Victor Osimhen

Silas said:
For people that have watched him regularly, how is he technically? I agree that goalscoring prowess is the main factor, but I’m personally tired of strikers with limitations (or players in general), because they eventually bite us in the ass. When/if the goals go, there’s nothing left. We need ballers.
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I'd describe him as a bit of a bully style player. He has a very long stride which helps him nick the ball away from people and he often flicks the ball in midair to run into with his long legs. He's very powerful, not a silky and skillful player but he can make the ball stick and then turn and run at the defence.

If he gets the ball in the channels his speed and strength are very impressive which leads to most of his goals. Not sure who I would compare him too.
 
Dannn411 said:
We will hopefully bring in Money from sales of Antony, Sancho and Rashford. In addition to the massive wage savings from all 3 leaving plus letting Lindelof and Eriksen contracts expire. In that scenario, there is going to be enough available.
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Delap won't be cheap though, gone are the days when relegated teams get desperate for money. There will be competition too, Pool, Arsenal and even Chelsea will be looking for a striker.

Plus we have need a LAM, CM, LWB/RWB, LCB and GK before a second striker option.
 
Tosicsleftpeg said:
I'd describe him as a bit of a bully style player. He has a very long stride which helps him nick the ball away from people and he often flicks the ball in midair to run into with his long legs. He's very powerful, not a silky and skillful player but he can make the ball stick and then turn and run at the defence.

If he gets the ball in the channels his speed and strength are very impressive which leads to most of his goals. Not sure who I would compare him too.
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He's a unique archetype indeed. Doesn't look elegant and has kinda awkward dribbling but gets the job done.
 
Xeque_279 said:
Delap won't be cheap though, gone are the days when relegated teams get desperate for money. There will be competition too, Pool, Arsenal and even Chelsea will be looking for a striker.

Plus we have need a LAM, CM, LWB/RWB, LCB and GK before a second striker option.
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You're right but as far as i'm concerned, absolute priorities are 2 CMs, 2 RWBs and 2 STs. The rest we can push down the line. We can get good midfielders and good RWBs for very decent money which will leave the bulk of the spending on the strikers. I dont expect us to go over €120m combined for both. €60m each is reasonable for Osimhen and Delap. City's clause for Delap is £40m. Nobody will go over £50m for him. Osimhen is out of favour at Napoli. Nobody is paying over €60m for him.

Let's say we have €200m to play with, that leaves €80m for RWBs and CMs, which I think is doable. Plus we may yet still sell others outside Antony, Sancho and Rashford which will bring in more money. Casemiro, Malacia, Mount, Zirkzee come to mind.
 
Dannn411 said:
You're right but as far as i'm concerned, absolute priorities are 2 CMs, 2 RWBs and 2 STs. The rest we can push down the line. We can get good midfielders and good RWBs for very decent money which will leave the bulk of the spending on the strikers. I dont expect us to go over €120m combined for both. €60m each is reasonable for Osimhen and Delap. City's clause for Delap is £40m. Nobody will go over £50m for him. Osimhen is out of favour at Napoli. Nobody is paying over €60m for him.

Let's say we have €200m to play with, that leaves €80m for RWBs and CMs, which I think is doable. Plus we may yet still sell others outside Antony, Sancho and Rashford which will bring in more money. Casemiro, Malacia, Mount, Zirkzee come to mind.
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The City clause for Delap though is irrelevant. That's a specific contractual agreement that was made at the time, so City could (now) sign him back for a bargain. Any other club and they'll be asking for a lot more.
 
The reason I like Osimhen is that it will simplify our game rather than make it complicated.

Basically every player in our first XI should whip it in the box for Osimhen to head it in or poach.

Nothing else.

Some people would say this is a bad thing, but I think in our current problems, we need to have a strong plan A rather than a versatile forward with more complex skill set because this leads to more complicated decisions for the rest of the team.

