Victor Osimhen

Agreed. And even if you're wring about Hojland, signing Oshimen doesn't automatically stunt his growth. Amorim lokes to rotate and he'll get plenty of opportunities. For 60-65mil, we should be getting this done.
Do we have 60-65 mil?
 
If there is anyway to get Osimhen in this Jan then that would be a huge boost. Given Mctominay’s success I wonder if Napoli would take a chance on Rashford, although I have no idea if he fits their current system under Conte.

Osimhen and a LWB and we should see a marked improvement.
 
Osimhen feels like the sort of signing the Glazers would make to pipe people down a bit when the heat is on, and then regret it when it's not worked out and he's sat on a big money with no one wanting to buy him.

Ineos have said already that they are looking to buy the next top players, rather than the ones that will want a big fat contract the minute they walk through the door, so don't expect this one to go anywhere myself.
 
unless we can swap with Rashford i don't see any ways we can do the deal. need Agent Lukaku and Agent Scott to help :lol:
 
Osimhen is a star and less of a risky purchase than Gyokeres imo. Not only talent-wise, but price wise too. We’d immediately jump places up the table with Osimhen at striker. A modern beast of a center forward, should be all over this.

Perhaps Napoli could be tempted by Rashford or Zirkzee as well, the latter whom they had serious interest in at one point.
 
He'll come and score about 4 goals to the end of the season. I say this not because I think he's not a good player, but because this is what Manchester united does to players.
 
He'll come and score about 4 goals to the end of the season. I say this not because I think he's not a good player, but because this is what Manchester united does to players.

We do feel like a curse on players now
 
Anyone here who wouldn't take Osimhem obviously has no interest in United getting better. Hojlunds ceiling isn't even better than current Victor so let's not bring that into play. Osimhen comes in and will instantly transform our offense. Not only through his finishing but his movement is world class. He is a nightmare for defenders, he's always making the right runs and has the physical prowess both on the ground and in the air. He'd be a super signing at a very good price for a player of his class. Perfect age too.

Yes he would, if he gets any service. But he would barely touch the ball, because our midfield doesn't service our strikers. He would be better than Hojlund, but he would be a shadow of the player, he is at
the moment.
 
Yes he would, if he gets any service. But he would barely touch the ball, because our midfield doesn't service our strikers. He would be better than Hojlund, but he would be a shadow of the player, he is at
the moment.


You have no idea the difference it would make in a striker making the right runs and being in the right place.

He would get service as he would be ready for it.
 
You have no idea the difference it would make in a striker making the right runs and being in the right place.

He would get service as he would be ready for it.
You have no idea, how bad our midfield is...
Bruno has no control over a game and over himself. We can not control anything or build up any pressure, or handle pressure himself.

Maybe a switch to a 3412 would help, with more attacking wingbacks, but at the moment we can not create anything.
 
You have no idea the difference it would make in a striker making the right runs and being in the right place.

He would get service as he would be ready for it.
Yes he would, if he gets any service. But he would barely touch the ball, because our midfield doesn't service our strikers. He would be better than Hojlund, but he would be a shadow of the player, he is at
the moment.
If we were to get Osimhen, I’d hope Amorim goes full Fergie (in the RVP season) and tells the players if they don’t find him, they won’t play.

Hojlund a good finisher but he really struggles with his movement and positioning. You’d hope having a senior striker like Osimhen around who has great movement, positioning and hunger, that by training together every week Hojlund could pick up some of those traits.
 
if we can get him and get olmo on loan and sign a LWB, things would be much better i guess.
 
You have no idea, how bad our midfield is...
Bruno has no control over a game and over himself. We can not control anything or build up any pressure, or handle pressure himself.

Maybe a switch to a 3412 would help, with more attacking wingbacks, but at the moment we can not create anything.
His whole idea is 3421 so triangular patterns can keep the ball throughout the thirds as pattern of play moves on to the next triangular pattern, the player fills the space, the reality is maybe only 2/3 of our players have the game IQ to play in this formation right now.
 
And managers.

On topic though, Osimhen is a class striker, but without at least a new LWB and #10, I can't see much changing with him here.
I really don’t get it… why are you saying that Osimhen won’t be more effective than Hojlund???

It’s pure fallacy that we have to have perfect wingers / LWBs, RWBs and 10s in order for Osimhen to be better than Hojlund or Zirkzee. We can’t change the entire team in one window. Osimhen is available, he’s young, he’s proven. Will he win the Ballon’Dor? Probably not. But if we really want to build the squad for success, knowing that sometimes you have to bring in a piece without all of the other pieces in perfect order, it should be fine.

