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2014-15 Performances

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37
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14
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6
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He was average today, had some poor touches but his work rate always proves to be valuable, relative to RVP who can be really anonymous when he is having a bad game. Still managed to create a goal albeit it being marginally offside.

It is the same scenario though, you will have a few odd comments being overly critical of Rooney making him seem worse than he actually was and a few other comments trying to compensate for the anti-Rooney bias and trying to make him look better than he was for that match.
 
Orton said:
Nope, I'm saying he's been inconsistent recently.
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Still better than RVP and Falcao and can still snatch a goal or an assist in his worst performance, i do however agree with your point about RVP not playing in this winning team yet.
 
Removing him from the midfield and our build up has been one of the catalysts for our change of form.
 
Orton posts in this thread and the RvP thread should just be put on auto ignore. The bias is unreal in both cases. RvP has been woeful but the constant excuse is that he never played in a balanced team. Rooney has played half the season in CM and an unbalanced team and done far better. RvP should get nothing more than a bench role at this club till the end of his contract now. Even when Rooney is "rubbish", he's better than RvP the way we play.
 
Got to admit, slightly worried with his form.

Then again, knowing Wayne he'll score 6 in the final 6.
 
What is wrong with him? He is decent to good technically, not some pub level footballer. So why on earth does he have games at times where he loses every single ball and some of them even under no pressure at all?
 
Lets be honest, his workrate is amazing and he has his useful contributions even with an assist or goal at times.

But he has been the weakest link in our team for the past 5 matches.

I can see RVP easily outperforming Rooney in the current team.
 
Poor first half but good 2nd. We are undoubtedly a better team with him up top stretching defences, he could be doing better with his back to goal at the moment though
 
Great workrate today, chased everything down. To be fair City pressured him well and he didn't have much space against Kompany. I thought we didn't do enough to find him if I'm honest.

Beautiful assist when putting Mata through, solid performance overall.
 
He's been very average since the Spurs game, which is the type of performance that should be regarded as good/very good. To be content with his performance today is undermining his ability. He's capable of far more than those incredibly poor first touches we've witnessed since the Liverpool game, however, he displayed (today) two pieces of brilliance which demonstrate what he can offer - the free kick and the assist to Mata. Can you fault his effort? No way, but it's not enough. Luckily for him, and us, the team has gelled and is playing with absolute fluidity.

The question we should ask is how much better can we be with Rooney at his best? Frightening, if you ask me.
 
Disciplined performance by him which served us well. In matches like those when he's playing upfront he normally ditches being a forward and drops deep which leads to the opposition defence pushing up leading to more pressure on the mids. Instead he stuck it out despite how tough it was in there, especially with Kompany on.

In terms of on the ball he was on and off. It was really tough in there and at times he'd receive the ball with 3 around him, he's hardly going to win those. When he received it with a semblence of space I thought he did well. Some nice turns and flicks. Pretty much like how aguero was struggling to get any change from our backline when we got a firm grip on the game. The line leading striker relies a lot on service, and if the ball to him is a hail mary then its going to either stick or not.
 
Rezyuz said:
Lets be honest, his workrate is amazing and he has his useful contributions even with an assist or goal at times.

But he has been the weakest link in our team for the past 5 matches.

I can see RVP easily outperforming Rooney in the current team.
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The same RvP who doesn't bother running, who has no pace to stretch defenses, who wouldn't ever put the sort of pressure that lead to goals vs Newcaslte and Villa, who doesn't bother doing much defensive work and the same RvP who has looked way off the pace all season? Maybe a new striker could do a better job than Rooney but none of the other strikers at our club can do this role better than Rooney is doing. RvP of two years ago maybe, not this version who doesn't look fit beyond the 60th minute.
 
Thought he was effective today. Not brilliant by any means but pressured their defence and held up the ball decently well.

Move on to Chelsea.
 
It's the simple things he does, like running the channels to give full backs/wide midfielders a passing option when there's nothing else on, that make us actually work as a team.
Whether or not Rooney's at his best at the moment is irrelevant; neither Falcao nor RVP have done the things the team needs when given a chance this season.
 
He was fine today. Holding up the ball against Kompany and Demichelis is always a battle and they've gone in tight on him before. But he worked hard, showed good energy and had no sloppy lay-offs which normally creeps into his game when he isn't involved on the ball as much as he'd like.
 
