Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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You'll be ignored in this thread because you're audacious enough to talk sense.
We all know that some of the things SAF says should be taken with a pinch of salt and that substitution thing is one of them. It doesn't make sense. Take the West Ham away PL game, he subbed Rooney off then in his presser said that the reason he took Rooney off was because Kagawa was playing so well, but why did SAF then take Kagawa off 7 mins later if he was playing so well? It doesn't make sense. Added to the fact that Kagawa has only competed the full 90 mins for us 5 times and has been subbed off 18 times this season compared to Rooney who has completed 90 mins 20 times this season.
I also don't get why people are so insistent on convincing themselves that Rooney has spent the entire season lazily skulking half-arsed around the pitch. It's absolute fallacy thrown about by those who are desperately trying to convince themselves that he's shit and we don't need him, just incase he goes. It's fecking annoying because it doesn't represent reality at all. Why rewrite what actually happened this season? We all admit he hadn't has his best season by his own high standards but it has no way been an awful season at all. I can count the truly poor games on one hand. They were few and far between, they were the exception but people are choosing to make out that they were the rule. Rooney was the difference in a lot of games for us whether people want to admit it or whether they will continue to bury their heads in the sand and continue to dismiss everything good he's done because they're butt hurt. Won't change the facts though. This team is better with Rooney in it and I hope we keep him here.
Spot on.
Agreed. Moyes doesn't strike me as the type to pander to public opinion. Much like SAF in that respect.
I think they are both pretty similar but I reckon Rooney tends to score more of the Hernandez type poachy goals. Not that it really makes any difference either way as RvP and Rooney have goals great and small in their locker.
Exactly. He will want to keep Rooney. He wants to keep his job. To keep his job he needs to be successful.
But that goes for almost any player ever. No player puts away 100% of their chances. His conversion rate, I can only predict, is probably still remarkable.
I'm not sure about the conversion rate but no player has missed more clear cut chances in the PL than RvP according to Opta.
Really? That's surprising. Especially after watching Suarez hitting the post/bar and skying ckear chances earlier in the season. I really can't remember RvP missing anywhere near that amount.
Again, not every critic of Rooney has an agenda or bears tremendous ill-will towards him because of past behaviour. Now, I used to criticise Carrick - wrongly, as it turned out - because he wasn't the player I thought he might be...however, I didn't dream of criticising him because for lack of effort, because it was obvious to me that Michael was trying very hard to play his best football; in contrast, it's not obvious to me & other critics of Rooney that he's making sufficient effort (possibly because of disenchantment with - who knows? - SAF/life at United/whatever reason...). Plenty of United fans here doubtless agree with me on this, and not all of us have some bizarre fixation with old feuds and wanting Wayne to be sold - on the contrary, many of us want him to be back to his best, and for United at that.
Suarez shoots when it's obviously not on though. He takes shot after shot when its barely even a half-chance. I haven't seen the stat but I'd imagine it is just clear-cut chances, which RvP has missed a lot of.
Read back this thread and you'll see that is actually the case quite a lot of the time but I didn't say it was the same for everybody. This might sound sceptical but Im convinced the posters I'm on about don't want him back to his best, they want rid come what may.
If saf was still manager for next season then rooney would be a goner. However i cant see him leave now. Motes would want to win quickly and rooney suits his game
Rooney is now a cancer? I think they should put this in a commercial soon, spread the word and raise awareness
"They say...I...am...a...cancer..."
every timeRooney to miss Ferguson's final game as United manager... to meet new boss Moyes
The title the headline writer has given this bares no relation to Rooney's reason for missing the match. The article just restates that Rooney has been allowed to be with Colleen and will meet Moyes before the end of the month to discuss his future.
According to the Daily Mirror, Abramovich has told the United hierarchy to name their price for Rooney:
Wayne Blue-ney: Chelsea tell Manchester United to name their price for Rooney
Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk
The title the headline writer has given this bares no relation to Rooney's reason for missing the match. The article just restates that Rooney has been allowed to be with Colleen and will meet Moyes before the end of the month to discuss his future.
