Yeah, he was good with both feet. Also thought Van Gaal would love him as he was so good on the ball but that didn't work out as expected.
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Yeah, he was good with both feet. Also thought Van Gaal would love him as he was so good on the ball but that didn't work out as expected.
He’ll get plenty of game time and if he wants to leave next season so be it. It only becomes an issue when you aren’t winning things.
The ruthless option would be to take any money offered now and keep Bailly/Tuanzebe, but the latter just needs game time for the sake of his career.
The ruthless option would be to take any money offered now and keep Bailly/Tuanzebe, but the latter just needs game time for the sake of his career.
I've been massively critical about Lindelof since he joined but I am very happy with him as a back up option.
He will get plenty of game time with injury, rotation and cup games.
My only worry for him is that from memory, he was very poor when coming in for the odd game and has been better since being a regular in the first 11.
The Evans to Rio and Vidic is a good shout (Not that I think Varane is a good as Rio or Maguire as good as Vidic)
He will get plenty of game time with injury, rotation and cup games.
My only worry for him is that from memory, he was very poor when coming in for the odd game and has been better since being a regular in the first 11.
The Evans to Rio and Vidic is a good shout (Not that I think Varane is a good as Rio or Maguire as good as Vidic)
Should be our 3rd choice CB and 2nd RB(against good teams). Sell Bailly and Jones.
Shaw - Maguire - Varane - AWB
Telles - Axel - Lindelöf - Dalot
Shaw - Maguire - Varane - AWB
Telles - Axel - Lindelöf - Dalot
In his rightful place as backup
Or like the EL final where Lindelof couldn’t but a clue
Yes, he's never going to inspire a side to a league title but as a back up, he's very okay. Never injured and has far more good games than bad ones. Some give the impression like he's a cross between Boumsong and Mangala.
Does @A-man work for them, it sounds familiar
Well he’s not that bad but he should never have been a regular starter here, he makes too many errors and relies too much on others to hide his deficiencies
Not as good as Evans either and people wanted him gone too
Works for me
Bingo! Finally someone else calls it. He’s gets away with a lot of his errors because his teammates bale him out. Now imagine the team didn’t have to worry about that so much anymore..
Very true. On the other hand, I don't think defenders in general are as good as they were in the Rio ere, So i think all three are probably the modern day equivalents.
For all the talk of the Maguire/Varane partnership, I will be interested to see how Lindelof performs with Varane - maybe a partner with a bit more pace could help his overall game.
Given the Maguire is not back into training for another couple of weeks, it could be that Ole starts with Varane/Lindeloff against Leeds so we may get a chance to see.
Given the Maguire is not back into training for another couple of weeks, it could be that Ole starts with Varane/Lindeloff against Leeds so we may get a chance to see.
It's crazy to me that in 2k21 we judge defenders by how well they can defend. It's like the Medieval period all over again.
They are trying to but nobody wants Jones.
I am absolutely stoked by the Varane deal like everyone else, but why some want to sell Lindelof is beyond me. Still a very important player and having a third good CB certainly does not hurt.
There are a bunch of players we clearly need less than him.
There are a bunch of players we clearly need less than him.
Can I get an answer on this?
Can he play as DM or converted to one? Seen Oshea in that role a few times for Sir Alex, maybe it's easier for fullbacks to transition. Someone help me out here.
Can he play as DM or converted to one? Seen Oshea in that role a few times for Sir Alex, maybe it's easier for fullbacks to transition. Someone help me out here.
If you're for real then the answer is no, as he is not good enough as a first choice defender, let alone in all aspects needed in midfield.
He's not strong or decisive enough, neither does he take responsibility as the deepest lying defender with the whole pitch and all the players in front of him. Can you imagine Lindelof receiving the ball on the half turn or when an opposition player is in within 5 yards of him? It's going back where it came and for any transitions or players running with the ball, you can bet your dollar he's not going to engage or do anything of note other than shepherding him into his own half.
He'll be brilliant at playing flag/touch football where it's only all about zonal positioning and little physical presence.
Fergie was a genius, who got the most of his team but he wouldn't get away with having a O'Shea/Rafael/Park centre midfield nowadays; not that he would need to because he would have built a superior team.
Oh it was a serious question. Someone here might have seen him at junior level or at some point in his formative years to give insight to a side of his game we would not have seen in his present role.
Btw I generally believe top level footballer are as good as the instructions they are given. So Fergie would have made it work now if the need arised.
