too long on the ball slowing down any attack.
- Power.
Martial was born for that #9 position...sick of watching Rooney butcher it.
I have no idea who's quotes they are. But I know it's just my opinion.
If Rooney had a decent (not great) first touch and stayed up front more, that would make the team much better just like that and that is with his lack of pace and power. He's a very annoying player to watch playing football.
Lunatics who show some stats "proving" that he faster than Robben etc. He never was and certainly isn't now. We would have been better of with Hernandez.which people is that mate?
Rooney's continued inclusion in the first team and the media cover up of his poor form is bordering on suspicious now. In any other industry, we'd be asking questions about nepotism or corruption at this stage.
For sure, I was just pointing out Wayne's career trajectory. He ain't no middle of the road performer. He's surely earned the benefit of doubt.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/19/only-...olivier-giroud-in-last-three-seasons-5448619/
In this form for sure.
Wayne hasn't had a major injury since his ankle in 09/10 if memory serves me correctly and we know the story with Radamel. Considering that,is it far fetched to suggest that Wayne is going through he's worst run of form in a United jersey and that yes he has peaked but he's still a much better player than what we seeing.
edit: having done some research, I came across this.
http://www.the42.ie/rooney-out-three-weeks-731516-Dec2012/
It seemed innocuous enough at the time but maybe this is the straw the broke the camel's back.
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Well it must be true then.
And just like that he is shit enough to make his band of apologists disappear into the forest again, this guy has had too many false starts this season perhaps it's time we all admit that the "good times" aren't coming back ever again. The sad thing is last night he wasn't that poor, he was just ineffectual - a nonety in the match.
Rooney should be in peak form at this stage of his career.
Not only has his touch, passing and movement deserted him, but his on-field demeanor seems to suggest someone just doing a job. Just don't see the passion and hunger in his game.
Not only has his touch, passing and movement deserted him, but his on-field demeanor seems to suggest someone just doing a job. Just don't see the passion and hunger in his game.
I've read this week Herrera, Lingard praising his ability and leadership. A tactical breakdown in the 'van gaal tactics' thread also praised his controlling of 'the press'. Maybe as fans we are missing something?
That's a very interesting thought.
I wonder what the players really think about his form and his status? Someone like Schweinsteiger, player who just won the World fecking Cup and was playing for best team in the world is substituted at half time yet Rooney keeps starting games and leading our team while he is our worst player this season. How would anyone feel in his place? How would you feel if you have captain that's actually stopping you from playing decent football every single game and ruining your chances of winning games?
They must be pissed off, but they obviously can't say nothing about it.
Yes, those seem to be his outstanding qualities now. Leadership and good to be around. He has a worrying influence in the press as most of them do not want to see his decline.
It's just a pity he doesn't have a single outstanding quality anymore that is visible to the average viewer.
If I was a player in the dressing room and I'd see LvG making excuse after excuse for Rooney, I'd lose faith in the manager. Especially when we have clear evidence that Martial is a better #9, and Herrera is a better #10.
Probably. There is a reason we're just fans.
I think for a few years it a lot of fans didn't understand what Carrick did but fergie and pundits loved him.
Don't think its quite the same with Rooney.
Because on this board we are discussing about things, there is literally no point pretending that everything is good and Rooney will without any doubts be good in the future.
Funny how the fastest players in the world are almost entirely made up of the most famous players at the top clubs.
All I can sum up about Rooney is he is not the most technical player at the club, not the quickest, not the best passer, probably not the best finisher either. Continuous 4 or 5 out of 10 performances. Plus he physically looks like time is catching him up in his 14th top flight season. Obviously LvG loves him and speaking to the press and captaining the squad he seems very good but really does that warrant him playing week in week out?
No.
No.
You don't piss off one of the influential players so early in the season else you risk a revolt. We've seen that happening already with Moyes. You just smile and hope that there's still enough juice left in the player to get you through the season until you send him to Turkey in the summer.
Re his peak age, this is a player who burst onto the scene at the ridiculous age of 16, and has played a whole lot of football every season since.
