I have been as critical as anyone, but he was fine today. Rudiger was Pogba's man all game, hard to blame Lindelof if he scores.
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Especially since it most of the time ends up with DDG wasting the ball to the opponents with a poor long kick. Better Lindelof takes more chances. He has better precision. Maybe they are told by Mourinho to not lose the ball?
Not true. Pogba gets screened by Luiz and wants to switch his man with Victor. Communication is not good enough and in these types of sits it takes half a second for a team to get fecked. Well played by Chelsea and both Pogba and Victor should talk this over a couple of times. Maybe just not on the field nxt time...
Not true.
You don´t switch man. It is basically impossible.
You ensure that you don´t get in a situation where you get blocked. You do that by being closer to your man, more aggressive and competetive in your own box.
He's just shit, isn't he.
Nowhere near the standard we need. Name one top club in Europe he would start for?
Nowhere near the standard we need. Name one top club in Europe he would start for?
Well now he’s not really playing in a top club but in a club around 10th position in its national league. Not many, if any, in United would start for a European top club. Maybe DDG in one or two of the top clubs and maybe Pogba in one or two, but not more than that.
He's rubbish, simple as. Switched off at the second goal. As the ball pinged back off the post from Luiz's header, Lindelof is right on Barkley but he literally stands still watching the ball, whereas Barkley reacted. Watch the replay. It is unforgivable for a defender to be standing still ball watching in their own box.
That's true, two rash CB's together but it worked, I just think he's still young for a CB ad if partnered with a calm head it could aid him in settling down and maturing.
I agree that Pogba should have done better. Never said otherwise. But so should Victor, who almost helps Luiz with what is essentially a "pick and roll" in basketball without the ball.
Try to be aggressive and follow your man with Luiz palm and hair suddenly in your face. Its not so easy, and Victor needs to be aware of the situation even if its just a "hey" from Pogba. This takes two tenths of a second max, and there is no time for "conversations" here.
Its funny though, people get on Smallings ass when he grabs players in the area. Which he does a lot. But he does not lose his player like this. Ever. Because its a doghouse in the PL in the penalty area. So Pogba needs to do better. Victor too. Its a team effort this.
And so should Lukaku (do better), who is supposed (it seems) to be the free man and is supposed to attack the ball. Rashford is out of position too, Its not so easy as just to blame Pogba for this, which was my original point.
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Sorry, I thus disagree that its basically impossible to switch markings at a corner. I argue that it is the opposite for a well drilled team. This is going to happen (screens) in the PL. You need to be able to cope with it. Communication is everything.
Thought he was quite good today. By no means perfect but he mainly played quite well in the 2nd half.
Its not just him though and its not just a defender's responsibility to be defending a set piece long ball at the end of the game like that. We have like 5 players in the box with 4 Chelsea ones. Smalling goes for the ball, the other 4 should be alive enough to deal with the rest. But only Lindelof is in a position to defend if what happens happens. Everyone else is too far forward and not moving towards the ball. He doesn't do well, no. But if Lindelof managed to block a shot there and stop us conceding it'd have been a hero play. As he's the only one in a decent defensive position to compete for it. He doesnt do it.
You're talking about the first goal not the second.Not true. Pogba gets screened by Luiz and wants to switch his man with Victor. Communication is not good enough and in these types of sits it takes half a second for a team to get fecked. Well played by Chelsea and both Pogba and Victor should talk this over a couple of times. Maybe just not on the field nxt time...
Not true.
He just never has composure even when he doesn't make a mistake.
For example we could be under team pressure for ten mins- only for the ball to end up with Lindelof & he ends up slicing it up the pitch to a complete random outcome. Then the pressure starts again.
It's why I miss my boy Blind - felt like he played with a cigar on one hand.
For example we could be under team pressure for ten mins- only for the ball to end up with Lindelof & he ends up slicing it up the pitch to a complete random outcome. Then the pressure starts again.
It's why I miss my boy Blind - felt like he played with a cigar on one hand.
I don’t get that he played well yesterday. Weak on the first goal and he looks like he needs babysitting. I don’t see that he’s very good on the ball either. How the hell was he scouted for months and all the defects in his game weren’t noticed?