He's easily our 3rd best CB and we need to keep hold of him. It's Jones and Tuanzebe who need to leave. Varane, Maguire, Lindelof and Bailly are enviable defensive options, we have actual depth at CB for the first time in ages.
Lindelof and Bailly should start the league cup games tbh.
Lindelof and Bailly should start the league cup games tbh.
He should stay, we need a 3rd CB, and this should be someone who can manage to stay fit when needed. The reason we weren't concerned last season was because Maguire and him are not prone to injuries as much, and hence we haven't had to rely on Baily.
I don't trust Baily to be fit when we need him, and he's arguably regressed since he's joined us. Which makes his contract extension seem bonkers. Sell him and keep Lindelof and Axel as backups.
I don't trust Baily to be fit when we need him, and he's arguably regressed since he's joined us. Which makes his contract extension seem bonkers. Sell him and keep Lindelof and Axel as backups.
Doubt he'll do well in that position. Isn't agressive nor brave enough.
Who’d have thought eh, defenders who can defend
Yes, 3rd is fine.
But you have to understand that for many people he was number 1 on the upgrade ASAP list
It varies on your intepretation but Lindelof is not a top level footballer and compared to his colleagues in the club probably has the lowest upward potential or base ability bar thereotical/zonal reading of the game.
If Fergie was to choose anyone to give instructions to, unless he had half the squad depleted to injuries and/or he couldn't buy anyone else, Lindelof would not be his 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice as a DM.
Look at the comments in this thread, where the majority believe he is very comfortably at best a squad player. What makes you think he could suddenly step into midfield. I mean if you're original question was 'could he do a job there for the hell of it?' Then yeah sure of course he could, the same way we could have McT as a centre back or Fred as left back
The real question is 'why would you?' It achieves nothing positive for him or Utd.I won't even comment. I just pray that someday people see the error of their ways.
Yes I hope you do lad
Him as DM is Phil Jones as DM all over again. Do not want. Let him compete for the CB spot and hopefully his legs arent shaky when he finally gets to play.
No need to worry. Next year they will probably ban heading and Lindelof will become a great CB.
I actually think it would be quite different.
Jones' main benefit in his midfield run was randomly running the ball up the pitch on a dribble and getting involved in some moments around the goal. His passing was so-so, fine for a CB playing a midfield role. Defensively? He could compete with players but didnt exactly have the positioning of Carrick or the ball winning of Ndidi
I could see Lindelof adapting to be a decent holding midfielder passing the ball, occasionally finding a nice pass into front players like Matic and Fred do. But I'm not convinced he'd hold his position defensively in front of the defence well because he likes to retreat and try to track players as a CB. So I'm not sure he'd do that well confronting players and closing them down so they dont get space, rather he might continue to back off. And if that changed and he's less reluctant to engage in DM, why wouldnt it change at CB?
So yeah. I think Jones was fine defensively in midfield but not brilliant, surprisingly had some good moments going forward and joining play
While I expect Lindelof would be a bit weak defensively, but comfortable on the ball and playing a decent passing game
People wanted Evans gone because of a dramatic loss of form. The he himself admitted cost him his United career.
Let’s not rewrite history, people were calling for him to leave a long long time before then. Many were saying we needed to keep pique and get rid of Evans
Perhaps. Back then I wanted Brown to leave and Evans and Pique to stay personally...
When people like you give him high rating on consistent basis because you thought he was that good even though he wasn’t then it doesn’t matter what his average rating is on the cafe. If you give him lower, would his rating be lower than 5.9? Yes.
You think the number of members rating players are counted in the 10s? I'm assuming that we're talking at least several hundreds, and regardless of whether A-man gave him 1s after every game or 10s after every game, he'd still have a 5.9 rating.
Do you think there are only 10s people in here who rate Lindelof? Do you think every people have the same standard of rating? Some people could use 7 as their highest while rarely use 10 but some people do the opposite.
As I said, the Caf ratings aren't scientific, they just give you an idea of how the average Caf poster rates the players relative to one another. Based on that, the average Caf poster seems to think Lindelöf is pretty decent. Pretty much every player will have people who rate them "too high" and others who rate them "too low." The people who use a 7 where others ues a 10, or a 2 where others use a 5, will do that for all players, and this will bear out in the average. Or do you think these things are unique to Lindelöf?
How many of you guys actually rate players? It would be interesting to see everyone's rating too. Is that even available?
Personally I have never participated in the line up prediction or rated a player in my whole time here.
Personally I have never participated in the line up prediction or rated a player in my whole time here.
More like decent because he’s being protected by Maguire until people realised how shit he is when playing next to Bailly.
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