He's not easily the best centre half in the league at all.
Virgil van Dijk | Performances
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He's not easily the best centre half in the league at all.
Absolute boss is Virgil, whenever we get a corner now i don't panic or expect the worst, he dominates everyone in the air. Love him. Best CB in the league no question.
(saying that, not worth 75mil, no defender should be worth that much)
(saying that, not worth 75mil, no defender should be worth that much)
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Yeah, there is a question, this isn't the first time you've made posts like this. Are you here intentionally to try goading people?
Yep, just love it when people state opinions as fact.
Of course it's an opinion, if someone says Messi is the best player in the world, no question, is that goading (CR7 fans) people? Loosen your knickers mate.
Whilst we're at it, who's a better CB then VVD in the league right now? Genuine question.
IMO he's the best in the league right now, and in lots of other clubs fans eyes too (before we signed him).
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That is hype and doesn't matter, but is the reason you are so confident in your claim. It doesn't make it true tho. As we know, you guys tend to overrate your own players performances. I still remember my old liverpool buddy claiming Babel was the next big thing while Ronaldo was obviously shit. Im actually a fan of VVD because he can be exiting to watch, but I've given up on his defensive deficiencies. He will always make more mistakes than a defender such as Smalling or Alderweireld. So i can't take any "best CB" claim serious, which is fine, he is good enough for you, but I know you guys will never admit that, now that he's yours.
Personally I would never swap Bailly for him, younger and better in 1 on 1 defensive situations than anyone in the league, hence a better defender than VVD. Azpilicueta is the best defender in the premier league though.
I'm not even sure he's the best 1 on 1 defender in the club.
Whenever any of our players are asked about it they always say Smalling is the best.
Most fans overrate their players, remember Shaw/Rafael/Januzaj/Jones all set to be world-class and Lukaku being as good as Kane or Rashford as Mbappé? I'm sure there have been a lot more examples in recent times too.
Can't deny that but i wouldn't say Babel was that good to begin with. These are young exiting players you use as examples, they sometimes fade away. Most Liverpool fans seem to always think their whole team and players is better than United, which since United usually has been the best in England, puts them above other teams to. Which is probably why you now see these sorts of claims. Smalling is the only one from United making his mark this season in a good United team, but he is not rated by fans of other clubs, therefor our defence is shit and voila, VVD is better than Vertonghen and all the others.
He's fantastic in the air (probably the best in the league at that) but his positioning and decsion making are poor.
There's multiple defenders in the league that are better than him.
There's multiple defenders in the league that are better than him.
I thought he was brilliant for Southampton and I still think hes brilliant now.
Smalling is a bloody good defender, he's just severely underrated because his on-the-ball is relatively poor.
The overhyping is ridiculous.
Bases on the last three seasons Vertonghen and Alderweireld are both superior CBs than VVD and both better on the Ball.
Come back to me when VVD pings 60 yard passes onto an attackers heads to make assists like Alderweireld does.
However, VVD is a very good CB and has made a big difference to Liverpool. Just, he isn't by far the best CB in the league. He's not even the best. Come back to it after at least 18 months to 2 years of top class PL performances at the top end of the table before making those claims and doing a disservice to CBs who have been the best in their positions for three years now.
Bases on the last three seasons Vertonghen and Alderweireld are both superior CBs than VVD and both better on the Ball.
Come back to me when VVD pings 60 yard passes onto an attackers heads to make assists like Alderweireld does.
However, VVD is a very good CB and has made a big difference to Liverpool. Just, he isn't by far the best CB in the league. He's not even the best. Come back to it after at least 18 months to 2 years of top class PL performances at the top end of the table before making those claims and doing a disservice to CBs who have been the best in their positions for three years now.
Couldn't care less if he is, or isn't, the best CB in the league. All I know is that he's made a massive difference to our defence. End of the day he'll be judged on what he achieves over his career at Liverpool & not if he's better or worse than other defenders. We Liverpool fans are more than happy to have him at our club. Hopefully next season we can start on something of a level playing field with the other top clubs when it comes to solid defensive displays.
So what are you saying, he jumps really well, but no where near the ball/danger?
Think you’re missing in my opinion for my comment buddy. As I think he’s easily the best in the league right now and will get better again. Funny enough I think Maguire is up there as well.
Ditto. All I know is he's really fecking good. Judging by his interviews and demeanour on the pitch - he has a completely unfazed mentality too, which is probably my favourite thing.
Exceptional post
It's easier to say who isn't
Lindelöf?
C'mon pal, i only get 3 posts in this forum per day, why you killing me with questioning a question
How lazy is this lad? Playing the entire West Brom attack onside on the second ball of that set-piece and he just strolls out with his arm aloft seeking offside. This isn't an isolated incident either. Accusations of laziness have dogged him throughout his time in British football.
He is a dopey faced twat tbf.
Terrible post.
He's a tall lovren.
At times he’s a bit... sleepy?
Will solve Liverpool's defensive problems apparently. Need a better CB to partner VVD, a better right back and a better GK.
One player can't fix a defence, you need quality in every position.
Liverpool's defense has been better since he joined. I doubt they would only concede 1 over 180 against if they started Lovren with Klavan.
If you’re talking about the City game, City had goals disallowed and van Dijk was at fault for the goal Liverpool did concede anyway. I do agree that he has improved them, that’s what you get when you pay £75 million though.
Well least you're finally admitting Van Dijk is quality, breakthrough for breakout67 woo!
I love how much people clutch at straws in this forum, just shows how good the guy is really when people are making this much effort to attempt to put him down No, not at all.
Wrong. I have always maintained VVD is a good centre back. Simply not at the elite level. That is why I made the comparison to Smalling in the first place. Good centre back but nothing more since he's fully developed.
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Think he was poor today.
Didn't help that none save Karius and VVD have played any first team football for a good while, let alone played together, but he should have kept his own level better.
I mostly blame Moreno though Pulled the midfield out of shape time and time again because they had to cover for him. Will be glorious when he and mignolet fecks off
Didn't help that none save Karius and VVD have played any first team football for a good while, let alone played together, but he should have kept his own level better.
I mostly blame Moreno though Pulled the midfield out of shape time and time again because they had to cover for him. Will be glorious when he and mignolet fecks off
Wow the Liverpool fans sure seem defensive about him.