Victor Osimhen

[croadyman]

Yea I personally would go for Sesko if we had the money and prefer to invest in the future, but even he would be a gamble. Can't be worse than what we have, but would he score 20 goals in England? Not so sure...

What do you think about Delap?

 

[aeh1991]

What do you think about Delap?

Could be the best solution if we have to go for a cheaper option I guess. League-proven, young, homegrown. But somehow not so convincing to plan him as our main no.9 for the next 10 years if you know what I mean. Neither are our current strikers.

 

[croadyman]

Could be the best solution if we have to go for a cheaper option I guess. League-proven, young, homegrown. But somehow not so convincing to plan him as our main no.9 for the next 10 years if you know what I mean. Neither are our current strikers.

Think he is our backup target to Osimhen, however with our finances could easily see us switching to him

 

[Klean]

This potential signing would excite me greatly.

 

[croadyman]

Could be the best solution if we have to go for a cheaper option I guess. League-proven, young, homegrown. But somehow not so convincing to plan him as our main no.9 for the next 10 years if you know what I mean. Neither are our current strikers.

Who would convince you to be our no 9 for the next 10 years just out of interest?

 

[Squeaky_Bum_Time]

On paper, he makes a lot of sense. But I agree with some on here, something about him doesn’t feel right. I think he’ll flop in the PL, and I can’t put my finger on why exactly. Just a hunch.

 

[aeh1991]

Who would convince you to be our no 9 for the next 10 years just out of interest?

Sesko - if he can live up to his potential -, Isak (not for 10 years but surely he could play 7-8 on top level) and maybe even our own boy Obi, if we develop him well.

 

[croadyman]

This potential signing would excite me greatly.

Yeah me too but see wages and fee proving difficult

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

I'd be happy if he's just always in a good position to finish whatever the midfield and the rest of the team dish up for him. Problem with Hojlund is he's never in the right positions to convert anything.

This is what I've been saying too.

The chances of us building this Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney front 3 type of first 11 is much harder than trying to build a "focus on RVN" type approach.

We are not playing like a top club at the moment and we need to start playing like a good club again before we can then make the jump in to becoming a great club again.

 

[Insanity]

Gone are the days to get a proven goalscorer, still relatively young, has exquisite touch, good pace and strength, and only cost 60-70m. Probably double that, with wages close to 400k/wk.

That's how much he wants too if we go by the reports.

 

[Hanky panky]

Yea I personally would go for Sesko if we had the money and prefer to invest in the future, but even he would be a gamble. Can't be worse than what we have, but would he score 20 goals in England? Not so sure...

Haven't seen Sesko so much. But those times i have, he's been pretty average. Nothing special. For me question is, will he be realiable 20+ goal scrorer or just another Alvaro Morata? I have my doubts. He is young though and for sure better than anyone we have currently. But i would like to see some world class finisher and game winner in this team. We haven't had any since RVP and peak Rooney.

 

[croadyman]

Haven't seen Sesko so much. But those times i have, he's been pretty average. Nothing special. For me question is, will he be realiable 20+ goal scrorer or just another Alvaro Morata? I have my doubts. He is young though and for sure better than anyone we have currently. But i would like to see some world class finisher and game winner in this team. We haven't had any since RVP and peak Rooney.

Would say Osimhen is class finisher

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

What do people think about Osimhen only scoring 20+ goals in a league season only once in his career?

 

[Remember the geese]

What do people think about Osimhen only scoring 20+ goals in a league season only once in his career?

Par for the course. He isn't that good. If we sign him, he'd score us 10-15 league goals a season.

 

[2 man midfield]

Delap is the only target in that under 25 category, personally I think INEOS need to be more flexible. I also get the impression that Osimhen doesn't get involved in buildup enough for Ruben.

I’d be happy with Delap plus Osimhen. If Ipswich go down I think 40 would be enough.

 

[2 man midfield]

What do people think about Osimhen only scoring 20+ goals in a league season only once in his career?

