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It's ridiculous watching Wayne Rooney shackled in centre midfield while at the same fecking time Di Maria is stuck up front!

It's actually this issue (or two issues, if you will) that are really annoying me about Van Gaal - much more than the formation, or selling players I like.

It's just sabotage. Rooney should be up front in some capacity running defences ragged with Di Maria running from within our own half with the ball.

Obviously Van Gaal knows way more about football than me, hell, most of the posters on here know more about football than me! But on this issue, he's wrong. Spectacularly wrong.

It's as if he does something controversial once and then is so stubborn and vain that he has to then stick with it until it produces some kind of positive result, so he can then say, "I told you so".

Conversely, if the controversial action goes well to start with he then sticks with it anyway cuz it's gone well!

So, basically, we've got a manager who makes lots of controversial decisions - and then sticks with them indefinitely!

This is how we've ended up playing a ridiculous formation, with our best striker (yeah, he is) in centre fecking midfield, our best creative midfielder (ADM) as a centre forward, our best centre midfielders (Herrera and Fellaini) either on the bench or in the box having long balls flung into them, with Phil Jones taking corners...

It's a mess. It really is.

I like Van Gaal, and I really want it to work out with him. But the guy is just getting more and more erratic with this shit.

It's like being managed by a fecking avant garde jazz musician or something.

Just wanted to say that I agree 100% with this post of yours ;)
 
It's ridiculous watching Wayne Rooney shackled in centre midfield while at the same fecking time Di Maria is stuck up front!

It's actually this issue (or two issues, if you will) that are really annoying me about Van Gaal - much more than the formation, or selling players I like.

It's just sabotage. Rooney should be up front in some capacity running defences ragged with Di Maria running from within our own half with the ball.

Obviously Van Gaal knows way more about football than me, hell, most of the posters on here know more about football than me! But on this issue, he's wrong. Spectacularly wrong.

It's as if he does something controversial once and then is so stubborn and vain that he has to then stick with it until it produces some kind of positive result, so he can then say, "I told you so".

Conversely, if the controversial action goes well to start with he then sticks with it anyway cuz it's gone well!

So, basically, we've got a manager who makes lots of controversial decisions - and then sticks with them indefinitely!

This is how we've ended up playing a ridiculous formation, with our best striker (yeah, he is) in centre fecking midfield, our best creative midfielder (ADM) as a centre forward, our best centre midfielders (Herrera and Fellaini) either on the bench or in the box having long balls flung into them, with Phil Jones taking corners...

It's a mess. It really is.

I like Van Gaal, and I really want it to work out with him. But the guy is just getting more and more erratic with this shit.

It's like being managed by a fecking avant garde jazz musician or something.

Honestly, sometimes I get the feeling LVG is pulling one huge prank on us all. Phil fecking Jones taking corners, Rooney in CM and ADM upfront :lol:
 
The best days I've seen of Rooney were in 09-10 when he tore Milan, Bayern and many English clubs all a new Arse hole. I don't know where that Wayne Rooney is anymore but he definitely isn't still around imo. This was the same Rooney who would shoot with his laces over the side of his foot.
The new Rooney (from 2013) onwards is a midfielder imo. I think he gets more pleasure being a playmaker, creating chances and scoring whenever he can. You can see it in every aspect of his persona. He's the leader, he's matured, he has a responsibility and he enforces that through attacking and defending. He's the best in our team in that role, maybe Di Maria can surpass him but not yet. So why move him upfront?

I genuinely loved seeing Wayne upfront but I think he is destined for midfield.

I fecking hope not.
 
The best days I've seen of Rooney were in 09-10 when he tore Milan, Bayern and many English clubs all a new Arse hole. I don't know where that Wayne Rooney is anymore but he definitely isn't still around imo. This was the same Rooney who would shoot with his laces over the side of his foot.
The new Rooney (from 2013) onwards is a midfielder imo. I think he gets more pleasure being a playmaker, creating chances and scoring whenever he can. You can see it in every aspect of his persona. He's the leader, he's matured, he has a responsibility and he enforces that through attacking and defending. He's the best in our team in that role, maybe Di Maria can surpass him but not yet. So why move him upfront?

I genuinely loved seeing Wayne upfront but I think he is destined for midfield.

I would say 08/09 was the last season he did that frequently. In 09/10, we saw a new Rooney who was brilliant and added that composure, consistency and clinical sidefooted finishing which was very nice to see. He took his game up a notch and thrived on the responsiblity without Tevez and Ronaldo. It was his best season IMO and I firmly believe we could have won the EPL (the Chelsea 2-1 loss) and made the CL final (the Bayern match :mad:) had it not been for Rooney's injury in the business end of the season. He was in a top 3 strikers in the world form at that period. He was excellent in the 11/12 season as well and some might argue, even better.

It's just a shame that after those 2 great seasons, he has a spectacularly crap international tournament and proceeds to have a disappointing season in which he wants to leave the club :lol:.

Anyway, he should be used as a striker, plain and simple. I don't get why LVG isn't impressed by him as a striker. He wasn't too impressive there at the start of the season but so was RVP who got chance after chance. At the very least he can play him as a second striker or an att mid whereby he can still contribute to the midfield with his physicality and industry by dropping deep. Has LVG gone in depth about why he's using him there?
 
Let him play as a striker and Di Maria will always find him just like he found Ronaldo a million times last season in Madrid.
 
why cant we fecking play him upfront, its getting criminal now. Use mata or di maria or januzaj as the 10.
 
