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With Bailly being so Kamikaze, he requires a calm, composed figure next to him; not sure Lindelof is that guy.

The amount of vitriol aimed at Michael Keane and the prospect of him being brought back looks naive, doesn't it? This kid was a better option apparently, despite most of the advocates of his signing likely never actually seen him play, nor him proving himself in a proper league.

Selling Jones or Smalling certainly isn't a viable option now; in the absence of a reliable pairing (or even just one complete defender, for that matter) numerous 'decent' variables is going to have to be the way forward for now.
 
We didn't need to sign him, wasn't impressed by him before. I could understand if we went for Varane I'd be all for it but to add Victor doesn't make sense. Even if one of Jones or Smalling was to be sold this summer we would have been better off developing Tuanzebe or Fosu-Mensah at CB. Pointless.
Need Rojo back ASAP.
 
NeglectedGoat said:
Anyone who says he's shite and completely writes him off after a couple of pre season games just doesn't understand football. Fair enough you can say he's been shite so far in pre season but to actually declare him a bad player after a handful of pre season games is ridiculous.

Obviously we've scouted him excessively before purchasing so I'd give it more time before jumping to any conclusions. Give it at least half a season and then see how he's faring and even at that its too early to judge I think. Not every player is going to hit the ground running and these things take time.

The issue now is that some fans are already getting on his back after a few pre season games and they'll happily jump on any little mistake of his purely to boost their own ego and clamour to people down the line about how they were right about him all along.
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To continue the tragically apt Smiths quote to which you were no doubt referring, "these things take time, I know that I'm, the most inept that ever stepped ".
 
Android1974 said:
I wonder how many minutes will he have against Barcelona. Maybe it's time to starting thinking about protecting the player. Looking forward to those clashes with the physical Premier League strikers.:nervous:
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If Chicharito signs for West Ham, and comes up against Lindelof on day 1 of the Premier League, it's gonna be ugly. Chicharito will run him into the ground. Can see another penalty being conceded.
 
AP88 said:
The amount of vitriol aimed at Michael Keane and the prospect of him being brought back looks naive, doesn't it? This kid was a better option apparently, despite most of the advocates of his signing likely never actually seen him play, nor him proving himself in a proper league.
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Few of us had seen Bailly play, but most of us trust Jose when it comes to CBs. That's all there is to it really. Jose knows a good CB when he sees one, his track record in that department is as good as any manager in the game.
 
That tackle today is something you'd expect a 18/19 year old to make, utterly abysmal decision making. He's hardly been tested but has shat the bed when called into action, I hate to think how he'll cope mentally in games that actually mean something with the intensity of the games being a lot bigger.
 
As a Swede, I've never seen anything in him that makes me think he'll be a great defender. I was very much surprised when Mourinho opted to sign him, and my assumption is that he'll not be the clear choice as one of the starting centre back paring.

Tonight was just not his game and people shouldn't judge him by this performance. I believe it might take him some time to find his feet and place at the club. He doesn't seem like the character who comes to a club and "take" his place right from the start - like Bailly did. But, in time, I've the belief that he'll come around and be a useful player for us - but that's about it.
 
lostcauz said:
That tackle today is something you'd expect a 18/19 year old to make, utterly abysmal decision making. He's hardly been tested but has shat the bed when called into action, I hate to think how he'll cope mentally in games that actually mean something with the intensity of the games being a lot bigger.
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Agree. He's a lost cauz.
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
Few of us had seen Bailly play, but most of us trust Jose when it comes to CBs. That's all there is to it really. Jose knows a good CB when he sees one, his track record in that department is as good as any manager in the game.
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Still has at least a couple of duds to his name there, Ben Haim and Boulahrouz spring to mind.

In any case now is not the time to be judging this guy.
 
wiz4231 said:
We didn't need to sign him, wasn't impressed by him before. I could understand if we went for Varane I'd be all for it but to add Victor doesn't make sense. Even if one of Jones or Smalling was to be sold this summer we would have been better off developing Tuanzebe or Fosu-Mensah at CB. Pointless.
Need Rojo back ASAP.
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If Tuanzebe or TFM were at CB and make mistakes, especially once the league starts then people would be whining about them.
 
To frame it in a more positive sounding sentence, if you don't count the goalkeepers he was the ninth best defender on our team today.
 
AP88 said:
With Bailly being so Kamikaze, he requires a calm, composed figure next to him; not sure Lindelof is that guy.

The amount of vitriol aimed at Michael Keane and the prospect of him being brought back looks naive, doesn't it? This kid was a better option apparently, despite most of the advocates of his signing likely never actually seen him play, nor him proving himself in a proper league.

