Good chance of that based on posting style of some of the new ones.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Good chance of that based on posting style of some of the new ones.
of course it is. fawning over the scouse scum.
these fella don't have integrity. have the bollocks to come on as themselves....
would any of us go on RAWK and pretend to be a scouser? It would be like being asked to eat shit. But they are used to it.
they thought they were going to win the title and were signing up left right and center...some obviously got in early under a United profile.
One by one I think it was Moses...got rid of em. They were all here gloating and rewriting their tumescent history.
EDIT: Obviously Moses needs to sus out those that did get in under a United profile and get rid them.
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Oh come on. That's biased crap.
Watch it again.
There's no way those two players are "equally responisble" for that goal.
that is too sensible an observation.
The lunacy has reached critical levels on here. I'll be the first to admit Rooney has his periods of bad form, but this place has me half convinced that he is a shit player.
No better than Van Persie? To me he's currently a pub-team player compared to RVP.
Obviously on his better days he's up there with the top European strikers.
Van Persie this season has been dreadful, Rooney on the other hand had a slightly better season than the last.No better than Van Persie? To me he's currently a pub-team player compared to RVP.
Obviously on his better days he's up there with the top European strikers.
Their overall performances over the last 4-5 years have been pretty much on par, i'd say.
I think to call Van Persie's performances this season 'dreadful', without mentioning a certain David Moyes and the injuries that played a role in his season is a tad dishonest.
Rooney was given free reign by Moyes and was still by and large, crap. Van Persie still finished with a pretty reasonable goal tally considering the amount of games missed.
Wow really why should I be embarrassed for him or ashamed. The guy has played 2 world cups injured and now out of position. The hate for Rooney is out of hand.
Who was better than just ok though other than Rooney? Sterling did well but end product wasn't great, Rooney laid the goal on a plate for Sturridge. Baines was poor Hart dodgy Gerrard pedestrian. It wasn't a great performance by any means. The stick Rooney getting is unjustified.
Rooney was completely invisible thats worst that just being outright bad. He had 4 moments: great cross to sturridge, Then the horrible corner, taking the ball off barkley and smashing it high and wide and getting kicked off a free kick from Gerrard that is all Rooney did in the entire match. Every attacker was better than him and far more involved, whilst the defence I agree were a joke, Rooney was the worst attacking player.
There is always something to add. Now you say "Rooney was given free reign by Moyes". But is it actually true? No. Because Rooney last season and this one played some of the matches as a makeshift CM. RVP on the other hand was not bothered by stuff like that and always played as a CF.
That's not true, Rooney created 3 chances for teammates, which is more than any other english player. He also had some dangerous shot off target apart from that one after Baines's pass. He did have a good game, but in terms of purely attacking threat not many english players if anyone at all did much more. Sturridge apart from goal only had just two shots both from outside the area. Sterling also had maybe 4-5 productive episodes the whole match. And so on.
What a stupid thing to say cause Rooney intentionally goes out there to not play well?....absolutely idiotic
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Don't see how anymore can downplay rooneys contribution to the goal, that was an inch perfect cross that strikers love
Absolute crap. He's not given himself the top billing. Not heard or read anything where he said he's the best player in England? Gerrard has said he's our best player and so have many players and managers who play and understand the game. So which superstar image is that? Do you think Sony and Nike, multi-billion pound companies pick crap players as figure-heads to sell their products. He's picked because he's one of the best players in the world.
Unfortunately in this country we struggle with that a little, everyone outside the country recognises it but we aren't happy unless we are waiting for someone to trip over, even our bloody own. I'll never understand that.....
Anyone who's earning a lot of money, we think they should be like robots and deliver on command. The last time I played football, there were 10 other players on the pitch, and I've just watched the current best player in the world struggle for the same reason.
Come on I'm talking about real moments in the match. The moments I mentioned are the only highlights in the game. Rooney wasn't bad but invisible. Every other attacker was more involved than him.
Nothing to do with that. Rooney is a top player with top player funds, status and ability, he should perform nothing to idiotic about it. If he isn't up to it then he shouldn't play.
Name me these supposedly major contribution other players did. I think you are being ridiculous. England had only two real chances to score and Rooney was involved in both. Then England had around 6-7 half-chances and Rooney was involved in like 2 or three of them. If he was invisible, how come he created more chances than any other player?
Whats how much someone gets paid got to do with it. Isn't that based on what someone else thinks your worth? Dont know what you do for a living, but if I paid you 300k a week, are you worth it? Can you deliver me 300k a week consistently. Do you always deliver to your potential cause (revelation), footballers are human beings. Doesn't matter your status as a player, some days are better than others irrespective of how much you pay someone.
I think also, teams have plans specifically for top players, they analyses ever aspect of their game in order to stop them. That's why some players have one good season and then disappear. Rooneys had that for season after season and still delivers.
