Virgil van Dijk | OFFICIAL: Liverpool agree £75m fee (£70m upfront) with Southampton

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By that logic, Liverpool could also say that they spent £8m on Coutinho and we spent £89m on Pogba and they spent £40m on Salah and we spent £80m on Lukaku.

Van Dijk is a ball playing CB and Bailly and Jones are not. They spent wisely and addressed their issues which we haven't. For three seasons now, we should have addressed the LB issue and we haven't. Let's give our competitors some credit when they deserve it instead of criticizing them. We could learn a thing or two and this could be a wake up call for Mourinho and Woodward.
So you're saying all of our spending hasn't been wise. Should we give them credit while criticizing everything about United transfers?
 
If he'd signed for city we'd have been complaining about them buying all the best players and pep being a shit manager with no skills other than an unlimited budget.
Now that he's signing for liverpool we don't rate him?
Klopp, Conte and Guardiola seem to rate him
Say what you like but he's clearly a big improvement on what they've got.
They've spent less than £30m net under klopp before this and will raise over £100m for the coutinho sale(another player plenty on here say is just "decent") and another 40-50m from clearing out sturridge,ojo,henderson and a couple of others.
Keita in next summer and De Vrij on a free.
Klopp the clown will have totally overhauled their team for pennies. They could probably afford to splash £80m on lemar.
Hearing worrying rumours about goretzka now.
 
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This is crazy, absolutely insane.
Coutinho has to be gone, this is 140m on 2 players in the upcoming 5 months.
 
Don't care about the fee. This obsession with high transfer fees is getting boring IMO. If they can afford it and if it improves them, it's money well spent.

Hopefully we can make some moves in January as well. This whole "January market is tough" lark combined with only considering players who can contribute in Europe doesn't quite cut it for me.
 
I say this all the time but scouting by the top clubs is on the whole terrible.

He moved two years ago for £13 million and was hardly a big secret. Plenty rated him then.
 
Their weaknesses are down to tactics and organisation. He's a very very good defender and I think people will realise that soon enough.

I don't think they'll be a force because of him.

Edit: he promised VVD captaincy in the summer as well. I'm amazed they've bewitched him. He could play for better clubs.

Completely agree.

I don’t know why some of us are so hyped about this, our defensive frailties are a by product of our style of play.

I don’t believe Skrtel, Sakho, Lovren are all bad defenders. Our style of play means our defence is under more pressure than usual. Buying VVD won’t help, VVD is just a bandage over the wound. A £70million pound bandage.

Still I guess it should help a little. A Matip-VVD combo sounds good
 
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14/15: Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren & Rickie Lambert
15/16: Nathaniel Clyne
16/17: Sadio Mané
17/18: Virgin van Dijk

They're well and truly Liverpool's feeder club. 6 players in four seasons.

Barring Lambert and Lovren that's some seriously good talent we bought in. Not Suarez or Coutinho level but good nonetheless. Hopefully VvD is one of those too.
 
Still funny to think that they could have saved themselves 15m if only they'd behaved themselves last summer.
 
This sort of fee is just going to push the market even higher.

All the clubs are gonna say “Liverpool jus the signed a CB for 75m, our winger/midfielders must be worth More!”
 
The fee is crazy but we got Matip on a free so £75m for our two starting CB's is good business in today's market. I'm pretty sure we'll be in for De Vrij on a free in the summer as well so suddenly we'll have a decent set of centre halves.
Concerned about whether the fee will affect him and I'm not expecting him to fix all our problems immediately as it will take him time to get back up to match fitness as well as learning Klopps requirements. I guess what I'm saying is that next year is our year ;)
 
75m for a defender! My God football is ruined. Are you watching Glazers? Jose just said it yesterday!
 
I don't see why people are going crazy. Let's wait and see how much they charge for Coutinho first.
 