If you want to say that no. 10 or LWB is higher priority than a 9, fine, that’s an argument. I think, however, that our biggest problem is we have two strikers who don’t score, one because he’s terrible at identifying the right run and the other because he’s a terrible finisher and more of a link up player than a 9.

I think two things are the priority right now:

1. Start scoring and start getting some results, learn the system
2. Prepare the squad for next season

I think Osimhen can help us do both.
 
:lol:

"Levers" at it again. Just making stuff up as they go along. Must be fun.

Selling future revenue at a discount to have the cash now.

How they continue to frame such desperate and shortsighted moves as wins to their fanbase is beyond me.
 
These guys are great at extending their means to live within. Gonna be an almighty comeuppance when the levers run out and the creditors come calling. There will soon be no club/future to sell off.
What creditors? They are basically getting money for the VIP boxes (for however many years) up front.
 
Runs the channels well, attacks balls into the box, and is an aerial pest. Not sure how great his holdup play is but surely can’t be as poor as what we have now.
 
Don't see us signing Osimhen or Gyokeres, think our focus will be on signing a LWB and strengthening midfield first and persist with Hojlund. Plus was there not talk that we would be trying to pay transfer fees below £50m and not pay people really high salaries, surely that excludes both?
 
Can’t see us paying 60+ mil in January as we look to scrimp a million here and there by cutting funds for charity and exploiting fans.

We need goals but something tells me we’ll be looking at loans at the very most.
 
I really don’t get it… why are you saying that Osimhen won’t be more effective than Hojlund???

It’s pure fallacy that we have to have perfect wingers / LWBs, RWBs and 10s in order for Osimhen to be better than Hojlund or Zirkzee. We can’t change the entire team in one window. Osimhen is available, he’s young, he’s proven. Will he win the Ballon’Dor? Probably not. But if we really want to build the squad for success, knowing that sometimes you have to bring in a piece without all of the other pieces in perfect order, it should be fine.

If you want to say that no. 10 or LWB is higher priority than a 9, fine, that’s an argument. I think, however, that our biggest problem is we have two strikers who don’t score, one because he’s terrible at identifying the right run and the other because he’s a terrible finisher and more of a link up player than a 9.

I think two things are the priority right now:

1. Start scoring and start getting some results, learn the system
2. Prepare the squad for next season

I think Osimhen can help us do both.
You are right. I think posters are overlooking the fact that there are several rungs between where we are and the absolute best, the upper limit is where you need top notch enabling players to have your striker delivering 20 to 30 league goals to propel a title challenge however for where we are, he will do for now to push us up the table.

Next season, however, we will need more to push on further. Now we just need him so that we score the goals we are creating and if we start doing that, in addition to plugging the set piece goal leak, things will start looking up again.
 
Osimhen is a star and less of a risky purchase than Gyokeres imo. Not only talent-wise, but price wise too. We’d immediately jump places up the table with Osimhen at striker. A modern beast of a center forward, should be all over this.

Perhaps Napoli could be tempted by Rashford or Zirkzee as well, the latter whom they had serious interest in at one point.

Think both players are said to be around 60m but Gyokeres does have a 85 million clause. Sporting are said to be willing to take less to cash in. Even if Osimhen lowers his wage demands I'd doubt he would be cheaper than Gyokeres. So similar fee but wage package could be much steeper for Osimhen.

I wouldn't mind a Osimhen loan.
 
I really don’t get it… why are you saying that Osimhen won’t be more effective than Hojlund???

It’s pure fallacy that we have to have perfect wingers / LWBs, RWBs and 10s in order for Osimhen to be better than Hojlund or Zirkzee. We can’t change the entire team in one window. Osimhen is available, he’s young, he’s proven. Will he win the Ballon’Dor? Probably not. But if we really want to build the squad for success, knowing that sometimes you have to bring in a piece without all of the other pieces in perfect order, it should be fine.

If you want to say that no. 10 or LWB is higher priority than a 9, fine, that’s an argument. I think, however, that our biggest problem is we have two strikers who don’t score, one because he’s terrible at identifying the right run and the other because he’s a terrible finisher and more of a link up player than a 9.

I think two things are the priority right now:

1. Start scoring and start getting some results, learn the system
2. Prepare the squad for next season

I think Osimhen can help us do both.

I didn't say he's not better, just that it won't be much better for the team. He might get a few more goals but who will be setting up the multitude of goals he'd need to make a big difference from our star-studded squad?