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Viktor Gyökeres - Sporting Striker
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) review both the Everton and Bodø/Glimt victories at Old Trafford. Listen to the guys discuss 2 wins and 7 goals in the last week, analyse of the Amorim formation, focus on Amad and how he is playing, and also take a look at Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee – who starts v Arsenal?
That you Erik?
He makes a lot of his own luck via the runs he makes. He also breaks with such power that he demands balls be played into his running lanes.
I would come up with a witty response to type but I have too many injured fingers for that
At Coventry his movement wasn't really that refined. He was a striker who had the ability to score while dropping deep to play on the turn and run at people. Very rare in that league, where dribbling is hard enough without having to do it while playing in the middle and also being the main goalscorer. That's why I flagged him then. His goalscoring in Portugal was belittled in his first season too. He's been a player for a while.
We have to buy him. This is an opportunity that can’t be missed.
Hopefully he helps Sporting retain the league title and then leaves in the summer in a blaze of glory.
They can't lose him in January.
They can't lose him in January.
Did someone say he has a release clause of about 50m? That's not far off a Haaland type bargain as on present form he should be 80m +.
Sweden have some forward line now of Kuluveski-Elanga-Isak-Gyokeres. Need to be qualifying for tournaments again with that.
Sweden have some forward line now of Kuluveski-Elanga-Isak-Gyokeres. Need to be qualifying for tournaments again with that.
He’s seemingly a late bloomer who has honed his craft away from the spotlight and now has a very problematic game to contend with. He’s got a really clear certainty of purpose and pre-empts and executes without a pause for thought.
Didn’t get to see his aerial game at all, but everything else seemed to be on display and he passed the eye test for me with flying colours. A lot to like in his game and it looks like it’s all clicked for him at the right time.
Gyokeres usually is a no nonsense finisher, but he had to try to be cheeky and fail that first try... But after that, he was himself and once again made a difference.
No. His clause is 100m. It was never 50m.
tell us more.
I think after tonight it’s gone up to €140m, United missed out on Kane however in reality is buy out is actually €100m(£85m) however this has to be paid in one instalment.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1969105/ruben-amorim-viktor-gyokeres-man-utd/amp
All the BS that sporting will let him go for £58-65m is just that, he’s clearly going to score 40-50 goals again this season so he’ll be £85m upfront or £100m in 3 instalments, I think United will definitely miss out on the player unless they get this done early and pay his buy out clause before anyone else does as he’s going to have multiple clubs interested this summer.
His relationship with the coach is the only thing for us to hang out hates on here and the fact that United will probably offer him £250-300k per week as he fits the player who merits that salary.
Fair enough and much more accurate for what he's producing on weekly basis.
Totally agree, I don’t care if we get rid of Zirkzee, Antony and a young striker like Joe Huigill. We should get £50m for those 3 and just pay the other £35m to get him here asap.
He's a 26 year old Primeira Liga player, I don't think he's going for £100m.
These are the signings we have missed out on for years. It’s so obvious.
Of course he can.
I’m with you 100% on this my brother huge Coventry fan and saw a lot of him live, and said then that he was far too good for championship. We have to look at him and Diomende.
Yep last year 43 goals and 15 assists from 50 matches.
This year 23 Goals 4 assists from 16
His European record at Sporting in last two seasons 14 Matches 10 Goals 3 assists
So he’s scored 66 goals and 19 assists in his 66 matches, he basically scores or assists every 0.77 games
However he’s not worth €100m?
He passed the eye test tonight and looks an all round better striker than Haaland, his touch, movement and his power, both could have had more goals but Haaland offer only goals not assists and average build up play. Gyokeres is the spearhead of the system, Hojlund is similar but his first touch needs a lot of work?
Thought it was around 100m Euro so roughly 84 million quid.
If Haaland doesn't score, he isn't bringing much to the team, while Gyokeres offers a lot more in other areas if he isn't scoring.
But to be fair to Haaland, if you provide him with service, he is probably one of the best finishers inside the box that you will ever see.
You've got it the wrong way around, he has 85GA in 66 Games (if your initial numbers are correct)
Which means he scores or assists every 1.29 games
Too soon for this gotcha attempt, my friend. Way too soon.