Timdbro said:
It's the simple things he does, like running the channels to give full backs/wide midfielders a passing option when there's nothing else on, that make us actually work as a team.
Whether or not Rooney's at his best at the moment is irrelevant; neither Falcao nor RVP have done the things the team needs when given a chance this season.
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Was about to type out a post but this sums up my feelings well.

He's doing an unsung job at the moment and our other key players are getting the goals, assists and plaudits.

He'll want to be among the goals but the man is our captain now and we're playing great.
 
Really poor today, and the assist (which has put a gloss on a shoddy performance) should've been ruled out for offside, purely for Rooney's delayed pass. When he turned I thought he was once again looking for a switch to the right flank, he put Mata through when he realised that it was the only passing option. When Fellaini was clear at the end of the 1st half, he switched to Valencia from the same position. LvG needs to teach him to use both halves of the pitch, not just the right flank.
Besides that his hold-up play was off today, he kept losing tha ball under minimal pressure and Falcao showed him up on that front (I don't think he lost the ball once after he came on)- not a sentence I would ever expect to type.
 
There is absolutely no reason to think that Falcao wouldn't be able to perform to at least same level as Rooney did today, his couple of performances when he had match sharpness were better than last three Rooney's performances. Saying that, it means nothing when Rooney was poor in last three games, probably our weakest player, plus I don't see any reason to start Falcao anymore this season anyway. But still, saying that Rooney is the best at this role with this form isn't true, both Falcao and van Persie had better performances than this even while we were struggling with our play and formations.


wr8_utd said:
The same RvP who doesn't bother running, who has no pace to stretch defenses, who wouldn't ever put the sort of pressure that lead to goals vs Newcaslte and Villa, who doesn't bother doing much defensive work and the same RvP who has looked way off the pace all season? Maybe a new striker could do a better job than Rooney but none of the other strikers at our club can do this role better than Rooney is doing. RvP of two years ago maybe, not this version who doesn't look fit beyond the 60th minute.
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Your reasoning is wrong, the main reason why van Persie played so many games was exactly for those same reasons. He understands what van Gaal demands from his players and he understands his role in pretty much every formation we've played. Van Gaal talked about that many times, and that is the last reason why van Persie shouldn't play.
 
berbatrick said:
Really poor today, and the assist (which has put a gloss on a shoddy performance) should've been ruled out for offside, purely for Rooney's delayed pass. When he turned I thought he was once again looking for a switch to the right flank, he put Mata through when he realised that it was the only passing option. When Fellaini was clear at the end of the 1st half, he switched to Valencia from the same position. LvG needs to teach him to use both halves of the pitch, not just the right flank.

Besides that his hold-up play was off today, he kept losing tha ball under minimal pressure and Falcao showed him up on that front (I don't think he lost the ball once after he came on)- not a sentence I would ever expect to type.
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Amar__ said:
There is absolutely no reason to think that Falcao wouldn't be able to perform to at least same level as Rooney did today, his couple of performances when he had match sharpness were better than last three Rooney's performances.
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Absolutely laughable.

I almost hope Falcao starts a game up top on his own again just so you can see how idiotic what you're saying is.
 
We are better with him. Pretty obvious. The nit pickers can feck off after today.

And rooney is better then benzema for the record.
 
Love Wazza but he's been shite today, Villa and against Liverpool
 
Okay performance but I'd still have him as our main striker over the others. He's mobile and scores goals.
 
JUPITER said:
Absolutely laughable.

I almost hope Falcao starts a game up top on his own again just so you can see how idiotic what you're saying is.
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It's the same names over and over (as it is defending him, but then we're right, and they're wrong).

Saying he didn't play well is one thing. But it's just blatant revisionism to say Falcao - this version of Falcao - could do just as well.

He had numerous chances earlier in the season, and was by and large unconvincing, which is why he's been indefinitely relegated to the bench.

Don't like it, take it up with LvG.
 
Joga Bonito said:
He was average today, had some poor touches but his work rate always proves to be valuable, relative to RVP who can be really anonymous when he is having a bad game. Still managed to create a goal albeit it being marginally offside.