According to the Daily Mirror, Abramovich has told the United hierarchy to name their price for Rooney:
Wayne Blue-ney: Chelsea tell Manchester United to name their price for Rooney
Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk
I find this depressing...
Fergie has done so much to change this club and all some of you can think about is "ah well his problem is with Fergie so feck him, he'll stay under Moyes!"
Fergie knows whats best for this club...He would never come out and said about the transfer request if Rooney wasn't a goner
Fergie has done so much to change this club and all some of you can think about is "ah well his problem is with Fergie so feck him, he'll stay under Moyes!"
Fergie knows whats best for this club...He would never come out and said about the transfer request if Rooney wasn't a goner
Not as if he's done it before...
They don't need to give us a penny, just give us Mata and they're welcome to him.
Fergie has been biting his tongue, waiting for his chance to shaft Rooney and we all know it!!
He's never done this with any other player
I know, just wishful thinking.
'Wayne Blue-ney'?!? Jesus Christ, not even Crackers & I would stoop to such levels of pun terrorism...
Ah look can we just get rid so we can muppetize over his replacement???
We need some wank bank!!!!
We need some wank bank!!!!
Wayne Blue-eny? Pretty sure that's a porno.
£50 million and he's all yours Roman. We'll drive him to London too if you want, better still, we'll gift wrap him and stick a nice little bow on top for no extra charge.
To be fair my opinion of him as spoilt and immature could be applied to a large section of top flight players, they have been coddled and ridiculously over praised since childhood, told they are always right and incredibly over rewarded all for having well coordinated feet......we should count ourselves lucky they only shag hookers rather than killing them and wearing their skins they are so far removed from reality. As for el scuzzball, I've disliked him since before he came to united and never changed my mind. I find him a perfect example of everything wrong with footballers, an ugly, uneducated scouser, with a complete lack of personality or charisma yet he's living like royalty purely because he can kick a ball.....
If Roman really wants Rooney how much do you think he would pay? He spent £30m on Shevchenko and £50m on Torres who were both players that were forced into the team by Roman, If you take that as price guide then I think we could get over £40m for Rooney.
Anything over 30 and he's gone
Not to a domestic rival, I doubt it.
If we sell to a domestic rival its going to have to be a fair amount of money. There is no way we should be selling somebody as marketable and big named to a domestic rival for less than 35 million
I thinks its very poor form to call anybody a 'cancer'. Disgraceful actually.
Do you really think we'd sell Rooney to city or Chelsea - that would be a disaster
when did we ever sell a good player to a rival?
Tevez was out of contract and that came back to bite us
look how we blocked Heinze to Liverpool
I think Rooney will stay but if we do sell it will be to a European club
I think Rooney if intent on going will want to stay in England
we will either have a player who improves his attitude and sorts out his future with the club
or a player who runs down his contract and goes to a rival on a free getting a bumper pay deal
when did we ever sell a good player to a rival?
Tevez was out of contract and that came back to bite us
look how we blocked Heinze to Liverpool
I think Rooney will stay but if we do sell it will be to a European club
I think Rooney if intent on going will want to stay in England
we will either have a player who improves his attitude and sorts out his future with the club
or a player who runs down his contract and goes to a rival on a free getting a bumper pay deal
I really wouldn't even take 100m from Chelsea or City. Getting the money is great but like with Ronaldo, it's not like we're going to spend it and massively strengthening a title rival really isn't worth any amount of money they give us.
Now that's just stupid, you can do a lot with £100m.
This thread has brought out the worst in people.
Distasteful certainly
I can remember someone calling Fergie a cancer in the newbies once, it didn't end too well for him.
Interesting that you cite a lack of effort from Rooney. Sure, he hasn't always looked himself this season, but I've never looked at him and thought that he's not trying.
The best thing for the club will be for Moyes to get hold of Rooney and assure him that he's integral - he is a great player, and we'll be stronger with him being happy.
I think it's clear to see that Fergie has handled this Rooney situation in quite an incendiary fashion, knowing that it wasn't going to be his problem. A little bit naughty, but he was probably wanting to exact a bit of revenge for the contract palaver.
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