Like I said, the last time I looked, there were 10 other players on the pitch, and I watched the current greatest footballer struggle in an average team, which is what England currently are. If they want to blame Rooney for all their failings, well more fool them.....
We seem to struggle with quality and never embrace it. We'd rather criticize our special players than build teams around them. Me and my son were laughing cause the ball Rooney played was world class, but the commentators only seem to talk about was a an absolute tap-in but described it as 'superb' WHAT? The so called miss, was Rooney's making, and people talk like he's missed it from under the posts......
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every time...what Rooney is paid has to come into it.
all these mini accountants who know feck all about how the club is run.
all these mini accountants who know feck all about how the club is run.
I hope you are not referring to me.
The same reason he gets lots of goals and assists he's a player of great ability and can show it in individual instances. Doesn't mean he wasn't poor for his standard. He was the worst attacker simple. Nothing controversial it's just what happened. That's not good enough for a player of his ability. We all watched the match no need to imagine a match Rooney didn't have.
It matters because he is benefitting from his status. He is paid to perform and has used his status many times to get what he is now earning. It 100% matters as it obviously means expectations will be higher.
Well he made demands to Fergie so he obviously has quite a high opinion of himself.
Whether he asked for it or not he's happy to take the pay check for having the superstar image and when there's a disparity between reputation, reward and performance its justified to expect more.
Im just continuously disappointed by how he's developed both on and off the field, guess in a bad supporter
I am not saying he was not poor, he was. I am saying that nobody was considerably better. There is no need to imagine that Sterling had a great game, or Sturridge had one or Welbeck, Barley. Because if they did, they would contribute more than Rooney, they would score, assist more. Sturridge did score and Sterling did pass it well to Rooney for the goal attack, but that was the only real contribution those players managed as well. Everything else is more of a wishful thinking.
You're just bitter. It happens to the best of us. Get over yourself and you'll be right. Rediscover what it feels like to be a fan again.
I really don't understand why he is being shunted on the left for Sturridge, what has Sturridge done for England, never mind Liverpool, to be the main striker. Nothing. Rooney has done a heck of a lot more, but for some reason people are not giving him the credit he deserves. It would have been 2 nil if he hadn't put in that cross for Sturridge.
Form is what matters in the World Cup, not your history. Over the past year and a half, Sturridge has earned the right to battle Rooney head to head for position.
Form matters if you're playing in your right position. Form doesn't matter if it completely unbalances the team. Rooney up top or in the hole is a staple at any part throughout his career and the team builds from there. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. You don't just say X has better form so lets throw him in there and move this guy to accommodate it.
It's silly.
He created a chance, but he is invisible in his position, and that alone is burdening england all nite, most of italy attacks comes from left side. Where the feck is he all nite long??
Contribution is not always about goals and assist, or pirlo was just as shit as rooney because all he does is play in a position and doesnt score
, the state of this thread at the moment.The main and best contribution of attacking player are assists and goals, it's different for defenders or deep CM of course.
Rooney was lacking in defense because he is a forward, not a midfielder. Holding players should have covered our left side. If you see how Real plays, they too have a forward at left wing and he does not work his way back, but they cope. Why? Cause the get formation right, Di Maria and Alonso provide cover in defense while Ronaldo is focused on attacking task.
Rooney was not good, but nobody was that night. You say he was invisible. Okay, then what Welbeck and Sterling did? Lets take Sterling who supposedly had a good game. Name me 4 truly impressive things he made that game. Only four. I'll give you one, the pass to Rooney for England's goal. You have just three more to name. But that has to be creating a real goal scoring chance. Cause that was his primary objective, to create goal scoring chances. So if Sterling, say dribbled past two players and then overhit his cross or could not find a man - that's not "impressive", that's just ordinary.
All he done and supposedly did is all in our mind, excuses, but, etc etc. But honestly, he has been disappointing bar 2004, and that's 10 years of not delivering.
Im just tired of defending him, he's just either cant deliver (on international stage), not arsed, or just simply injured or Anything else. Why cant he just show up for once
He was injured in every other world cup before this one, how can you expect him to. Plus he's nearly beaten the goal scoring record, a lot of those goals helped England qualify.
He's deployed as a left midfield. Whether that is woy stupidity or not is a different debate, but he neglected his main task, and playing like a rooney instead of a milner when he should do a milner first and foremost.
He wont be able to run away with that playing under the likes of van gaal, pep, or mourinho.
He is not selfless, that's a fecking myth, he just cant pull that shit and got away with it under saf.
Go and analyze him and him alone all match, watch his positioning. I bet he still think he's a forward and abandon that left side.
Assist and goals glose it, but england wont be in such pressure if he contains that gapping hole in the left by actually doing his part
Goal record? Is that special? He has played the most cap as striker, off course he's gonna score more.
Put rvp, rvn, ronaldo, messi, etc with the same years and they will finish ahead of him
Come on.. He'd not even gotten defensive yet. You can't cut down his ridiculous analysis as quick as that! Boring!
Defending him from what?
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