Beggars can’t be choosers, the market for 9s is dead. But he has scored goals, which is a good start.

 

[aeh1991]

Haven't seen Sesko so much. But those times i have, he's been pretty average. Nothing special. For me question is, will he be realiable 20+ goal scrorer or just another Alvaro Morata? I have my doubts. He is young though and for sure better than anyone we have currently. But i would like to see some world class finisher and game winner in this team. We haven't had any since RVP and peak Rooney.

He switches between bang average, underwhelming and world class too often. He's got all the tools but maybe needs a better coach than Rose to flourish.

 

[sullydnl]

What do people think about Osimhen only scoring 20+ goals in a league season only once in his career?

It relates directly to the amount of minutes he's played. Per 90 his returns have consistently been excellent.

So the question is whether you trust his fitness, basically.

 

[JohnnyLaw]

What are the most reliable estimations on his value for the summer?

Weren’t there reports that he was available for a really low fee recently?

Are Napoli really in a position to demand for Osimhen what they sold Kvara for mid-season?

 

[Jericholyte2]

What are the most reliable estimations on his value for the summer?

Weren’t there reports that he was available for a really low fee recently?

Are Napoli really in a position to demand for Osimhen what they sold Kvara for mid-season?

I think it was €70-80m last summer, but obviously the relationship between club, manager and player means he’s frozen out. Then add a year less on his contract and I’d image you’d be looking at considerably less, maybe even another loan with an obligation?

 

[TsuWave]

 

[devilish]

I am not a big fan of this deal

A- Napoli are difficult to negotiate with. They'll take us to the cleaners on this one

B- The Serie A is very different (and easier) to the EPL and most strikers who were great there end up failing here

C- Osimhen was amazing during 22-23 season but he didn't emulate that season throughout his stay at Napoli. His goals tend to come against the smallest sides as well. For example his last season at Napoli he scored 17 goals in 32 matches. That's quite respectable except that he scored just 1 goal against a top side (ie Barcelona). He scored no goals against a top 4 Serie A side. The rest came mostly against the likes of Sassuolo (3) and Frosinone(3). He also scored goals against Cagliari, Monza, Udinese, Lecce and Braga. The only two goals he scored against decent sides were Roma and Barca. Even in the electrifying 22-23 season he only scored 1 goal to a top 4 side (Milan). That's a problem because I reckon that half the EPL table would do well against the Serie A top 4.

In my opinion we should go for Delap. First of all because we're better of spending less upfront and then buy more creative players. That's were the real issues lie in my opinion. Secondly Osimhen has a monstrous salary with very little to justify it. That means that if he fails then we're saddled with yet another player we can't get rid off. Finally the United mess will need time to sort and while Osimhen isn't old he'll probably be in decline by the time we are seriously competing for the major trophies.

 

[Rasmus_9]

I think we are really missing a talisman at the moment and feel this guy has the personality to spur us on.

 

[aeh1991]

What are the most reliable estimations on his value for the summer?

Weren’t there reports that he was available for a really low fee recently?

Are Napoli really in a position to demand for Osimhen what they sold Kvara for mid-season?

I think he's got a release clause of £62m. Same price as Gyokeres

 

[croadyman]

I am not a big fan of this deal

A- Napoli are difficult to negotiate with. They'll take us to the cleaners on this one

B- The Serie A is very different (and easier) to the EPL and most strikers who were great there end up failing here

C- Osimhen was amazing during 22-23 season but he didn't emulate that season throughout his stay at Napoli. His goals tend to come against the smallest sides as well. For example his last season at Napoli he scored 17 goals in 32 matches. That's quite respectable except that he scored just 1 goal against a top side (ie Barcelona). He scored no goals against a top 4 Serie A side. The rest came mostly against the likes of Sassuolo (3) and Frosinone(3). He also scored goals against Cagliari, Monza, Udinese, Lecce and Braga. The only two goals he scored against decent sides were Roma and Barca. Even in the electrifying 22-23 season he only scored 1 goal to a top 4 side (Milan). That's a problem because I reckon that half the EPL table would do well against the Serie A top 4.