You should've bookmarked my post for the time when Gyökeres had got his big move to a top team and Hojlund had actually played at least 1 full season in a good, organized, and efficient tactical setup. But when that time comes your opinion will have changed too.
Yeah he could have really let that affect him but instead it spurred him on to put it right and boy he did that. Who do people think is a better fit out of him and Sesko just out of interest?
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Well, Haaland has already 50 assists so far in his short career so you're wrong about that.
Not this season. Maybe the next he can be ours.
Paying around ~50-60m I reckon.
Paying around ~50-60m I reckon.
Yeah shades of Mahrez in being a late bloomer into potential world class player. It happens sometimes
He’s far better than Sesko at the moment.
You are making us second guess our math and English comprehension skills.You've got it the wrong way around, he has 85GA in 66 Games (if your initial numbers are correct)
Which means he scores or assists every 1.29 games
85 Goal contributions/66 matches = 1.29 goal contributions per game
66 matches/85 goal contributions = 0.77 matches per goal contribution.
I think scoring or assisting every 0.77 matches is the correct statement.
Great game, not just the goals but also won and controlled a lot of long ball and City really struggled with his runs.
If he scores and assists once per 1,29, he should have more games than goal contributions (he doesn’t). Scoring or assisting once per 0,77 is better than doing so once per 1,29… it should be obvious but apparently it’s not. I’m guessing it’s because usually people say goals per game, so the higher number seems intrinsically better?You've got it the wrong way around, he has 85GA in 66 Games (if your initial numbers are correct)
Which means he scores or assists every 1.29 games
Not sure if he is worth 100M, when we have Hojlund. Can possibly struggle against low blocks.
Maybe sell Rashford and Zirkzee, and get Ollie Watkins.
Maybe sell Rashford and Zirkzee, and get Ollie Watkins.
I have heard a lot about him and hype train is going to go into overdrive if he keeps this up, but actually intently focusing on him for a full game, especially one against City, who were leading, and in which he badly flubbed his first chance, was really eye-opening. He showed his constitution and mental fortitude as well as intelligence, physical prowess and finally, his ability. Everything looked on point; a proper striker in an era with very few about.
If he is like that all of the time - and it sounds like he is - he’ll have his pick of clubs when the time comes to make a decision, and rightfully so.
The biggest “concern” I might have is whether his body can handle the power of his running for a prolonged period of time, like over 3+yrs of thundering about as he does. Such powerful runners are often plagued by muscle strains and their joints experience considerable duress; in the long term, is he a player who will be effective if that thunderous running is taken away; is he smart and cute enough to play within himself and preserve his body so he doesn’t have to thunder about to be effective? Ideally, you want that powerful running as a bonus rather than a reliance, but I am talking perfect world stuff here, and as I said previously, he may have the genetics to withstand the powerful running for years yet anyway.
Next part of the eye test would be to watch him in really staid, suffocating games where he doesn’t have the opportunity to stretch his legs in footraces - can he find space and read play well enough to outright outfox quality CB’s? If yes, he becomes a no-brainer for me because that’s even rarer than looking good in open space where you are able to play the game you want as opposed to the one you’re being forced to.
But so far, so good. Definitely worth every bit of the praise he’s getting from the tiny sample size I’ve seen.
Yeah this is a no brainer, we have to get this lad
Think you may need to check your mathsYou've got it the wrong way around, he has 85GA in 66 Games (if your initial numbers are correct)
Which means he scores or assists every 1.29 games
Then thats probably at least 75% of our summer budget gone, maybe even more and we haven't brought in a central midfielder, nor a wingback. Not sure how smart that really is. We can't bring in players only because they seem to be "good". At least not in the state we are currently in. We have to be smart. We spent fortunes on Centrebacks lately and we brought in a young striker for 70 million 2 years ago.
I wish am wrong. But back to the same point we discussed in the summer, we needed goals, Hojlund scored 7 goals before joining us. Viktor would have provided more goals than Hojlund.
A 26 year old striker having 3+ years thundering about with similar numbers to what he’s putting up is more than fine. You guys get too bogged down in this long term lark. Football is played seasonal. Treat it that way.
To be fair, they haven’t had the money to sign anyone for the last decade.