Bruno - Cross it for Osimhen
Amad - Cross it for Osimhen
Dorgu - Cross it in for Osimhen
Dalot - Cross it in for Osimhen
Garnacho - Cross it in for Osimhen
Martinez - Cross it in for Osimhen

It will give us that strong plan A again and we can use our bench players like Zirkzee or even Hojlund for different varieties of gameplay whenever we need something different.
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
The reason I like Osimhen is that it will simplify our game rather than make it complicated.

Basically every player in our first XI should whip it in the box for Osimhen to head it in or poach.

Nothing else.

Some people would say this is a bad thing, but I think in our current problems, we need to have a strong plan A rather than a versatile forward with more complex skill set because this leads to more complicated decisions for the rest of the team.

Bruno - Cross it for Osimhen
Amad - Cross it for Osimhen
Dorgu - Cross it in for Osimhen
Dalot - Cross it in for Osimhen
Garnacho - Cross it in for Osimhen
Martinez - Cross it in for Osimhen

It will give us that strong plan A again and we can use our bench players like Zirkzee or even Hojlund for different varieties of gameplay whenever we need something different.
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I think this guy will flop in the PL, no idea why.
 
Dannn411 said:
You're right but as far as i'm concerned, absolute priorities are 2 CMs, 2 RWBs and 2 STs. The rest we can push down the line. We can get good midfielders and good RWBs for very decent money which will leave the bulk of the spending on the strikers. I dont expect us to go over €120m combined for both. €60m each is reasonable for Osimhen and Delap. City's clause for Delap is £40m. Nobody will go over £50m for him. Osimhen is out of favour at Napoli. Nobody is paying over €60m for him.

Let's say we have €200m to play with, that leaves €80m for RWBs and CMs, which I think is doable. Plus we may yet still sell others outside Antony, Sancho and Rashford which will bring in more money. Casemiro, Malacia, Mount, Zirkzee come to mind.
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Why 2 RWBs though? Unless we're selling Dalot. Need a LWB to rotate with Dorgu, Dalot is atrocious on the left.

Regardless, 80m for 4 players is not really possible, that's 20m per position, especially at CM where we really need a high quality buy. I mean Quenda, who we're heavily linked with alone will cost more than half of that.
 
Xeque_279 said:
Why 2 RWBs though? Unless we're selling Dalot. Need a LWB to rotate with Dorgu, Dalot is atrocious on the left.

Regardless, 80m for 4 players is not really possible, that's 20m per position, especially at CM where we really need a high quality buy. I mean Quenda, who we're heavily linked with alone will cost more than half of that.
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True. Perhaps we chop off one RWB and one striker which would leave us with more money for the CMs (most critical need for me.)
 
Dannn411 said:
A truly ambitious club would dump one of Zirkzee/Hojlund and go after BOTH Delap and Osimhen.
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Yeah, delap is a potential guy but I think it'd be a bad idea to bring him to be first choice, he's not ready for that
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
The reason I like Osimhen is that it will simplify our game rather than make it complicated.

Basically every player in our first XI should whip it in the box for Osimhen to head it in or poach.

Nothing else.

Some people would say this is a bad thing, but I think in our current problems, we need to have a strong plan A rather than a versatile forward with more complex skill set because this leads to more complicated decisions for the rest of the team.

Bruno - Cross it for Osimhen
Amad - Cross it for Osimhen
Dorgu - Cross it in for Osimhen
Dalot - Cross it in for Osimhen
Garnacho - Cross it in for Osimhen
Martinez - Cross it in for Osimhen

It will give us that strong plan A again and we can use our bench players like Zirkzee or even Hojlund for different varieties of gameplay whenever we need something different.
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ShinjiNinja26 said:
We need to be all over this in the summer. He’s the one top striker out there that might actually be attainable for us.
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Agreed.
Would a more refined striker be better ? Of course but we’re not in that position. We’re a bottom half club now.

His all round play is effective and we really need a CF who can hound and harass. The ones we have are miles away from it.

If Chris wood can score 19 goals in this league im confident with a bit of momentum and a decent support act Oshimen can do the same.

Our current strikers have a 1-5 a season scoring rate. Even if Oshimen only gets 15-20 it’s a massive upgrade.
Think he’s available for about 50-60 million too.
 
