Wan-Bissaka for sale | joins West Ham

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No surprise we haven't been smart enough to find a deal to move him along.

The actual surprise is that somehow, despite showing next to nothing for months, that Dalot has moved to the indisputable right back choice.
 
No surprise we haven't been smart enough to find a deal to move him along.

The actual surprise is that somehow, despite showing next to nothing for months, that Dalot has moved to the indisputable right back choice.
I can see a distinct improvement with Dalot. He shouldn’t be first choice if we want to win anything but for right now, with priorities elsewhere in the transfer market…I’d back him to keep improving. ETH sees something there…some of his touches and running with the ball is good. He is clearly fit, tenacious. If he can improve his concentration and follow “the rules” I think we will be speaking about him differently by the end of the season.
 
I think you might be overrating Brandon Williams a bit. If we were to sell Wan-Bissaka and then Dalot gets a serious injury and is out for 6 months, we'd be stuck playing a very poor player every week.
This would also be the case if we didn’t sell Wan Bissaka
 
All summer to move him on and bring in another right back but here we are stuck with AWB for another season which will no doubt deteriorate his value even further
 
How does his value go from 50m to 10m in 3 years?
1 in 804 RB my ass. Has the person recommede AWB got sacked yet?
They are all still at the club and seem to very much rate him. Why they are dragging their feet on the sale. He was reportedly discarded by ETH as early as first week of the season so can't say it's too late to find a replacement. I noticed the club are especially deluded about he and Henderson. This time next summer we will be cursing management for once again being reactive. Ditch him already, coaching has about as much chance of redeeming him as it has to turn De Gea into an elite sweeper keeper.
 
Maybe we're keeping him for the games against Chelsea, specifically to put him on Sterling again.
 
Probably one of the worst signings we have ever made, in truth.

High fee, very little potential to improve, non performances, non trier. Just awful.
 
This would also be the case if we didn’t sell Wan Bissaka
Well yeah I agree that Wan-Bissaka isn't very good. I just think he's better than Brandon Williams.

I doubt we could bring in a player better than Wan Bissaka for the rumored 10mil that clubs are offering. Not this late in the window at least.
 
Well yeah I agree that Wan-Bissaka isn't very good. I just think he's better than Brandon Williams.

I doubt we could bring in a player better than Wan Bissaka for the rumored 10mil that clubs are offering. Not this late in the window at least.
True. For 10m we may as well keep him, at least Ten Hag knows he isn’t a starter which was my main concern.
 
No surprise we haven't been smart enough to find a deal to move him along.

The actual surprise is that somehow, despite showing next to nothing for months, that Dalot has moved to the indisputable right back choice.
Too harsh man. Last two games Dalot was really good. If some shiny new rb played those games like that, people would sing songs about him.
Vs Pool he was against Diaz and Robertson and played perfect game (defence wise).
Vs saints he was solid and made an assist.
 
Hopefully ETH can mold AWB into a player useful for his system. Surely players must be able to adapt and learn given clesr direction and good training.
 
Bring him on to close out a game or if our right flank is getting tea bagged late into a game.

He's not a starter. Should only be used from the bench.
 
Hopefully ETH can mold AWB into a player useful for his system. Surely players must be able to adapt and learn given clesr direction and good training.
You can't teach a player in his 20s to be fluid with the ball. It's like holding out hope on Chris Smalling becoming a comfortable ball player.
 

Might just be Sky trying to keep United fans interested in Deadline Day, but thought I'd post it regardless.
 
If the offer is fine then do it, the proposed one from Palace was a pisstake. He’s a good player and would probably do well under Moyes.
 
Hopefully ETH can mold AWB into a player useful for his system. Surely players must be able to adapt and learn given clesr direction and good training.
He's barely got a sniff and we're 4 games in. There is no indication that ETH rates him.
 
The 50 million fee was obviously ludicrous but it's not as if hes an abomination of a defender who has no worth whatsoever. Stick him in at West Ham, Everton, Villa and he'd be a good player and worth 15-20 million.
 
He's no better than Coufal. Probably worse. So not sure why there's an idea he'd be good there.

I think he'd be best at a lower table club where there is not much aspiration other than to win tackles and survive the division. West Ham are trying to go places, quite clearly.
 
If the offer is fine then do it, the proposed one from Palace was a pisstake. He’s a good player and would probably do well under Moyes.

We’ll need to bring someone in then as got no cover for Dalot unless there is a recall option in Laird’s loan deal with QPR?
 
