Pretty sure we’ll be a better defensive side without him in it. I guess we’ll find out soon.
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I still don't see any attributes which suggest this might happen.
Ah yeah true. He's probably got most of them.
Coming from the most bias person in the thread
Arent all 31 of your posts about Lindelof?
I know you've been on here for a long time but aren't you throwing bricks in glass houses right now since all you tend to do these days is slag off Lindelöf. Bit embarrassing really. He's won player of the month, nominated last month and won player of the year in Sweden during one of the best years for Swedish football since 1994 so clearly someone else must be feeling that he's not as utter dogshit as you persist to make him out to be.
Where have I said he's utter dogshit?
He's okay. Not as good as Jones and Smalling. But hes okay. And Martial was much better last month. Actually several players were
I dont think i remember another player getting so much stick for getting a potm award?
Bailly is a better CB but Mourinho doesn't think so.
Coming from the most bias person in the thread
Arent all 31 of your posts about Lindelof?
coming from the poster who patrols all our defender's performance threads making sure none gets compared favourably to your beloved Chris Smalling.He won it because a) almost everyone else has been utterly useless in November, b) he has been genuinely quite good and c) he has started playing more on the front foot which enables us to push us away from defending on the edge of our own box.
Bailly is better by far. We just a stubborn and petty manager
When was the last time Bailly had a really good performance? Honestly can't remember!
Why isn't he allowed to play himself back into form when he's clearly better than others in his position? Matic is afforded that and I can't remember the last time he had a good game.
Bailly has had more bad games then he has good for us. Not to mention his awful injury record. Why should he be allowed to play himself back into form when he's never shown he can sustain that form for a long period? Not sure what you're seeing to believe Bailly is 'clearly better'. In his time here he's probably tied with Phil Jones for most mistakes/bad games.
Matic has nothing to do with it as pretty much all United fans agree that he should have been dropped a long time ago.
Bailly individually may be better than Lindelof but he is not a team player. Bailly makes mistakes that makes the team suffer. He switches off at crucial moments or he will not hold the line or try to play offside when everyone else is trying not to and this sort of mistakes. You cannot play in CB unless it works as a team. Lindelof is much better to play as a team player.
I actually think he should be pushed up into the defence midfield player role. He will be much better than Matic in that role.
I actually think he should be pushed up into the defence midfield player role. He will be much better than Matic in that role.
Lindelöf has been posting quite rapidly on his instagram story the last few days from Dubai. Looks like he's brought a trainer from the club, and is healing very well. He's already doing relatively intense movement exercises, and light-moderate jogging, and a very light exercise with a ball. Maybe he'll be back quicker than expected?
Bailly is better at his best and worse when he plays badly.
Lindelof is a more consistent mediocre CB. He's also better with his use of the ball regardless of Bailly's form.
Lindelof is a more consistent mediocre CB. He's also better with his use of the ball regardless of Bailly's form.
Well his performance today against Arsenal was more impressive than anything the average Lindelof has managed this season
It was nice to see him back on the pitch in good shape again, had a good game!
I hope that he gets a good run in the team.
He might still be a bit too erratic for my taste atm, but if he gets a good run maybe he can improve his decisionmaking and be more calm and composed.
Liverpool 3:1 Man Utd
I've slagged him off many times but that was a serious effort from someone rushing back from injury
He doesn't suit the last ditch defending that Jose set us up for today.
Then again, nobody does.
Then again, nobody does.
Its actually what hes best at. Was the same at the world cup. Back off until the last pass comes in and having to get there to stop a chance or shot
It wasn't the same at the World Cup at all... Sweden are organised and have a game plan - which includes midfielders and wingers being rigid and offering protection. Our defense just drops deep, our midfield is all over the place and thus it becomes last-ditch, with people sliding all over the place to block shots etc.
He defended the box with last ditch contributions. And played some long balls from set pieces. Thats all he did at the world cup
He's been more progressive in trying to make tackles further up the pitch to stop moves at United this season.
Gave the ball away at the beginning of the game which could have been a Liverpool goal but after that he recovered and wasnt too bad.
Shaky at first, recovered reasonably well.
No it's not. Hes a defender who prefers to play higher up the pitch. Smalling is the only one in our back line who likes to sit deep.
Lindelof sits deeper than Smalling via average position, so thats completely false
Watch how they play. Lindelof's style suits having more room behind him to maneuver into. Smalling likes to face up the pitch and make clearances and interceptions. Then again you think Smalling is one of the best defenders in the league so....
Couldn't have imagined I would say it 3 months ago but he has been our best defender this season, hands down.
One of the very few positives this season so far.
Extra happy for him being a Swede and all.
Extra happy for him being a Swede and all.
Complete assumption. Look at the facts, Lindelof's average position is deeper. Smalling is faster and reads the game better, so both in practice and in theory Smalling is better defending from higher up than Lindelof.
On the ball of course Lindelof is more suited to being further forward because he has better technical and passing skills. As a defender though its Lindelof's game to be challenging for the final ball, not trying to break things up before they get to that point.
I like him, needs to be playing in a stronger backline.
Had a decent game specially considering he wouldn't have trained much given the injury..
I think he was really good yet again. By far our most calm and composed defender even if he lost the ball badly in the first half.
If he and Smalling had started I think we'd have done much better.
Everyone likes Bailly because he goes into tackles like a madman or presses up the pitch but it alwasy results in dangerous chances being conceded, Lindelöf is a much more safe and quality defender imho.
If he and Smalling had started I think we'd have done much better.
Everyone likes Bailly because he goes into tackles like a madman or presses up the pitch but it alwasy results in dangerous chances being conceded, Lindelöf is a much more safe and quality defender imho.
Not too bad considering back from injury and part of a totally new constellation and playing against very good forwards.iverpo had many shots today but most of them were not really any danger despite the dominance.
A rather rough mistake of Lindelof in the beginning but a solid workout the rest of the match. One of the best in the team again.
He tries to control the defense work by talking to his teammates and gesturing, I like it and it feels good that he is back after the injury.
He made sure Salah did not get much space today, well done.
He tries to control the defense work by talking to his teammates and gesturing, I like it and it feels good that he is back after the injury.
He made sure Salah did not get much space today, well done.
Weak ass defender. Didnt deserve to start ahead of Bailly who had a better game.
In some ways Bailly had a better game, but he also made more mistakes/poor decions. Anyway, think both were decent today. If you look at the whole season Lindelof has been superior so not so strange Mourinho wanted him back as soon as possible.
Other than the lunging challenge that deflected the ball past his own keeper which was a mistake, which other mistakes did Bailly make? Lindelof had the one where he lost the ball right in front of defense too. So I can only remember 1 from each specifically
Lindelof and Bailly has positive games I thought.
Mistake was the wrong word, because he didn’t really make many mistakes. Think he was very good in that sense. But I think he made some poor decisions where he took some adventurous trips and left a big hole for Lindelof to cover. It worked much better in second half between them. As a whole, however, I think Bailly was the best United player together with DDG.
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