By paying £50m for Torres, they set the benchmark. Anything less than that for Rooney should be a no go.
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By paying £50m for Torres, they set the benchmark. Anything less than that for Rooney should be a no go.
Am I going to have to dredge a 582 page thread now, just to bring up a statement from someone concerning footballers contracts now, because you're being a cock?
no. it was not the thread he quotes. this was way back...some time ago. sorry cant remember now. Look. he clearly wants out. and if it is true he wants to be play ahead of RVP, he should prove that he can be as good or better in that position. It is up to a manager to use his players in any formation he wants.
You're the one who started being a cock mate. You dish it out more than anyone on the site but you're a right little bitch when you get it back
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/17/wayne-rooney-manchester-united-transfer-request
"Neither United nor Rooney are willing to declare publicly that he will leave. The club wishes to retain his highest transfer price, while Rooney does not wish to concede any bonuses or other monies by making a formal transfer request."
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...ld-to-hand-in-a-transfer-request-by-Liverpool
"It's understood that there are certain clauses in Suarez's contract preventing him from picking up loyalty bonuses - including his rights to a percentage of his sell-on fee - if he formally decides to leave."
"Neither United nor Rooney are willing to declare publicly that he will leave. The club wishes to retain his highest transfer price, while Rooney does not wish to concede any bonuses or other monies by making a formal transfer request."
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...ld-to-hand-in-a-transfer-request-by-Liverpool
"It's understood that there are certain clauses in Suarez's contract preventing him from picking up loyalty bonuses - including his rights to a percentage of his sell-on fee - if he formally decides to leave."
My stance has always been that both Ferguson and Rooney have been dishonest when referring to that conversation publicly.
That statement was a long time ago and clears up very little. If he wasn't wishing to leave, the situation would've been resolved well before the season started.
Do you think we bid for Fabregas because he was interested?
http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/50..._life_under_new_man_utd_boss_david_moyes.html
"I need to get fit and lose weight. I need to lose two more kilos to be at my best weight.
Guess someone needs to show those pics to anderson as he disagrees with you but am sure this is another case of someone getting an idea into his head and not letting go of it despite the evidence set before him.
The same mainstream journalists who spend the whole summer linking us with every player under the sun. Who created an entire transfer saga about us pursuing Thiago - repeatedly 'confirming' that we'd successfully signed him - only for the player himself to say that we were never in for him at all. Sports journalism is about selling papers/getting hits without having to worry about sourcing or accuracy because no-one cares enough to sue/complain. This is as true for 'Rooney's agent tells us that he dreams of Parisian boulangeries and wants to play for PSG' as it is for 'Schweinsteiger admits to secret longing to play alongside Ryan Giggs.'
Obviously it is also good for them to suggest that this stuff is real, rather than openly admitting that they just speculate wildly. Hence the 'Rooney's agent leaks to the press' stuff, which is no different from the 'sources high in the club administration tell us..' transfer bullshit
It's all bollocks. I'm inclined to go with the actual verified words of Moyes, who has said repeatedly that Rooney's attitude in training is excellent, and Rooney himself, whose only official statement said that he never actually asked to leave.
You dish it out more than anyone on the site but you're a right little bitch when you get it back
I'm not being a bitch at all. I haven't told you not to be a cock, have I?
Not sure how I started being a cock. I posted something that I know was posted on here recently, you responded with "that's not true". Good input.
Are you deliberately being contrary, Nev? I ask because it beggars belief that an intelligent poster like you can seriously give Wayne the benefit of the doubt. As I mentioned, we all know what the press is like but when members of that very same press state that Paul Stretford is asking them to publish pro-Rooney stories, are we supposed to ignore this & say "Fair play - Wayne's kept his silence"?
right. that makes sense. it is down to the money. that is why we would want at least close to 50 million before we sell. Look. I have been a huge Rooney backer. But he clearley has other ambitions. Get teh most for him and get players who want to play for our manager.
More resolved than Moyes saying that Rooney is committed and training well and United rejecting bids from Chelsea, and no-one else bothering to bid? The only people for whom the situation is not resolved are the media and their all-too-willing victims, the slavering fans.
When Graham Hunter said that he'd personally hooked United and Thiago up, only for Thiago to claim that we'd never been in for him, how was that different?
It's ALAN NIXON. He's full of shit, always has been.
I really don't think we need that marquee player, I know a lot of fans do though so it just depends how you view it.
Personally I am absolutely fine with the options up front without Rooney - Kagawa, Chich and Welbeck will all be getting more games this year if Rooney leaves and especially with the latter two they really need it to continue developing. So I wouldn't mind if he left really.