The 50 million fee was obviously ludicrous but it's not as if hes an abomination of a defender who has no worth whatsoever. Stick him in at West Ham, Everton, Villa and he'd be a good player and worth 15-20 million.
yeah teams trying to take him for free pretty much it seems. Def worth a 10-15 million for one of the mid to lower teams who just want defense from RBs (even though only his 1v1 tackling is decent and rest is nothing special)
 
We’ll need to bring someone in then as got no cover for Dalot unless there is a recall option in Laird’s loan deal with QPR?
Thats why i would love to see a loan with a buy option for someone like dest. For europa games and teams we will be on the front foot more dest would do well i would think. And if not we just bring Laird back next season
 
yeah teams trying to take him for free pretty much it seems. Def worth a 10-15 million for one of the mid to lower teams who just want defense from RBs (even though only his 1v1 tackling is decent and rest is nothing special)

Neco Williams went for like 18m, so I assume AWB is worth more than that.
 
Would Dest be an upgrade over AWB?

I'm not opposed to replacing AWB but we should get a lot more than the mooted 10m. He'll still be useful to one of several PL clubs. It's not like he's a terrible defender.
 
AWB isn't remotely good enough to challenge Dalot. I don't know if Dest will be good enough, but he has the advantage of being 3 years younger at least. So Dest for AWB would be a good move.
 
Hope he does well if he stays. Dalot is himself bang bloody average.
 
Who else have we got should Dalot get injured? Ultimately, AWB does not have the attacking skills ETH is going to require for a fullback, but until we get an upgrade on Dalot, AWB is good cover and rotation.
 
Neco Williams went for like 18m, so I assume AWB is worth more than that.

Not really. AWB has more minutes played but Neco showed a lot in limited appearances for Liverpool and has been impressing internationally for Wales. If you factor in his age and the progress he has already made there is good reason to believe he is ascending and could gain in value over the next couple of years. AWB has stagnated for 3 years and offered no evidence that he can develop. He is a very limited player who has one stand out attribute, the last ditch tackle, and there is nothing to suggest at this stage that he is going to suddenly develop into a complete player. He is a serviceable defender for a team that expects to play on the back foot and without the ball for most of the time and those kind of players are genuinely available at under 10M not to mention the types of clubs that need them are generally shopping on a strict budget.
 
yeah teams trying to take him for free pretty much it seems. Def worth a 10-15 million for one of the mid to lower teams who just want defense from RBs (even though only his 1v1 tackling is decent and rest is nothing special)

Can you imagine him coming up against us, with Sancho/rashford? I can see him shutting our left sides players down
 
120 million on Maguire and this guy but Ole was building something special.
 
Probably one of the worst signings we have ever made, in truth.

High fee, very little potential to improve, non performances, non trier. Just awful.
Jesus hes not that bad. Yes he has his limitations and not the type of player you want in a possession based system, but I'd back him to defend against 90% of the wingers in the league. People are really under-rating him because it's not exactly worked out.
 
How does his value go from 50m to 10m in 3 years?
1 in 804 RB my ass. Has the person recommede AWB got sacked yet?
Just cos we scouted 804 right backs doesn’t mean he was first in the list.

He might have been 400th
 
Too harsh man. Last two games Dalot was really good. If some shiny new rb played those games like that, people would sing songs about him.
Vs Pool he was against Diaz and Robertson and played perfect game (defence wise).
Vs saints he was solid and made an assist.
Disagree. He’s one of the worst RBs in the league defensively. He’s a horrendous 1v1 defender, doesn’t close down opponents quick enough, gambles too often and is frequently out of position. He’s not especially pacey either. There’s a reason Elanga was picked at RW and spent a lot of time helping on Diaz and Robertson. I think Diaz had an off day, but also, Thiago and Fabinho, if in from the start, would have caused a lot of problems with their passing on the left.

Offensively, he can pass the ball and reliably pinch in when needed. He’s a better crosser of the ball than AWB (which isn’t saying much) and his decision making has improved. Very happy he has improved offensively, but from a defensive standpoint, he has a very long way to go, and frankly, may not have the physical attributes to become an even mediocre defender.
 
No surprise we haven't been smart enough to find a deal to move him along.

The actual surprise is that somehow, despite showing next to nothing for months, that Dalot has moved to the indisputable right back choice.
There’s apparently been multiple clubs in for him but mostly loan deals and we don’t have a RB lined up, or it hasn’t been a priority this window, hence the reason he’s still here. I think if a much better RB was available we’d have made it happen but we’d probably be spending a lot and we’ve already blown our budget.
 
AWB isn't remotely good enough to challenge Dalot. I don't know if Dest will be good enough, but he has the advantage of being 3 years younger at least. So Dest for AWB would be a good move.
Dest offers so much more going forward than either Dalot or AWB. Suspect defensively and in my opinion, much better in a back 3. ‘Course, Dalot is awful defensively as well, so maybe it’s a wash?
 
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