In my opinion we should go for Delap. First of all because we're better of spending less upfront and then buy more creative players. That's were the real issues lie in my opinion. Secondly Osimhen has a monstrous salary with very little to justify it. That means that if he fails then we're saddled with yet another player we can't get rid off. Finally the United mess will need time to sort and while Osimhen isn't old he'll probably be in decline by the time we are seriously competing for the major trophies.

Can Delap make the step up is the big question, however agree that Osimhen salary will definitely prove a major hurdle to overcome

 

[devilish]

Can Delap make the step up is the big question, however agree that Osimhen salary will definitely prove a major hurdle to overcome

The issue is far bigger then the striker. I suggest you analyze the games very carefully and you'll understand why. There are players who refuse to pass the ball to certain players even if the latter are in a better position to score and the chance to score will be wasted. This can only be sorted by a massive staff turnover. That means that we can't spend 70m on a player.

 

[Xeque_279]

The issue is far bigger then the striker. I suggest you analyze the games very carefully and you'll understand why. There are players who refuse to pass the ball to certain players even if the latter are in a better position to score and the chance to score will be wasted. This can only be sorted by a massive staff turnover. That means that we can't spend 70m on a player.

While i do agree with your other points, this is absolutely not true. When your striker struggles to even control a pass that is the problem.

 

[devilish]

While i do agree with your other points, this is absolutely not true. When your striker struggles to even control a pass that is the problem.

Pippo Inzaghi was technically wise a donkey. His trick was always the same. He would stay just outside the offside trap, he'd use his pace (which was decent but nowhere near to Anelka's, Henry's or Giggsie's) to beat the last defender and if he finds any opposition he'll drop like a sack of potato. He was more of an actor then a player. His teammates knew that, they adapted to him and he won CLs and a WC. .

Not all passes are the same. If given a friction of a second late or behind the player or its too strong than that pass is useless and will make the striker look silly. Players need to trust one another as well. If Player A has a tendency to never pass the ball then when he does he'll probably catch the forwards by surprise.

I am not saying that we don't need a new striker. At this point our forward's confidence is dust and so is their trust towards their teammates. All I am saying is that the issue is far greater than that of the striker. We barely create any chances and we've got some of the most egoistic forwards in football who refuse to pass the ball despite not being great goalscorers themselves. The latter need to be sorted as well and is, in my opinion, a far more pressing issue

 

[Mercurial]

Pippo Inzaghi was technically wise a donkey. His trick was always the same. He would stay just outside the offside trap, he'd use his pace (which was decent but nowhere near to Anelka's, Henry's or Giggsie's) to beat the last defender and if he finds any opposition he'll drop like a sack of potato. He was more of an actor then a player. His teammates knew that, they adapted to him and he won CLs and a WC. .

Not all passes are the same. If given a friction of a second late or behind the player or its too strong than that pass is useless and will make the striker look silly. Players need to trust one another as well. If Player A has a tendency to never pass the ball then when he does he'll probably catch the forwards by surprise.

I am not saying that we don't need a new striker. At this point our forward's confidence is dust and so is their trust towards their teammates. All I am saying is that the issue is far greater than that of the striker. We barely create any chances and we've got some of the most egoistic forwards in football who refuse to pass the ball despite not being great goalscorers themselves. The latter need to be sorted as well and is, in my opinion, a far more pressing issue

And no VAR helped Inzaghi

 

[Oranges038]

The issue is far bigger then the striker. I suggest you analyze the games very carefully and you'll understand why. There are players who refuse to pass the ball to certain players even if the latter are in a better position to score and the chance to score will be wasted. This can only be sorted by a massive staff turnover. That means that we can't spend 70m on a player.

This is an issue all over the pitch, poor choice of pass, timing of the pass, quality of the pass, played to the wrong foor or behind players etc. Amorim has mentioned this on a couple of occasions.