I wish the loan happened. We would have got a chance to see for him 6 months in this league and make a more informed decision. From the little I have seen him I don't think his overall game is good enough to thrive here. His doesn't have an exquisite touch or a good ability to play with his back to the goal. He will score goals if we create chances for him, though.
 
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Need a striker who can hold the ball up. Osimhen aint that guy.

Said the same about Hojlund when we bought him, only for CAF experts to hush me down, as that's not important for a striker apparently.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Need a striker who can hold the ball up. Osimhen aint that guy.

Said the same about Hojlund when we bought him, only for CAF experts to hush me down, as that's not important for a striker apparently.
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Does Gyokeres hold the ball up for Sporting? I’ve not seen them play enough.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Need a striker who can hold the ball up. Osimhen aint that guy.

Said the same about Hojlund when we bought him, only for CAF experts to hush me down, as that's not important for a striker apparently.
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I’m not sure why we need a striker who can hold the ball up, I’d have thought one who presses, runs in behind and in the channels etc would be more important. But then all we see from Hojlund is him trying and failing to hold it up, losing duel after duel and coming short.

I do wonder if that’s what Amorim is telling him or if he’s pulling his hair out watching it as well.
 
United obviously need a striker but this feels like another example of chasing the ready-made superstar making massive money to get supporters excited and rescue the club's fortunes, which has been a terrible formula for the last decade. He'll want 300k per week minimum and if you sign him to a five year deal you'll get the seasons when he turns 27-31 midyear so if things go poorly you'll be stuck with a Lukaku figure.

I understand why nobody wants a young striker after Hojlund and Zirkzee but the club have yoyo-ed between poor scouting on younger players and then desperately paying huge money for the ready made thing and the only true way out of that cycle is actually to start scouting younger players better, not to lean back into paying huge money for the ready made thing.

I think United would be better off buying a player like Ekitike and hoping for the best.
 
2 man midfield said:
I’m not sure why we need a striker who can hold the ball up, I’d have thought one who presses, runs in behind and in the channels etc would be more important. But then all we see from Hojlund is him trying and failing to hold it up, losing duel after duel and coming short.

I do wonder if that’s what Amorim is telling him or if he’s pulling his hair out watching it as well.
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I think it's vital we have a striker that can hold the ball up with his back to goal and bring other players into the build up as well as possessing the other skills you've mentioned and as you've stated Hojlund is terrible at it. His first touch is horrendous and his overall play is too clumsy. He needs selling this summer to make way for a better all rounded player.

I like Osimhen and think out of most strikers available to us he'd be the best we can get.
 
Red4ever27 said:
I think it's vital we have a striker that can hold the ball up with his back to goal and bring other players into the build up as well as possessing the other skills you've mentioned and as you've stated Hojlund is terrible at it. His first touch is horrendous and his overall play is too clumsy. He needs selling this summer to make way for a better all rounded player.

I like Osimhen and think out of most strikers available to us he'd be the best we can get.
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Definitely the best we can get
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
The reason I like Osimhen is that it will simplify our game rather than make it complicated.

Basically every player in our first XI should whip it in the box for Osimhen to head it in or poach.

Nothing else.

Some people would say this is a bad thing, but I think in our current problems, we need to have a strong plan A rather than a versatile forward with more complex skill set because this leads to more complicated decisions for the rest of the team.

Bruno - Cross it for Osimhen
Amad - Cross it for Osimhen
Dorgu - Cross it in for Osimhen
Dalot - Cross it in for Osimhen
Garnacho - Cross it in for Osimhen
Martinez - Cross it in for Osimhen

It will give us that strong plan A again and we can use our bench players like Zirkzee or even Hojlund for different varieties of gameplay whenever we need something different.
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Didn that end up happening with RVN, we focused too much on 1 player. When he left goals were spread out more
 
Guys on big wages, has shown to have attitude issues, wants champions league football. So tell me how this is even worth discussing?
 
Red_toad said:
Guys on big wages, has shown to have attitude issues, wants champions league football. So tell me how this is even worth discussing?
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I’m not convinced we will be prepared to pay any new signings over 200k a week so I don’t see Osimhen as a viable option.
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
The reason I like Osimhen is that it will simplify our game rather than make it complicated.