It is the same scenario though, you will have a few odd comments being overly critical of Rooney making him seem worse than he actually was and a few other comments trying to compensate for the anti-Rooney bias and trying to make him look better than he was for that match.
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Pretty much this. He wasn't great, but just because he wasn't great doesn't mean he was bad, and vice versa.

Rooney's movement and positioning caused Man. City's defenders problems, particularly with Fellaini overcoming Yaya Toure. Him dropping deep meant that there was space for Mata and Fellaini to run into, and him dropping deep allowed for lots of spaces to be created behind him, which Valencia exploited very well in the second half. In the second half, Mangala couldn't even contain him, and as a result, Rooney was causing quite a few problems for Man. City. His touches were inconsistent, and his hold-up play wasn't good, but I still think he put in a decent performance, individually, and a good performance for the team.
 
His pass to Valencia at one point to free him was brilliant. Fantastically weighted. Two 'average' games recently but he has a goal and an assist in them. Let's hope he actually plays well next weekend, eh? :angel:
 
JUPITER said:
Absolutely laughable.

I almost hope Falcao starts a game up top on his own again just so you can see how idiotic what you're saying is.
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What was laughable? Did Falcao lose the ball? Did Rooney not? Was it not unexpected? What part was laughable?
 
wr8_utd said:
Orton posts in this thread and the RvP thread should just be put on auto ignore. The bias is unreal in both cases. RvP has been woeful but the constant excuse is that he never played in a balanced team. Rooney has played half the season in CM and an unbalanced team and done far better. RvP should get nothing more than a bench role at this club till the end of his contract now. Even when Rooney is "rubbish", he's better than RvP the way we play.
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I don't think your posts on the matter are any more objective. Quite the opposite really.
 
berbatrick said:
What was laughable? Did Falcao lose the ball? Did Rooney not? Was it not unexpected? What part was laughable?
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Falcao did lose the ball, yes, more than once in 10 minutes for what it's worth.

To say Falcao could've done the job that Rooney did today (or did against Villa or Liverpool) is what's laughable, along with this quote...

berbatrick said:
Falcao showed him up on that front
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If you think Falcao 'showed up Rooney' in anyway at all today in his superfluous 10 minute cameo, I'd question either your sanity or your integrity.
 
Rezyuz said:
Lets be honest, his workrate is amazing and he has his useful contributions even with an assist or goal at times.

But he has been the weakest link in our team for the past 5 matches.

I can see RVP easily outperforming Rooney in the current team.
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No chance. Hes lazy. Rooney is valuable to our high pressing game. His movement in behind is so much better than rvps, creates space for others and gives defenders something to think about.

He did score a worldy last week as well, can't remember him having a shot today.
 
JUPITER said:
Falcao did lose the ball, yes, more than once in 10 minutes for what it's worth.

To say Falcao could've done the job that Rooney did today (or did against Villa or Liverpool) is what's laughable, along with this quote...

If you think Falcao 'showed up Rooney' in anyway at all today in his superfluous 10 minute cameo, I'd question either your sanity or your integrity.
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He showed him up in terms of keeping the football with defenders on your back - holdup play, part of a #9's job, an incredible important part which will be minutely looked at in case he doesn't score in a game, and an area in which Rooney was at his worst today.
I didn't see the Villa game but Rooney was equally terrible vs Liverpool.

EDIT: Falcao in this form was never going to score the goal Rooney scored vs Villa.
 
JUPITER said:
Falcao did lose the ball, yes, more than once in 10 minutes for what it's worth.

To say Falcao could've done the job that Rooney did today (or did against Villa or Liverpool) is what's laughable, along with this quote...



If you think Falcao 'showed up Rooney' in anyway at all today in his superfluous 10 minute cameo, I'd question either your sanity or your integrity.
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Oh, and http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/829741/Live

Rooney lost the ball 5 times to Falcao's 0. Whoscored - Insane and dishonest.
 
Still want more from him. I just think the main striker at a club of our size should threaten the goal far more. He does a lot of great work for the team, but I want him to scare centre halves shitless when he picks it up, and I want him having more purposeful efforts on goal every game. The sort of return Bent eke has had in recent weeks, our main striker should be capable of that sort of stuff.
 
I like how you both picked his post and ignored that it was an answer to JUPITER's: "Falcao lost the ball more than once today".
 
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