I don't get it as well. He wasn't good enough today imo, he's been passenger ever since he joined us, Smalling did everything for him and today is the same thing. 1st half was awful, 2nd half was better than 1st half but does't justify enough to be called decent or okay performance. He's nowhere near to called "ball playing", his passing ability is nothing special even today as well just play to de gea or sideways most of the times, he's not comfortable with the ball and get panic easily and today proves it once again.
Although I like the moment when he stopped Giroud once, that was good unlike the Brighton game that he was just ball watching not following his man. But one good moment and couple of free header/unchallenged clearance isn't going to be enough to convince me.
I'm not trying to be critical or scapegoating him, but if some of our fans think he played well then I need to post this.
He's crap, end of.
played really well particularly driving the ball forward and his safe passing play.
But he was so out of breath and lacking focus on the 2nd goal. Understandable because of the final whistle looming, but Vidic would have destroyed Luiz for that header.
Overall, encouraging stuff and I certainly still have patience in him.
But he was so out of breath and lacking focus on the 2nd goal. Understandable because of the final whistle looming, but Vidic would have destroyed Luiz for that header.
Overall, encouraging stuff and I certainly still have patience in him.
Watched the game again and I have to say he was shaky at times but he showed glimpses of being a proficient ball playing defender especially when we went through that surge of confidence during the second half. Well done.
And he moved like he'd smoked a few too many before the game too.
Seriously, give it up. The majority will always see Blind as a nothing player here and I can't see him ever doing anything to convince people otherwise within the remainder of his career. Also he's overrated as a ball playing CB. There are actual CBs around that are better defensively, better physically and better at passing. These are the players we need, not Daley Blind.
Finally his fire in his belly flicker again. More stronger fire please.
I can’t remember a single time he did that even though Chelsea put pressure sometimes. I honstely think he should take many more chances with long balls instead of passing Smalling or DDG who both will end up slicing the ball to a “complete random outcome” if they are under the slightest pressure.
Some fans eh? Even when he plays well, he still gets lambasted. Whilst there might be CB's that are better out there, we are losing games because of the defence.
Say what you want about Blind but that last section is absolute nonsense. You won't see another centreback get the forwards in behind defenses as often as he did.
As for Lindelof, I thought he played quite well yesterday. There's a lot of confirmation bias when it comes to players we don't like. Nuts people are trying to blame him for the first goal. He needs upgrading but he's not nearly as bad as many make out.
Confirmation basis...I like that.
Not good enough. Not even close.
Decent as usual when he isnt shit. We are waiting for the MOTM performance that will never happen. Iceman is also a funny nickname, he is anything but cool. He is a nervous wreck. If we had 2 Lindelöfs as Cbs, we would concede with every second ball getting thrown into the penalty box. It is like he played as a striker all his life and we try to convert him to a CB. Or maybe he isnt used to defend and lets his partner do most of the dirty work, while he steps up when the ball flies into his legs. Calling him a defender is disrespectful to all the great ones we had at the club.
Iceman ? more like the Ghostman,because everything goes fecking through him.
We've made some pointless signings over the years but he's right up there.
We've made some pointless signings over the years but he's right up there.
Thought he played well yesterday
Yea, I think Bailly passes superbly between the lines. Is absolutely calm and never seems to pass back, give away possession nor hoof it.
He's rarely ever at the wrong place and is so great at set pieces. Our best defender.
Man Utd 0:1 Juventus
Easily MOTM today. Actually looked like a proper defender for once.
Excellent last 70 mins from him, assertive for a change, defended with hunger.
His best game. Still no evidence of the ball playing defender we were promised though.
That was a dominant performance from Lindelof
Best performance he's ever had for us tonight.
Had a very weak first 15-20 mins of the game where Juventus players kept running in behind him. Also caught out in no man's land on the Juventus goal. However, he also had several good tackles and tracking runs back after that first 20 mins. Overall he was okay and had a good second half
Really poor on his part for the Juve goal but the rest of the game he was fantastic. I do see some promise in him, hopefully a better manager can realise it.
Fantastic tonight.
His best performance in a United shirt, the only positive of tonight
First time I’ve ever seen him look like a player.
I feel bad (not really) for having to caveat this by saying I still think he’s shite but that was genuinely a great second half. Looked like a proper defender.
Very good. Even lived up to his nickname a few times.
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