Basically every player in our first XI should whip it in the box for Osimhen to head it in or poach.

Nothing else.

Some people would say this is a bad thing, but I think in our current problems, we need to have a strong plan A rather than a versatile forward with more complex skill set because this leads to more complicated decisions for the rest of the team.

Bruno - Cross it for Osimhen
Amad - Cross it for Osimhen
Dorgu - Cross it in for Osimhen
Dalot - Cross it in for Osimhen
Garnacho - Cross it in for Osimhen
Martinez - Cross it in for Osimhen

It will give us that strong plan A again and we can use our bench players like Zirkzee or even Hojlund for different varieties of gameplay whenever we need something different.
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Dan Burn when United travel to Newcastle:

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The underrating of this guy on here is almost comical. He is without doubt in the top five strikers in the world and in his prime years. If we could get him for around 60million then we’ve got ourselves a bargain.

It also makes me laugh when people say things like ‘what’s the point of buying a striker when our team don’t create chances?’ Despite that being nonsense (we do create chances) you wait till you see a proper centre forward making intelligent runs and always seemingly being in the right place at the right time. They turn half chances into decent opportunities and we will benefit massively with Osimhen in the side.
 
croadyman said:
Delap is the only target in that under 25 category, personally I think INEOS need to be more flexible. I also get the impression that Osimhen doesn't get involved in buildup enough for Ruben.
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I'd be happy if he's just always in a good position to finish whatever the midfield and the rest of the team dish up for him. Problem with Hojlund is he's never in the right positions to convert anything.
 
Powderfinger said:
United obviously need a striker but this feels like another example of chasing the ready-made superstar making massive money to get supporters excited and rescue the club's fortunes, which has been a terrible formula for the last decade. He'll want 300k per week minimum and if you sign him to a five year deal you'll get the seasons when he turns 27-31 midyear so if things go poorly you'll be stuck with a Lukaku figure.

I understand why nobody wants a young striker after Hojlund and Zirkzee but the club have yoyo-ed between poor scouting on younger players and then desperately paying huge money for the ready made thing and the only true way out of that cycle is actually to start scouting younger players better, not to lean back into paying huge money for the ready made thing.

I think United would be better off buying a player like Ekitike and hoping for the best.
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Thing is that nowadays these players (Ekitike, Sesko, etc) cost similar or even more than what Gyokeres or Osimhen are valued at. So, do we go for a player wuth high salary demands but offers almost guaranteed qualities, or do we gamble again on an expensive young player?
 
aeh1991 said:
Thing is that nowadays these players (Ekitike, Sesko, etc) cost similar or even more than what Gyokeres or Osimhen are valued at. So, do we go for a player wuth high salary demands but offers almost guaranteed qualities, or do we gamble again on an expensive young player?
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Should be the former but INEOS will choose the latter
 
croadyman said:
Should be the former but INEOS will choose the latter
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Yea I personally would go for Sesko if we had the money and prefer to invest in the future, but even he would be a gamble. Can't be worse than what we have, but would he score 20 goals in England? Not so sure...
 
Waynne said:
I'd be happy if he's just always in a good position to finish whatever the midfield and the rest of the team dish up for him. Problem with Hojlund is he's never in the right positions to convert anything.
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Yeah I would be delighted to have striker who did that, however without winning Europa there is not a hope in hell of him signing.

Just had a Turkish football guy on Talkshite who confirms we have been watching him, however he doubts Utd will pay $75m transfer fee
 
Insanity said:
I wish the loan happened. We would have got a chance to see for him 6 months in this league and make a more informed decision. From the little I have seen him I don't think his overall game is good enough to thrive here. His doesn't have an exquisite touch or a good ability to play with his back to the goal. He will score goals if we create chances for him, though.
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Gone are the days to get a proven goalscorer, still relatively young, has exquisite touch, good pace and strength, and only cost 60-70m. Probably double that, with wages close to 400k/wk.
 
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