Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Devil's advocate and all, but if SAF did in fact want to get rid of Rooney, he's obviously going to deny it at this point of the season.
 
Can we put this to bed now then? Half of you are mental. Rooney didn't play a game. Oh.. My.. God... Not my little Rooney not playing.

At the end of the day - Fergie got it spot on. Again. I can't believe the papers jumped all over it and a lot of you did too.

If we *only* had Rooney that was any good up front and we dropped him for Macheda or something, then fair enough. But we have 4 strikers who bring different things to the table.
 
The tabloids have made fools of themselves, as is their way.

All those wish fulfilment stories without a single quote because a player was rested during what was an effort to win a treble.

Remember every journalist's name.
 
Good, now the media can fecking do one and stop shit stirring.Love it when Sir Alex is in this 'feck you' mood, while other managers might have been feeling sorry for themselves after Madrid Fergie attacks disappointment head on and will have the team chomping at the bit for the rest of the season now.
 
Sir A1ex said:
Quick, everybody grab the chance to attack MUST... look at the outrageous things so-called fan Duncan Drasdo has said:

"We always back Sir Alex Ferguson's judgment in the end and, if he did decide to let him go, then that's probably the right decision in the best interest of the club.

"It was such a big match for Ferguson – it could be his last season for all we know. I don't think he would have picked a side for any other reason than it was the best side that might get the best result.

"It's crazy to think that he would snub a player by not playing him in a match like that. In the cases of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Jaap Stam and David Beckham it was more difficult to see the tactical argument for dropping them but I think people could see it in this case. As supporters, though, I don't think many would like to see Rooney go."
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My God, the man is surely the devil incarnate?
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I misread the quote actually that annoyed me. don't have a problem with what he's said now I've bothered to read it properly!
 
There is no integrity in football reporting anymore especially newspapers. All they need is a possibility of something happening, add an anonymous source here, a fake quote there and you have yourself a story.
Rooney on the bench; He is going to be sold.
United need a midfielder; link them to xyz.
PSG are big spenders at the moment; link them to xyz
 
Usually I would say that just because he denies something doesn’t mean there is no truth. But that sounded very adamant. Giving his word that Rooney will still be here next season will do for me.

And I will be very pleased if that is the case.
 
Right, no more "ROONEY SHOULD GO" bollocks now.

Just comment on his performances during the next matches.
 
You have to take that at face value, but:

MirrorFootball ‏@MirrorFootball
Fergie 2 months before selling Beckham: 'It is totally out of the question. There is no way we would sell him, or any of our best players.'

MirrorFootball ‏@MirrorFootball
Fergie on selling Ronaldo to Real Madrid: 'Do you think I would get into a contract with that mob. No chance. I wouldn’t sell them a virus.'

:)
 
wr8_utd said:
Miguel Delaney :lol: :lol:
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As completely full of shit as that article is it did raise one interesting point which is one of the most frustrating things about Rooney......One one hand he is extremely profesional, playing out of position without a word if its for the good of the team, and as we have seen this week, taking a benching for tactical reasons like any good pro should and not whinging, yet he has come back from the summer out of shape....again, been seen smoking, drinking and ALLEGEDLY not been sticking to his training schedule whilst injured which is obviously anything BUT professional.

It does raise the question abut his longevity, Personally I dont see him doing a Scholes/Giggs, even his biggest fans couldnt claim he is a naturally athletic type and with a percieved lack of professionalism related to his conditioning do we A: Sell in a few years if we get the chance or B: Keep him until he retires, bearing in mind that as he ages he will become less vital to the team, and is unlikely to accept a wage cut.
 
Brophs said:
You have to take that at face value, but:

MirrorFootball ‏@MirrorFootball
Fergie 2 months before selling Beckham: 'It is totally out of the question. There is no way we would sell him, or any of our best players.'

MirrorFootball ‏@MirrorFootball
Fergie on selling Ronaldo to Real Madrid: 'Do you think I would get into a contract with that mob. No chance. I wouldn’t sell them a virus.'