Didn't really work out....Did it?! :D

Well, there were decidedly less long balls - at least it seemed so to me while watching - which is something that happens a lot with Rooney in midfield and half the time this just gifts the opposition possession, which against PL opposition is ridiculous and has cost us points this season.

In fact, we didn't look unbalanced, just blunt.

I actually think there was a lack of decent movement up front from Falcao and Wilson. It's all well and good repeating the 'feeding on scraps' mantra after pretty much every game (and I know that you lean in this direction, Rossi), but the two of them just had no hustle. And their pressing and harrying from the front is so weak.

But back on topic, I actually think as poor and dull as that game was it was still a step in the right direction to have midfielders in midfield!
 
Well, there were decidedly less long balls - at least it seemed so to me while watching - which is something that happens a lot with Rooney in midfield and half the time this just gifts the opposition possession, which against PL opposition is ridiculous and has cost us points this season.

In fact, we didn't look unbalanced, just idealess.

I actually think there was a lack of decent movement up front from Falcao and Wilson. It's all well and good repeating the 'feeding on scraps' mantra after pretty much every game (and I know that you lean in this direction, Rossi), but the two of them just had no hustle. And their pressing and harrying from the front so weak.

But back on topic, I actually think as poor and dull as that game was it was still a step in the right direction to have midfielders in midfield!


Sorry.....I've read what you wrote....It makes sense....

But, last night has yet to hit me....I'm still in the 88th min, thinking, "ah we'll score. Doesn't matter how shit we are"

Await my thread tomorrow when it hits me......Titled, "OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!"
 
Apparently we're useless without him
RvP and Falcao both got a chance each last night that were fairly easy for players of their standard (RvP's probably more so) and you just know that if Rooney got those, playing upfront, he'd probably have scored one.
 
Man Utd 3:1 Leicester
Miserable first half. Its not fair on the guy anymore. Regardless of others performance's today, you have to find a place for him up top. You can only get away with him in CM for so long. Find the best place for your captain Louis.
 
I've found it painful to watch him hanging around the center circle in this match. Misplaced passes, poor crosses, some light jogging. His free kick didn't clear the first man and his corners have been low/short. He does not look like a dangerous player.
 
Awful first half, got better in the second. Can we not play him as a midfielder, please?
 
Poor performance, nothing to do with the role. He's had poor performances up front too
What's that now, like 6 or 7 in a row? He was better in the 2nd half but it's clear that we would be better as a team if we played with proper midfielders instead of him in there. I'd much prefer him fighting it out with the other 2 up top.
 
Doesn't even seem to be playing as an advanced CM at the moment.

Would like to see him joining in with the attack more, but he's hanging back an awful lot. Which is a bit of a shame, when you consider that he's a threat to the oppositions goal from anywhere within 25 yards of it. Indeed, that his finishing is one of his biggest assets.

RvP and Falcao have been hit and miss this season, but have always been awarded the privilege of playing in their favoured position. Rooney rarely has. But then I guess the captaincy, and a near guaranteed start when he's fit, is a privilege in itself, and that's what LvG has given him.
 
We've got to stop playing him in midfield. He was terrible there today. He just doesn't have the close control or sure passing of a top centre mid.
 
I mean, ask RvP or Falcao to play in midfield for 7 games running, and let's see how well they do.
 
What's that now, like 6 or 7 in a row? He was better in the 2nd half but it's clear that we would be better as a team if we played with proper midfielders instead of him in there. I'd much prefer him fighting it out with the other 2 up top.

I'm not saying I disagree, but I can also see the merits in LVG's thinking using him there. Today Rooney didnt really do what he's shown he can do from the position earlier this season. As far as I can remember he only broke forward the one time where he won the ball and was then played behind the defence and he tried to chip it over to Falcao and it was the tiniest bit too heavy for him, but Falcao should have done better. Other than that I can't remember Rooney making a good run forward to try and affect the scoreline.

He was just happy to sit there and play over 100 passes, with plenty of them being very dodgy. He wasnt trying very hard to do anything other than that. So its not the role, it was his attitude. Today he played with the attitude of a holding midfielder
 
Miserable first half. Its not fair on the guy anymore. Regardless of others performance's today, you have to find a place for him up top. You can only get away with him in CM for so long. Find the best place for your captain Louis.
x100 this. Wayne is obviously trying his best to play in midfield, but he is just not a midfielder, and it is not his fault. Wayne is a 30+ goals a season striker and should be played to his strengths.
 
We've got to stop playing him in midfield. He was terrible there today. He just doesn't have the close control or sure passing of a top centre mid.

Definitely agree with that. I Think that one reason that we keep him there is to fit everyone in but also because aside from Carrick we don't have anyone in midfield with his range of passing (despite how inconsistant as it is.).
 
Predictable that he'd play as a midfielder when the squad was given out by Bates or whoever the feck did it on twitter. Idiotic to say the least with 2 midfielders sitting on the bench.
 
He's just such a wasteful midfielder; in fact he's a pretty average midfielder, but he's a top class striker. I believe we would have played much better with Herrera on the pitch today. Is Rooney generally better defensively than Herrera either? I have my doubts.
 
We've got to stop playing him in midfield. He was terrible there today. He just doesn't have the close control or sure passing of a top centre mid.

Agreed. Even his telegraphed pinged balls to Valencia seem to have gone to shit.

We do need a bit of physicality and work rate in the middle at times and Rooney provides that. We didn't need it that much in this game, without really much of a battle in the middle, with primarily the threat of counters to deal with. He should really just play up top in his best position in most games like this one.
 
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