The fee is crazy but we got Matip on a free so £75m for our two starting CB's is good business in today's market. I'm pretty sure we'll be in for De Vrij on a free in the summer as well so suddenly we'll have a decent set of centre halves.
Concerned about whether the fee will affect him and I'm not expecting him to fix all our problems immediately as it will take him time to get back up to match fitness as well as learning Klopps requirements. I guess what I'm saying is that next year is our year ;)

Next year is only 5 days away. :drool:
 
Football's gone mad. What makes that price even worse is that they could've got him for 60 million in the summer. Now he has to perform at abnormal level to justify that price, because defenders don't win you stuff in the way attackers do. Pogba deal is slowly starting to become a bargain.
 
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I've never seen a transfer fee justified by aggregating it with players that have nothing to do with the transfer.
The mental gymnastics to even think of that is mightily impressive.
 
If Jose mentions it it will be his excuse.
Agree. But at least he is being honest about it. He said before Pogba fee will easy be bypassed and yesterday he mentioned that 300m is not enough and his message was clear. And today we are seeing this a defender worth 75m oh wow.
 
Their issues arent necessarily defenders but how they are setup. That's on Klopp.

As usual, the caf is overreacting. Reminds me of the whole Bernardo Silva debacle. Some people are obsessed with 'winning transfer windows'
I swear half the posters on here actually prefer a big signing to a trophy.
 
As a Saints supporter, I am somewhat ambivalent about all this. I guess that it is my general ambivalence towards football and the PL in particular that is driving my ambivalence towards this transfer. For players may come and players may go, but clubs go on forever (sorry for the butchering of Alfred Lord Tennyson's words!).

The things that I find depressing are:

1) The player and his agent have behaved like complete tools. And the footballing world just thinks that this sort of behaviour is OK and that there is nothing wrong with it. I guess that at least he kept his mouth shut after the last window closed. I would have been happier if SFC had turned around and said he was acting like a twat, and put him on gardening leave like any other company would have. But no, he is an asset and we can't possibly harm that. feck our principles.
2) LFC's behaviour in the summer (and leading up to it) was well out of order. If only they had gone about it the right way, they could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and probably £25-30m. The arrogance involved was somewhat unappealing.
3) The ridiculous sums of money that are involved.

It is point 3 that is killing my interest in football. I have been going to Saints since the mid 1970s and now I can hardly muster the enthusiasm of going. Football has no redeeming features about it and I am half tempted to go and support my local non-league club. Maybe it is an age thing, but I feel that me and football have travelled a diverging path for too long and we are now out of sight of each other.

Anyway. Good luck to the lad, and it looks like Liverpool are BUYING themselves a good team.

Money, money, money. Its killed the game for me, and yes, Saints are part of it even if a long way behind the big boys.

Interesting post. I'm quite a bit younger than you, but have the same feelings. In a matter of not many years, £100,000,000 will be the going rate for a decent player (we're virtually there really) with the elite attracting a fanciful figure well beyond that. It's really grotesque, and socially irresponsible, for what is just one sport amongst many.

I do wonder what will break the market, assuming anything does. Perhaps just so many obscene transfers that it becomes embarrassing and collapses under its own avarice. I used to go and watch a local team years back, when I happened to live round the corner from them. About £3 entry on match-day, and a main stand that held maybe 300. I didn't even pay attention to what division they're in, so have just checked - Bostik League, South Division. Stark contrast with the big boys of course, but I couldn't have enjoyed going more.
 
Getting business done quickly, he's a very good CB and they need that, the price is silly but that's the market nowadays and he could be a difference maker in them getting a CL spot.
 
Barring Lambert and Lovren that's some seriously good talent we bought in. Not Suarez or Coutinho level but good nonetheless. Hopefully VvD is one of those too.
For sure. The injuries to Lallana and Clyne ended up being a good thing in a weird way as Coutinho has excelled in that role while the kids have done alright at RB too.

I get the feeling though your defensive problems are more to do with the way Klopp works tactically (just like I have reservations about Mourinho from an attacking coaching point of view). Whether VvD fixes those problems or ends up being a sticking plaster like @DreamIsh said, we'll see.

Also, you really need to replace Mignolet.

Can he play in the CL?
Yes.
 
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