:)
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:lol::lol::lol:

You couldnt help it could you :)
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
As completely full of shit as that article is it did raise one interesting point which is one of the most frustrating things about Rooney......One one hand he is extremely profesional, playing out of position without a word if its for the good of the team, and as we have seen this week, taking a benching for tactical reasons like any good pro should and not whinging, yet he has come back from the summer out of shape....again, been seen smoking, drinking and ALLEGEDLY not been sticking to his training schedule whilst injured which is obviously anything BUT professional.

It does raise the question abut his longevity, Personally I dont see him doing a Scholes/Giggs, even his biggest fans couldnt claim he is a naturally athletic type and with a percieved lack of professionalism related to his conditioning do we A: Sell in a few years if we get the chance or B: Keep him until he retires, bearing in mind that as he ages he will become less vital to the team, and is unlikely to accept a wage cut.
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Get him on Kolo Toure's wife's diet pills and he'll play til he's 50.
 
Brophs said:
You have to take that at face value, but:

MirrorFootball ‏@MirrorFootball
Fergie 2 months before selling Beckham: 'It is totally out of the question. There is no way we would sell him, or any of our best players.'

MirrorFootball ‏@MirrorFootball
Fergie on selling Ronaldo to Real Madrid: 'Do you think I would get into a contract with that mob. No chance. I wouldn’t sell them a virus.'

:)
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he goes by the name wayne rooney :devil: BELIEVE :devil:

ffs I hope SAF hasn't lost faith :nervous:
 
Does anyone else get annoyed at the way the "wouldn't sell that mob a virus" line is routinely dredged up. It seemed pretty clear at the time that he meant he wouldn't do business with Calderon. He properly fecking hated him, and why wouldn't he, the man's an absolute scumbag, even by Madrid standards.
 
Solius said:
Ferguson: 'Wayne Rooney will bé here next year. He understood exactly what we were doing (tactically v Real)"
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I just think that's complete bollocks, there is no way a guy with Rooney's confidence and profile would understand. He has to accept it but inside he will be thinking "I'm better than Welbeck." That's the mentality top footballers have.

I just think the manager is making assumptions on how Rooney feels, which is impossible. I'd pay more attention to what Owen said, he's of the same kind of mentality and he thinks it's a huge blow to Rooney.
 
Chabon said:
Does anyone else get annoyed at the way the "wouldn't sell that mob a virus" line is routinely dredged up. It seemed pretty clear at the time that he meant he wouldn't do business with Calderon. He properly fecking hated him, and why wouldn't he, the man's an absolute scumbag, even by Madrid standards.
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Not really. It's just a bit of harmless fun. You could find similar quotes from any manager you can think of.
 
MrMojo said:
I just think that's complete bollocks, there is no way a guy with Rooney's confidence and profile would understand. He has to accept it but inside he will be thinking "I'm better than Welbeck." That's the mentality top footballers have.

I just think the manager is making assumptions on how Rooney feels, which is impossible. I'd pay more attention to what Owen said, he's of the same kind of mentality and he thinks it's a huge blow to Rooney.
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Ok, if you/Owen say so. Why would I even want to believe what whiskeynose even says :rolleyes:
 
MDFC Manager said:
Ok, if you/Owen say so. Why would I even want to believe what whiskeynose even says :rolleyes:
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He's not saying that Rooney didn't say to Fergie he's fine and understands but what he's saying is that despite saying to Fergie he understands, he must be quite hurt. It would be wrong if he wasn't disappointed to be left out of the biggest game.
 
The crap being rehashed about Rooney allegedly not sticking to his training schedule whilst injured seems ridiculous considering that when he came back after the gashed leg we were all surprised that he was bang on form and looking much fitter straight away, from the first game he played in after that, and went on a good run thereafter iirc.

Gary Neville wrote this after Rooneys return from that injury:

Bizarrely, the horrific injury Wayne suffered five weeks ago against Fulham might have been a blessing in disguise. It allowed him to step off the roller-coaster and stopped people from judging him every three days on the basis of whether he was in the team or not. It allowed him to go back to pre-season training again, as his initial preparation before the season wouldn’t have been as intense as he would have liked because he had been playing in Euro 2012.
But over the past few weeks it looks to me as if the team of physios and sports scientists at United’s fitness department have beasted him in training.