Bruno Fernandes is probably the player who annoys me the most, sometimes for simple passes he just fecks the ball at people in horrible ways and expects them to just deal with it.

 

[devilish]

This is an issue all over the pitch, poor choice of pass, timing of the pass, quality of the pass, played to the wrong foor or behind players etc. Amorim has mentioned this on a couple of occasions.

Bruno Fernandes is probably the player who annoys me the most, sometimes for simple passes he just fecks the ball at people in horrible ways and expects them to just deal with it.

I don't rate the squad but we can all agree that the vast majority of these players are EPL level. Yet, the mistakes they are doing are very basic, so basic, that you would struggle to find them even at League 1 level. Which really makes wonder why they are happening. Is it down to training? I doubt it considering that many have had different managers and coaches in the past few years! Or is it more the case of having a fragmented dressing room were players simply won't pass to one another as they risk making their enemy look good?

 

[soapythecat]

We ain’t signing this lad purely because he would want too much. Our new wage structure would be bust and I’m onboard with that. If he flopped, or only score say 12 league goals, we and the press would be on him because he’d be on huge wages.
I’d prefer Delap out of the two but I feel there is better out there to suit our needs and budget - just need to find them!

 

[Robbie Boy]

Par for the course. He isn't that good. If we sign him, he'd score us 10-15 league goals a season.

He really isn't that good, correct. Ths hype around him is odd.

 

[The Original]

I am not a big fan of this deal

A- Napoli are difficult to negotiate with. They'll take us to the cleaners on this one

B- The Serie A is very different (and easier) to the EPL and most strikers who were great there end up failing here

C- Osimhen was amazing during 22-23 season but he didn't emulate that season throughout his stay at Napoli. His goals tend to come against the smallest sides as well. For example his last season at Napoli he scored 17 goals in 32 matches. That's quite respectable except that he scored just 1 goal against a top side (ie Barcelona). He scored no goals against a top 4 Serie A side. The rest came mostly against the likes of Sassuolo (3) and Frosinone(3). He also scored goals against Cagliari, Monza, Udinese, Lecce and Braga. The only two goals he scored against decent sides were Roma and Barca. Even in the electrifying 22-23 season he only scored 1 goal to a top 4 side (Milan). That's a problem because I reckon that half the EPL table would do well against the Serie A top 4.

In my opinion we should go for Delap. First of all because we're better of spending less upfront and then buy more creative players. That's were the real issues lie in my opinion. Secondly Osimhen has a monstrous salary with very little to justify it. That means that if he fails then we're saddled with yet another player we can't get rid off. Finally the United mess will need time to sort and while Osimhen isn't old he'll probably be in decline by the time we are seriously competing for the major trophies.

There's a lot that's off with this.

A - There's a release clause of 70mn Euros. That makes it simply a question of where the player wants to go.

B&C - He's done well in Belgium, France, and Turkey and is prolific at the international level, too, so it's clear it's not just the case that Italian football suits him. Scored against Chelsea, two against Leicester (when they were still decent) and terrorized Liverpool, winning a pen. He scored two against Tottenham the other day and had an absolute field day with their defense. That's a goal contribution against every English side he's faced. I think the signs are promising that he can handle the Premier League. Scored against Bayern, too, for what it's worth.

 

[MaMa given red]

There are way too may red flags for this transfer to happen.

The size of the fee and wages make it a very expensive deal to do.

There are question marks around his attitude and fitness issues.

The 2025 Afcon starts on the 21st of December this year so he'd miss loads of games at a busy point of the season.

I'd be amazed if we are seriously looking at signing him!

 

[bosnian_red]

There are way too may red flags for this transfer to happen.

The size of the fee and wages make it a very expensive deal to do.

There are question marks around his attitude and fitness issues.

The 2025 Afcon starts on the 21st of December this year so he'd miss loads of games at a busy point of the season.

I'd be amazed if we are seriously looking at signing him!

