Speculating about Rooney being on his way out of Old Trafford.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Speculating about Rooney being on his way out of Old Trafford.
Stupid to not start Rooney but then his performance after coming on was not really inspiring.
I mean come on he was fresh and should lift the team up no matter what the situation.
Thats what doesn't make him the player we thought he would be.
Ps....Not a knee-jerk. Have always said this and we know it. He is a very good player but nowhere near the greats.
I mean come on he was fresh and should lift the team up no matter what the situation.
Thats what doesn't make him the player we thought he would be.
Ps....Not a knee-jerk. Have always said this and we know it. He is a very good player but nowhere near the greats.
Rooney: "Barcelona beat us playing football, Real Madrid won the theft."
supposedly
supposedly
I hope not, because it makes no grammatical sense.
It's also not fair to hold it against Real. If the boot was on the other foot, none of our players would be begging the ref to change his mind.
Yes he came on with 15 minutes left and needed a few minutes to settle in and we were playing with 10 men. Some of the shit that has been spouted on here after the game is just atrocious.
Why was it stupid? It was working until Nani was sent off wasn't it? 1-0 up at that point with Madrid posing very little threat to DDG's goal?
Rooney's got 7 in his last 8, Van Persie has 1 in 8.
The wrong striker was benched.
The wrong striker was benched.
Have to agree. RVP was poor tonight even before the red card.
Of current players in Europe, only Messi and Ronaldo have scored more Champions League knockout stage goals than Rooney.
The undermining of Rooney on this forum by our own fans is disgraceful.
I think its fair enough to bench him if Fergie has a reason to think he's not doing something right. He's got Welbeck and Kagawa breathing down his neck now, if he's not upto it he'll get dropped.
Lets face it Fergie got it spot on tonight but events conspired against us.
Lets face it Fergie got it spot on tonight but events conspired against us.
Correct decision to bench him IMO, I was hoping for it to be honest. Welbeck gave more in 10 minutes of this game than Rooney's entire performance in Madrid.
Hope it puts some fire under Rooney and kicks him on for the rest of the season.
Hope it puts some fire under Rooney and kicks him on for the rest of the season.
Especially when our shiny new striker suddenly gets all the plaudits even if he was pretty shit himself.
It's sad to see, especially since Rooney has mostly given his all week in and week out for how many years now?
But that's football fans for you. Just a few short weeks ago Welbeck wasn't good enough and didn't have a future in some fans eyes
He's becoming increasingly less important to the United side. It used to be if his name was not on the team sheet we might as well not bother, today it was clearly the right decision to leave him out.
I feel like if Rooney carries on like he is we'll lament over what might have been, but yet he's scoring goals more frequently and if there is no substance to any rumours he might leave he'll probably become our leading goal scorer.
Maybe we're being spoilt in this generation with players like Messi and Ronaldo, and strikers like RVP and Falcao, but I feel like the gap between Rooney and those other players is bigger now than it ever has been in the past 3 to 4 years.
I feel like if Rooney carries on like he is we'll lament over what might have been, but yet he's scoring goals more frequently and if there is no substance to any rumours he might leave he'll probably become our leading goal scorer.
Maybe we're being spoilt in this generation with players like Messi and Ronaldo, and strikers like RVP and Falcao, but I feel like the gap between Rooney and those other players is bigger now than it ever has been in the past 3 to 4 years.
If one of Rooney or RvP is to be "rested" for Sunday, I hope it's RvP. He's been in poor form whereas Rooney is scoring goals for us right now and ought to score.
Don't think his benching had too much of an effect overall. Van Persie didn't get much service and stuggled all game. Happens.
Interesting to see how he takes tonight's decision to drop him. I feel he's already giving up part of his game to suite the team (dropping deeper into midfield etc) and accommodate other players, to be left out of the biggest game of the season must be hard to take. Right or wrongly left out is for another debate, that's not my point im just commenting on Wayne's point of view, he must have been pissed off at being on the bench.
Fergie, got it spot on. Until that sending off united were the better side. No matter how much preparation any side puts in, nothing can prepare them for awful decisions. It killed us.
I agree though I'd say RVP really does do better holding up the ball and linking up as the forward with us (despite the recent goal drought), but I feel Rooney links up better with Hernandez who always scores against Chelsea and should play after a 2 week exile? For that reason I wouldn't mind seeing RVP out for a weekend.