Because when he started in the Capital One Cup against Newcastle 11 days ago, I saw a lean, fit, sharp player bristling with energy and aggression, like the street kid he once was. And he showed the same again when he came on against Tottenham last Saturday before those two great passes for Robin van Persie in the week against FC Cluj.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Neville-Rooney-mould-Robson-Adams-Keane.html

I'm not sure where that accusation has came from because surely this season he has returned back from injury in better form than others
 
MDFC Manager said:
Ok, if you/Owen say so. Why would I even want to believe what whiskeynose even says :rolleyes:
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I'm no fan of Owen, he's the footballing equivalent of benefit scrounger, but he is a big name centre forward and I'm more likely to go with his approach. That and common sense as well.
 
Enjoying seeing some of the guttersnipes getting a kicking on twitter. They have all the smug self-regard and moral bankruptcy of the normal tabloids, without any of the actual relevance.

That gobshite Miguel Delaney, for example, is insisting that he's merely being giving us information which it is "his duty to report". How noble of him, what a fecking hero.
 
I bet the papers will kick up the story again in the summer, they'll need a good old bit of tedium to get through to next season.
 
But we have Fergie's word! His word!

Rooney's too good of a player to just let him go. He'll be here for the remainder of his career (unless he fancies a season or two at Everton at the end).
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Rooney's too good of a player to just let him go. He'll be here for the remainder of his career (unless he fancies a season or two at Everton at the end).
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Either in the summer or early next season he'll sign an extension to 2018. He'll see that out and then return home for the rest of his career. I mean, it's possible he'll stay a little longer than that, but realistically I think he'll want to play for Everton again while he still has something to offer.
 
Chabon said:
Enjoying seeing some of the guttersnipes getting a kicking on twitter. They have all the smug self-regard and moral bankruptcy of the normal tabloids, without any of the actual relevance.

That gobshite Miguel Delaney, for example, is insisting that he's merely being giving us information which it is "his duty to report". How noble of him, what a fecking hero.
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He talks a load of crap really. All his "information" only comes after something major has happened. His story on RvP to United in the summer came only after Fergie announced it in a press conference, his story about United wanting to get rid off Rooney came only after he was dropped to the bench for this match. If he knew something, why didn't he report it earlier? He always talks a whole load of rubbish on Twitter.
 
MrMojo said:
I just think that's complete bollocks, there is no way a guy with Rooney's confidence and profile would understand. He has to accept it but inside he will be thinking "I'm better than Welbeck." That's the mentality top footballers have.

I just think the manager is making assumptions on how Rooney feels, which is impossible. I'd pay more attention to what Owen said, he's of the same kind of mentality and he thinks it's a huge blow to Rooney.
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I'd be amazed if Rooney did not understand the reasoning. FFS do you not think Ferguson explains his thinking for various games?

You say the manager is making assumptions on how Rooney feels, which is impossible. Yet you do exactly the same. I tend to have more faith in what Ferguson says about it when he's the one who works with Rooney and you and the little shit Owen, frankly, don't have a clue.
 
Solius said:
Fergie: "The Wayne Rooney nonsense first? Or do you want to talk sense?" Rooney will be here next season "you have my word"
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I wonder which tabloid will be the first to try:

Ferguson planned to offload Rooney - but after the press got hold of the news, Ferguson backtracker on his original plan :)
 
Has any footballer in the history of the universe ever handed in a transfer request because he was dropped to the bench for 1 game?

This entire issue is complete nonsense and anyone who think there is any weight to it should jump off a very tall building as soon as possible.
 
Chabon said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...k-future-Manchester-Uniteds-Wayne-Rooney.html

The press in this country really are ridiculously abusive of the nation's only genuinely world class footballer. I've been saying it for years, he should tell England to get fecked.
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That paper is a shambles so don't even let it irritate you. Apparently their journos are one of the two banned by SAF today. It was only last week they launched a campaign to keep Bale in the PL as they don't want good British talent going abroad, now fast forward a week and they're asking "is it time for Rooney to consider a move away beyond, perhaps, the Premier League?" They can piss off!

Rooney is expected to be England's sole saviour despite having to play with a much lower calibre of player than he does for us. After Rooney poor Jack will get the exact same weight of expectation that he will never be able to fulfil unless something major changes in the selection and tactics.
 
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