I'm the same and I can't shake it. He obviously put outsanding numbers last season and seems to continue (especially in the CL because in la liga, we've seen players like Sarabia having comparable performance sheets and he's obviously not a top player) but I just can't see him as an elite player and feel his good spell could end at any time. It's just a feeling though, there's no tangible explanation. The WC will be a good start since he's been pretty disapointing with his NT so far, then the big test will be how he fares in a different sytstem without Benzema.
He's undoubtedly a top top player? He's as good of a ball carrier/dribbler with his pace and ability as anyone in the world. He's been producing elite productivity the past year as well. His pace is matched by very very few around. Defensively he is excellent with his work rate, pressing, etc.Im not questioning his talent in relation to his age. I simply wouldnt call him a top top player just yet. Give it two more seasons.
Comparable to last season? No, that never happened. Sarabia's best was his last spell at Sevilla with 12/5 (G/A). Vinicius had 17/10 last season and looking equally dangerous this season too.
Not to mention I have never seen three guys man marking the former.
In terms of opportunities for ethnic minorities and their general treatment you mean?
Im not questioning his talent in relation to his age. I simply wouldnt call him a top top player just yet. Give it two more seasons.
Sarabia's last season with Sevlla was 13 (or 12 depending on sources)/13, I thought it was a bit closer but it's not that far off.
I think given that he’s a significant and contributing factor in the Real Madrid attack, and has been for a couple of seasons, that it’s a stretch to not see him as a top player.
He is a top player as currently he's one of the best in his position in a team that just won their league and champions league with him being a very important part of our attack. It's the same with Haaland people were having doubts about him while he was at Dortmund but it was pretty clear his forma and goals weren't an accident or simply luck, he didn't become a top player the moment he signed for City as he was already that good.
The comparison with Haaland doesn't make any sense, it's 2 very different situations. Those who doubted Haaland did probably because of the league he was playing in (despite him having comparable results in the CL), he was dominant pretty much anywhere he went for 3 seasons. Vinicius was just an improved headless chicken until last season. What's strange with Vinicius is that he became very good almost overnight so the future will tell if he really improved drasticaly or if he was overperforming (even if the eye test obviously shows he got better, the question is how much better).
I love Vini, he is absolutely top class and I think him and Neymar will be a strong why Brazil wins the WC in Qatar
Do they work well together? I haven't watched Brazil for years but presumably Neymar will play down the middle either as AM or CF right?
Not working amazing so far (even if it was pretty interesting during the game against Ghana) but it could be lethal if Vicinius make the right runs. Neymar plays pretty freely but mostly on the left behind Vinicius in a left wing/midfielder mix.
It's a fairly new starting XI for Brazil since Vinicius was far from beeing a guaranteed starter until the start of 2022. I think it was the 6th game he started for them, the 3rd with Neymar in the team.
So he's sort of no.10 but in a free role and goes deep and wide?
Do they work well together? I haven't watched Brazil for years but presumably Neymar will play down the middle either as AM or CF right?
i saw the match v Ghana and they were amazing together - had telepathic understanding of each other’s movement and the ability to deliver the correct ball effortlessly
i saw the match v Ghana and they were amazing together - had telepathic understanding of each other’s movement and the ability to deliver the correct ball effortlessly
All the talk is of Mbappe and Haaland as the future superstars but this guy is up there too.
Says the PSG super fan.He's not. It's probably his 1st very good game with Brazil in a total debacle. He was nothing special in the group stage when he had the chance to carry the team without Neymar (and is mostly underwelming with Brazil).
He's also just "good" with Real Madrid in La liga this season (which is often the case when Benzema isn't playing). He's a very good player, but not "up there".
Says the PSG super fan.
No offense intended
He’s only 22 by the way. By 25 I think he will be up there. His dribbling is sensational.I can give you the name of many players outside of PSG that are "up there", but if one player is for Real Madrid it would be Benzema, or Modric (even if he's getting older). Vinicius is a very good team player, his composure got much better in the past 2 seasons but he's a level below up there.
He’s only 22 by the way. By 25 I think he will be up there. His dribbling is sensational.
Valverde say hi?I can give you the name of many players outside of PSG that are "up there", but if one player is for Real Madrid it would be Benzema, or Modric (even if he's getting older). Vinicius is a very good team player, his composure got much better in the past 2 seasons but he's a level below up there.
Valverde say hi?
According to toni kroos, valverde is in top 3 players in europe.
Klopp looked genuinely puzzled that the journalist could ask a question like that.Fantastic by Klopp, albeit completely mental we’re still in this day and age having to highlight and admire such responses