I really do think it's just a case of his rise and fall having happened a few years before it does for most players.
So is Scholes basically saying that strikers just stand around waiting for the chances, while everyone else should work their butts off? You look at the best strikers and they work their socks off making runs to provide options for passes. Rooney used to, now he doesn't, as has been said he is that protected that he has lost the motivation.
I think that Van gaal is doing what he did with Van Persie and Falcao, he is exposing him as much as he can, so next season Rooney will have no ground to complain about being ditched.
Exactly, his decline has begun. Only way is down.
Cannot see this set of United players downing tools if LVG if decided to drop him.
I can understand Scholes POV. A lone striker's primary job is that of scoring goals, the rest is a bonus. If Rooney can't work his butts off anymore than he shouldn't do it and focus on his main job. Unfortunately, Rooney had never been a fox in the box or particularly creative either.
As far as I'm concerned, last night was his third United performance in a row where he actually looked like a professional footballer. That is all I can ask of him at the moment. Overall, the situation is that he is so obvioulsly not good enough to be here, and needed to be replaced a while back. I also don't like that Martial is now becoming a winger because of him. That said, it is what it is, and if he is to play, then the least I can ask is him not effectively playing in defence for the other team, which he has done on many occasions of late. Last night was not one of them, so I'll have to chalk it down as a 'good performance'.
He definitely isn't the fox in the box. RVN, Lineker were that. Wayne did a lot of his work outside the box. I can just see this getting very messy in the end.
I disagree. Rooney has a lot of influence on and off the pitch. He's been here since age 17 and is also Ingerlund's top star. Sub him and you'll have the class of 92, the media and probably the English contingent at United (most of whom are struggling to justify their role at United themselves) at LVG's throat
There is this one pensioneer who wouldn't give rat's ass what that mob thought and would have done something much worse to Rooney had he stayed on. If LVG is too scared of off-pitch factors to do the job then he should do the honourable thing and hand in his resignation because the club is leaching money, the team points and his team mates chances just to indulge him. In terms of the big picture this is an shit state of affairs and completely unacceptable.
So why does Rooney get 2 years worth of exposure and Falcao and RvP get one each? He was pretty awful last season too.
It will.
Its stressful being a manager these days. As SAF once said players were emotionally tougher in the past. It was also tougher to become a legend at a club and those who achieved such status, would have done anything not to spoil it. In matter of fact most legends retired long before they became a burden (ex Cantona) and those who didn't, moved to smaller clubs were their experience was of better use. I remember being shocked when Keane caused such a mayhem with that famous interview. While he did had a point in the team being weaker than it should be, it was evident that the biggest problem at the club was actually him. We had the only DM in the world who couldn't run any more. Nowadays its becoming common for players to overstay and those who are forced to leave tend to throw a fit. Not to forget how many players expect to remain involved within the club despite having zero experience in their new job whatsoever. Its strange because they all leave football as millionaires and therefore they shouldn't expect the club to nanny them for the rest of their life
I believe he's about to be benched. It would take balls to do that for the derby but LVG has them and if it's not this weekend then it will be happening shortly after.
He'll be benched, or subbed off at half time, and that will see a very rapid exit of Rooney from the club I think. We all know where he's going.
He'll be benched, or subbed off at half time, and that will see a very rapid exit of Rooney from the club I think. We all know where he's going.
Because, he has been at the club for 11 years and he will be a legend of the club, it's logical to have more time for him. Also Falcao wasn't our player and RVP was on the last year of his contract, it was easier to not keep them.
I guess you're referring to the one who kept a DM and a fullback in the team despite they couldn't run anymore. The only pensioneer who frustrated the most talented young CM in this generation because he insisted in playing two nearly 40 year olds, a fat guy from Brazil and one of the most average midfielders United had ever had.
SAF may never have shown bias to Rooney but he did showed bias to others. LVG is much more ruthless than an ageing SAF.
At this point I would play Lingard on the left, until Young comesback, and Martial upfront with Herrera and Mata completing the quartet.
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