The signings should be midfielders and maybe a winger if Nani won't sign a new contract. Doesn't need to be a Modric or Fabregas either, so many midfielders would improve us right now. I'd love us to take a punt on McCarthy for one and then maybe a more seasons midfielder as well.
Way too much on here is based on nothing more than assumption. Which I have assumed....
Did they? Most I remember is transfer fee agreed although I normally use the caf as my source for transfers much easier. Ahun, agree with your latter point. They do sensationalize it for the casual person but that doesn't mean that there is no truth behind it. Like the old english saying, no smoke without fire. And rooney is no child either, even if you accept your point that the press is making all this up. Its hard to believe that he doesnt have the common sense to realize that his actions are going to be scrutinized in the first few weeks and not give the press anything to talk about.
We need 4 top strikers to get through a season and be in a position to win stuff. Wellbeck has certainly stepped up so far and if Hernandez can keep his progress from last season going and we keep Rooney we will be in a very nice position.
Ah, so you'll believe a statement from a player as long as it's not Rooney, right? When it's Rooney, you'll only believe it if it comes via the Daily Star: 'Rooney's agent told us he's crying himself to sleep every night, honest!'
"The sports lawyer Ian Lynam, from the Charles Russell practice, has observed through Twitter this week that by putting in a transfer request Rooney would not be jeopardising his wages or even any loyalty bonus due to him. Only any unpaid instalments of a signing-on fee would be lost if he leaves. The significance of transfer requests is overstated in the media."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ghts-footballers-once-fought-for-8721729.html
Sigh.
Ofcourse I do. Whats the point in entering into negotiation lasting for weeks without first determining from fabregas if he would move here or not. Am pretty sure you dont become one of the top clubs in the world with such poor management skills.Imagine us making him our top priority and then finding out he is not interested in a move, days before the window shuts. No top club is capable of that level of stupidity.
It's different because Hunter isn't one of the journalists concerned. By extension, should I now quote another Caf poster and ask you why you posted his words?
This saying pays every sports journo in the land's bills. In the case of the back pages, there absolutely is smoke without fire, and it's been proven again and again and again.
Well there was tons in the media about Thiago being chased but Thiago himself said we never tried to sign him
Honestly, if Torres went for 50 million, Rooney should go for more.
You seem to be suggesting that you think Rooney would allow the situation to be as it is, if he is sure he will be a United player, come the end of the window. I don't see why he would do that.
I was pleased with Rooney's contribution today. But anyone could see his heart is not in it. He may be the best English player in a generation, but if he does not want to play for us, go.
Hunter is just one example. That saga was in pretty much every sports paper in the country. Most of them, at one point or another, had us close to signing him (or, indeed, said it was done). And we were never even in for him, according to the player himself.
He can have Chelsea make up that negligible difference for him, he need only ask. Alternatively if it matters so much he can go without.
In the interim i see however i see no reason why we should provide Rooney game minutes to improve his sharpness for the benefit of another club, better to deprive him of pre-season/finding his league legs in August [he can do that on Jose's time or not at all for the time being].
Because everyone at the club - the people who actually matter - know what's what already, and this summer has already proven to him that trying to deny media rumours is a hopeless exercise?
Fair enough I think we do though as we didnt really have that fear factor and superstars in our attack until we sign rvp last year. Signing him gave us options of having two truely worldclass players who can destroy any team. Now dont know if kagawa is at that level yet(didnt watch him in germany) or if he will need time to develop into one. Hence for safety sake and for my inner muppet I would like us to sign either a worldclass player or someone with the potential to be one. Someone like a wing forward would be perfect along with the midfielder that we obviously need.
I'm often contrary, and I've no real love for Wayne Rooney. I don't need to love him, though. He just kicks a ball around.
I've no idea what Stretford is saying to the press, none of us do. All I know is so far, Rooney hasn't said anything, other than that he didn't ask to leave. The rest is conjecture and whatever you believe, to get to that belief you'll have to take the word of one party or another, neither of whoms word I'd take as oath.
How is it different? Everything you're going on comes from the same sports media who told us we were close to signing Thiago.
That's not credible. What is happening right now is hurting his image and therefore his marketability. His agent would not allow this to continue, unless they were still looking for a move.
good post mate. Think we will win the title if we strengthen in midfield. The only question mark would be do we have the quality to win the CL title....if we do not get a player the quality a 'Thiago' type offers.
Is that your way of saying you were wrong about anderson being extremely fit and the rest of us being paranoid rather than you wearing red tinted glasses? Has rooney said that he is happy at the club and has no intention to leave? Nope, all he did was refute a claim by Sir Alex regarding whether he asked for a transfer or not. You also are seemingly ignoring all the reports in media that these reports are coming from rooney's camp.You're moving the goalposts because you have no sensible argument; ironic, considering the senselessness you claim to detect in so-called "Rooney haters".
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