The AFCON has never been a reason not to do a signing. They're gone for 3 weeks of which a few of the games are cup games, it's not a huge deal. You gonna miss out on Salah because he has to play for egypt sometimes?

Attitude questions, not really. Napoli's owner has always been a cnut, wasn't there something about them not defending him in some racist abuse thing and then they priced him out of a move?

Injury issues are fair, he gets a few muscle injuries per year and that sort of thing progresses as you age.

 

[JohnnyLaw]

I am not a big fan of this deal

A- Napoli are difficult to negotiate with. They'll take us to the cleaners on this one

B- The Serie A is very different (and easier) to the EPL and most strikers who were great there end up failing here

C- Osimhen was amazing during 22-23 season but he didn't emulate that season throughout his stay at Napoli. His goals tend to come against the smallest sides as well. For example his last season at Napoli he scored 17 goals in 32 matches. That's quite respectable except that he scored just 1 goal against a top side (ie Barcelona). He scored no goals against a top 4 Serie A side. The rest came mostly against the likes of Sassuolo (3) and Frosinone(3). He also scored goals against Cagliari, Monza, Udinese, Lecce and Braga. The only two goals he scored against decent sides were Roma and Barca. Even in the electrifying 22-23 season he only scored 1 goal to a top 4 side (Milan). That's a problem because I reckon that half the EPL table would do well against the Serie A top 4.

In my opinion we should go for Delap. First of all because we're better of spending less upfront and then buy more creative players. That's were the real issues lie in my opinion. Secondly Osimhen has a monstrous salary with very little to justify it. That means that if he fails then we're saddled with yet another player we can't get rid off. Finally the United mess will need time to sort and while Osimhen isn't old he'll probably be in decline by the time we are seriously competing for the major trophies.

I wonder how strong their stance actually is, a high earning player refusing to play for you is unsustainable and it’s public knowledge. It’s hard to allow a player to rot with the reserves or whatever when he’s earning €200k a week.

I wouldn’t put all my eggs in the Osimhen basket but we’ll probably not find a higher profile striker than him out there.

If he’s a flat-track bully then good!
We bloody need one, we’ve become game-rasing cnuts who can’t put teams to the sword and it’s hurting us badly.
With Osimhen coming in Højlund would have a partner who can take the load off him where he can develop in peace.

I know people are worried about his salary but he’d barely the list of top 10 biggest earners here and considering the rather plausible scenario we’ll be shifting 4 of our biggest salaries in the summer with Rashford, Casemiro, Sancho and hopefully Antony all leaving on permanent transfers there should be room for one or two high end transfers surely.
Especially when you factor in that Eriksen and Lindelöf will be leaving aswell removing another ~£300 000 a week.

 

[MaMa given red]

The AFCON has never been a reason not to do a signing. They're gone for 3 weeks of which a few of the games are cup games, it's not a huge deal. You gonna miss out on Salah because he has to play for egypt sometimes?

Attitude questions, not really. Napoli's owner has always been a cnut, wasn't there something about them not defending him in some racist abuse thing and then they priced him out of a move?

Injury issues are fair, he gets a few muscle injuries per year and that sort of thing progresses as you age.

The dates of Afcon this year are 21 December 2025 –18 January 2026

If you take this seasons fixtures, that's potentially 7 league games missed if Nigeria go the distance. The 2027 one is currently scheduled for June/July but they often get moved. It's not an ideal scenario to have an expensive player missing games at a crucial point every other season.

 

[Redstain]

The dates of Afcon this year are 21 December 2025 –18 January 2026

If you take this seasons fixtures, that's potentially 7 league games missed if Nigeria go the distance. The 2027 one is currently scheduled for June/July but they often get moved. It's not an ideal scenario to have an expensive player missing games at a crucial point every other season.

A club of Manchester United size should easily compensate by using the squad. As others have stated AFCON should never be a reason behind omitting signing a player.

Club might as well sell Diallo by that same logic.