Victor Lindelof to Wolves?

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Would rather get rid of Jones and Rojo, both are erratic and reactive. Jones is injury prone and Rojo is 28 now and not great. Lindelof has time on his side over Rojo.

Lindelof, Bailly, Smalling, Alderweireld, Tuanzebe. That would be enough cover for the CB spots. Alderweireld and Bailly/Smalling as starters. Lindelof as rotation. And Tuanzebe as back up. That would be ideal if we managed to get Alderweireld.
 
Lindelof deserves more time. One season, no matter how up and down it was, is not enough to just toss him out. Others should go first in our defensive overhaul, thinking especially of guys like Rojo (complete lack of quality), maybe Jones (always injured). He's 23 years old, if he has another season where he looks like a fish out of water then he should go.
 
We're not loaning him out unless it's with a mandatory purchase clause. Can't see José giving up on him yet though.
 
You lot are insane if you would have us loan out Lindelöf after just one season. He started shakily but massively improved as the season progressed. I’m convinced he will be become a top, top player.

Not to mention our centre backs are made of paper mâchiér and dust. If anyone goes it should be Jones or Rojo.

Why is everyone so fecking impatient? Not all players who move to a massive club in a new country hit the ground running.
 
Pexbo said:
Would have no issue with us letting him go on a season loan if we are bringing in Alderweireld. We could reassess the situation next summer and if he's done well could replace one of Smalling, Jones or Rojo.
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Personally, I don't think that he is 'cut from the right cloth' to make it at United, but a season on loan at Wolves would be a perfect way to make an assessment.
If he looks outstanding we bring him back, anything less make it a permanent deal.
 
I have little problem if he were sold, as his signing made little sense in the first place. If indeed, we get Alderwerield, there is no need for him, especially with Axel to consider.

If we could secure something with regards to Neves too, then even better. Neves and Fred would be great midfield additions.
 
The Stain said:
We're not loaning him out unless it's with a mandatory purchase clause. Can't see José giving up on him yet though.
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Why not? He hasnt settled in the premier league yet and we're likely to sign someone who can play CB. A year on loan to get used to the league and he's still young enough to come back and try again the next season. Thats not giving up on him, its just not relying on him
 
He's not going to get much game time next season, so I see no reason why not.
 
Ikon said:
Personally, I don't think that he is 'cut from the right cloth' to make it at United, but a season on loan at Wolves would be a perfect way to make an assessment.
If he looks outstanding we bring him back, anything less make it a permanent deal.
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I disagree, I think he's grown a lot as the season developed. He's much quicker in his actions now and he's been putting himself about a bit in recent matches, not afraid to go up against players like Carroll physically.

There's definitely a player in there IMO.
 
Pexbo said:
I disagree, I think he's grown a lot as the season developed. He's much quicker in his actions now and he's been putting himself about a bit in recent matches, not afraid to go up against players like Carroll physically.

There's definitely a player in there IMO.
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I'm still convinced he'll be the Swedish Rio Ferdinand at some point.
 
Bit of a weird rumour to make up even for fthese frauds but still rather see something credible before thinking about it.
 
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Yes please... Do a Lindelof plus cash deal for Neves.
 
I'd like this. If he doesnt' show marked improvements there after playing week in, week out, we know he'll not cut it at OT. Good move for him too, he needs more and more experience of the league.
 
abdo99 said:
It doesn't matter imo what choice he is. Both Smalling and Jones have failed to live up to expectations. What choice they are isn't what matters. Smalling is supposed to be in the senior player in the defence. If he's good enough than why are people talking about Alderweireld or another CB?
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Because most teams play with more than one centre back?
 
He looks nothing special imo. I would cash in with a buyback fee in the unlikely case he ends up Pique MK II.
 
Ekeke said:
Why not? He hasnt settled in the premier league yet and we're likely to sign someone who can play CB. A year on loan to get used to the league and he's still young enough to come back and try again the next season. Thats not giving up on him, its just not relying on him
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We can't be loaning out our £30m signings man. You either put faith in him or sell. Better to sell 2 of Rojo/Smalling/Jones or just one if he wants to have 5.

I honestly don't think he'll make it here so there's that. He hasn't shown enough for me to believe he can improve to the necessary standard either. He always backs off giving the attacker too much space and gets turned so easily. He's not particularly fast or good in the air either. He was brought in because apparently he was a good sweeper with ball-playing skills whom had a great mentality who could read the game and defend accordingly. Yet all he does is play 5 meter passes and gets caught out of position way too often.

There's no way he will ever be considered one of the best defenders in the league and you can quote me on that. Let's not settle for mediocrity, time to aim higher. Get a top defender in with experience who can lead the defense and pair him with Bailly.
 
Adisa said:
What the feck is wrong with some of you people? Young defender in a new country that has improved as the season has gone on.
Pretty sure some of you would have been calling for us to sell Vidic and Evra in the summer if 06.
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Came to say this. If an 18 year old Cristiano joined these days I couldn't see us waiting 3-4 years for him to bloom like he did. No patience anymore which is sad to see.
 
Solius said:
Came to say this. If an 18 year old Cristiano joined these days I couldn't see us waiting 3-4 years for him to bloom like he did. No patience anymore which is sad to see.
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He didnt take 3-4 years but I do agree with you
 
Jones has been here for quite a while without really offering something , why get rid of someone that is still adapting to the league?
 