In a game where we were set up to counter, RVP is better at holding up the play and Welbeck is better at running off the target man and protecting possession. It's as simple as that really.
Rooney was only ever going to get in ahead of either Giggs or Nani on the wings, and I think both of those two justified their selections in the end (unjust red card aside).
Rooney was only ever going to get in ahead of either Giggs or Nani on the wings, and I think both of those two justified their selections in the end (unjust red card aside).
I think he will leave in the summer. He just inst going to be played in big games in Europe unless he takes RVP place or he is stuck out on the wing. A player like Rooney will want to be playing in his preferred position at this stage of his career. Anyway playing him on the wing is a complete fudge at this stage. Its much better to have a proper winger out their or somebody with real mobility like Welbeck.
If thats the case Rooneys future must be in doubt.
We could moan about not starting Rooney if our attacking players didn't perform to their best. Gladly, they put on immense performances taken away from us by some unfortunate decisions. And for any player to come in and have an impact with 15 mins to go, down to ten men and a goal down, it is a monumental task. Sure it is to be expected of Wayne but he in my opinion isn't an impact sub, he is the sort of player that grows into a game.We had a couple of real good chances infact and we had them on the backfoot for the last ten minutes..Singling out a player for being responsible for not having an impact on the game in such circumstances is harsh. Judging a players' real ability or how good he really is based on today's performances will get you lot nowhere.
Real are a unique opponent who showed against Barca how good they are at countering. The only way to nullify that threat is to sit back and counter yourself. I don't think you can question Fergie's tactics as they played out on the day. Against most other teams, including the big European sides, Rooney would have started as the playmaker.
Some of the posters need a get a grip of themselves. He is equally as important to us as any other player in our team if not more. There is no way he is leaving just because he was benched against Madrid. Until the sending off, the team that was picked to start was justifying itself. And probably if we would have won, then this conversation wont even be happening. He will retire at United and will break all the current goal scoring records.
Bull, the wrong player was benched. Rooney should have played over Welbeck,. But, it did not matter in the game. The problem was the ref. Welbeck is on 2 in 33.
Fergie probably wanted players who could retain possession and dribble with the ball. Rooney usually fecks up simple passes. He even came on and gave the ball away stupidly on a few occassions. Starting Nani, Welbeck and RVP was the correct decision as these players are able to take their man on and retain possession better.
I thought it was a good move to bench Rooney. If they hadn't scored the second he'd have been the most lethal player to come on and make a big difference. If it had been RVP benched he wouldn't have the same impact as Rooney when he does come on.
Maybe should have brought him on earlier after the red though.
Maybe should have brought him on earlier after the red though.
Plus this, Rooney isn't the best under close pressure which is what Fergie would've known the game would be like initially.
Welbeck did much better in his role than Rooney would have done today. It can be argued that Rooney should have started over RvP but for the role he played there should be no question Welbeck was the right decision. Nani and Giggs both did better than what Rooney would have on the wings as well.
He should have been brought on sooner but once he was on I didn't think he did much anyway, he did bring more energy but his passing was sloppy and he didn't finish his one half chance.
He should have been brought on sooner but once he was on I didn't think he did much anyway, he did bring more energy but his passing was sloppy and he didn't finish his one half chance.
Really? I thought his first-time passing was class.
This must be a wind up?
I could be wrong I guess, I wasn't in a great frame of mind at the time but I remember him giving it away cheaply quite a few times. He had a few that stuck out at the very least.
Yeah he did misplace a few passes. Was frustrating to say the least.
Unbelievable. Welbeck was the best player on the pitch, by an absolute country mile too.
As for Rooney, he was piss poor once he came on, anyway.
This will pretty much go on and on now. Journos will keep pointing to Fergie dropping him for this game as a sign that Rooney is leaving.
We needed battlers, experience and I e cold finishers tonight.
Not confidence players like Rooney.
He was right to be benched.
We were strolling it until THAT feckING RED.
Like it or not, Rooney is a mentally fragile player, I don't think he was up to this game.
Not confidence players like Rooney.
He was right to be benched.
We were strolling it until THAT feckING RED.
Like it or not, Rooney is a mentally fragile player, I don't think he was up to this game.
Mentally fragile player who regularly scores in and performs in the biggest games? Ok then.
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