Smores said:
Given the amount of ramblings on here that Jose should be patient with youth and that he only goes old it's amusing to see so many then want to cash in on a young CB in his first season.
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What they mean is patient with the flavour of the month player. If the caf had it's way we would buy any player in good form and sell them as soon as they hit a rocky patch.
 
I'd send him out on loan. If we dont sell anyone, our center back options will likely be:
  • Alderweireld (looks likely)
  • Bailly
  • Jones
  • Smalling
  • Lindelof
  • Rojo
  • Tuanzebe
Way too many obviously. A lindelof loan let's him start consistently and show his ability elsewhere, while he wouldnt be starting here next esson either. Rojo still probably needs to be sold, to leave us with the main 4+tuanzebe as the 5th for cover. But 1 surely has to be sold and at least one sent on loan.
 
Why is there outrage that some might want to get rid? He's had literally one or two good games all season, there's patience and then there's blind optimism. So far he hasn't done anything to suggest he will cut it here and if rumours of Alderweireld coming in are true that only pushes him further down the pecking order.
 
between this thread and the wanting united to lose the fa cup thread, feck me. pathetic.
 
I wouldn't sell him but if we loaned him to Wolves as part of a deal to get Neves I'd be all for it.
 
I think he could be decent but needs more game time which could come with a loan like this.

Also sweetens a Neves deal
 
broccoli said:
Another CB? So either Lindelof or Bailey were a failure? It's too soon imo.
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Unfortunately, more and more it looks like both were failure one way or another. Bailly needs to stay fit much more than he did this season.

VivaObertan said:
He's not even been bad tbh
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Agree..he has not been that bad..he has been The worst. and we blew some 35-40M for him.

Phil Jones 79 said:
Cash in. Fish out of water
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Agree. I dont see anything in him that shows signs that he will make it here. I will want to keep him only and only if Jose sees playing 3 man backline as a probable option for us( which i dont like at all).

3KDré said:
He's not going to get much game time next season, so I see no reason why not.
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I believe thats because if Jose sells him in one year, it would look like Jose made a mistake which Jose would not want despite it being the reasonable thing to do.

Solius said:
Came to say this. If an 18 year old Cristiano joined these days I couldn't see us waiting 3-4 years for him to bloom like he did. No patience anymore which is sad to see.
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There is another side of story though. You cannot compare any average footballer with exception like CR. And, the diiference in opinion is not because of patience but how people see his talent/abilities. the difference is people like you see some promise in him but people like me think he will not come good in 1 year or 5 years or 10 years.
 
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abdo99 said:
It doesn't matter imo what choice he is. Both Smalling and Jones have failed to live up to expectations. What choice they are isn't what matters. Smalling is supposed to be in the senior player in the defence. If he's good enough than why are people talking about Alderweireld or another CB?
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Because Smalling is literally the only reliable central defender we have? His partner has changed every few matches this season as every other option has bounced between being injured and just playing badly.

If we do sign a new central defender it wouldn't surprise me if Jose tries to start the season with the new guy and Bailly and hope that Bailly can both stay fit and show consistency in his performances. However he hasn't done either of those things in his two seasons with us so far, and I'd say there's well over a 50% chance that Smalling overtakes him and reclaims the first choice role alongside the new guy.

Selling Smalling and relying on three or four other guys who have shown to be significantly injury prone and even when they are fit are less consistent in form...it's not going to happen.
 
Should have never bought him, could see it from his first game in pre season that he was miles away from being ready to play here.
 
We have defenders who've been here for donkey's years and not shown anything worthwhile. Why not get rid of them first?
 
All this talk of selling Lindelof is tiring and a bit pointless.

He was signed for big money, is a young emerging CB who was sought after and has potential to develop into a top class player.

Now I agree he hasn't been top top class this season, but neither was Rio, or Vidic or various other players who have come to this great club over the years. Its difficult for a young player to bed into a new country, converting to life at a massive club like utd.

While we have the likes of Rojo, Blind, Darmian, Smalling and Jones at the club, the talk of selling a big money signing after 1 season is absolutely absurd.

Lindelof needs to stay, otherwise whats the point of signing him in the 1st place. If he stunk the place out and had a 1/10 every game, my thought process would be a big different. We have become so inpatient its unreal.

If any utd player has a bad game and deserves to be sold after a poor performance, we'd have a very very thin squad based on this season. Let him develop. Give him a chance
 
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Unfortunately, more and more it looks like both were failure one way or another. Bailly needs to stay fit much more than he did this season.


Agree..he has not been that bad..he has been The worst. and we blew some 35-40M for him.


Agree. I dont see anything in him that shows signs that he will make it here. I will want to keep him only and only if Jose sees playing 3 man backline as a probable option for us( which i dont like at all).


I believe thats because if Jose sells him in one year, it would look like Jose made a mistake which Jose would not want despite it being the reasonable thing to do.



There is another side of story though. You cannot compare any average footballer with exception like CR. And, the diiference in opinion is not patience but how people see his talent/abilities. the difference is people like you see some promise in him but people like me think he will not come good in 1 year or 5 years or 10 years.
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You talk utter nonsense.
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
Of course you are happy, as we are not gonna be competitive with him.
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I’d say he became World Class that season, but he was a very very good player the seasons leading up to that. That Millwall FA Cup was 2004 I believe? Also I remember him being incredible during 2005. I don’t think you can compare that level with what Lindolof has shown. Although I don’t agree with selling him either.
 
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