Selling Jones or Smalling certainly isn't a viable option now; in the absence of a reliable pairing (or even just one complete defender, for that matter) numerous 'decent' variables is going to have to be the way forward for now.
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It's only been 3 pre-season games and this guy is already a flop....

Keane may have been a better short term signing but Lindelof definitely has a higher ceiling. We had the 2nd best defence in the league last season and we may add a proper DM to the squad so there's no need to panic buy in defence. Lindelof may struggle initially but he has a good chance of becoming a top defender so it's worth taking the chance on, rather than filling the squad with more decent but not brilliant defenders. Don't forget we have Rojo to come back who was a rock last season
 
You gotta give a new signing some time obviously.

As a cover and see if he will develop to be a good first choice, this signing makes sense.

Ability wise, I don't really see anything special he has that our current CBs don't so far.

But then again, we would be foolish to go in this season with the likes of jones and smalling who would be out for a few months together in a season.
 
wiz4231 said:
We didn't need to sign him, wasn't impressed by him before. I could understand if we went for Varane I'd be all for it but to add Victor doesn't make sense. Even if one of Jones or Smalling was to be sold this summer we would have been better off developing Tuanzebe or Fosu-Mensah at CB. Pointless.
Need Rojo back ASAP.
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Not many were convinced by Rojo at the start of his first season either
 
If there's 1 time you can justify kneejerk reactions then that is now!

What the feck have we bought, Jones outshined him :wenger:

He is our new donkey and I thought Jones wouldn't be outdone of that while at the club!

Trust me I took a cold shower before allowing myself anywhere near the internet!

Over and out!
 
Some players are overwhelmed by the sheer size of the club when they first arrive, and some never snap out of it. The pressure and expectation.

Hopefully he will find his feet before long and settle into life in England. He hasn't gotten the chance to put down roots yet.

Having moved to Portugal as a teenager, he's shown that he can adapt to life elsewhere. We need him to, otherwise he will become our Stones or Mangala.
 
Don't think he'll be first choice any time soon. All those posts about how he will be playing alongside Bailly seem premature.
 
A couple of pre season games and people already written him off....scary.
 
surf said:
Don't think he'll be first choice any time soon. All those posts about how he will be playing alongside Bailly seem premature.
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I doubt they will play together for now as well.

Mainly because both are pretty shit at defending high balls atm. It would be suicidal.
 
2cents said:
Still has at least a couple of duds to his name there, Ben Haim and Boulahrouz spring to mind.

In any case now is not the time to be judging this guy.
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I think every manager who's been around for a decade or so at the highest level will have a Ben Haim or two to his name (Prunier ring any bells? :lol:), but in general, Jose gets his CBs right more often than not.

Agreed, definitely not the time to judge.
 
AP88 said:
With Bailly being so Kamikaze, he requires a calm, composed figure next to him; not sure Lindelof is that guy.

The amount of vitriol aimed at Michael Keane and the prospect of him being brought back looks naive, doesn't it? This kid was a better option apparently, despite most of the advocates of his signing likely never actually seen him play, nor him proving himself in a proper league.

Selling Jones or Smalling certainly isn't a viable option now; in the absence of a reliable pairing (or even just one complete defender, for that matter) numerous 'decent' variables is going to have to be the way forward for now.
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Speaking of Keane, didn't he also make a howler against Madrid in the ICC a few years ago under Van Gaal?
 
Castia said:
A couple of pre season games and people already written him off....scary.
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Right? I remember Vidic being poor for a few months alongside Evra when they 1st arrived.. but, nah, he's a lost cause already.. :/
 
The difference between Lindelof as opposed to Smalling, Jones and Rojo is that at least those three showed signs of athleticism, an occasional moment of brilliance between the brain farts. Lindelof even looked lost against the Galaxy... bad positioning... bad footwork. Obviously Jose knows more about football than any of us so I'm going to watch with an open mind... but as of now he seems the Achilles heel in an otherwise strong group of defenders.
 
Saf94 said:
It's only been 3 pre-season games and this guy is already a flop....

Keane may have been a better short term signing but Lindelof definitely has a higher ceiling. We had the 2nd best defence in the league last season and we may add a proper DM to the squad so there's no need to panic buy in defence. Lindelof may struggle initially but he has a good chance of becoming a top defender so it's worth taking the chance on, rather than filling the squad with more decent but not brilliant defenders. Don't forget we have Rojo to come back who was a rock last season
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What are you basing that on with Lindelof? Mangala was a good defender in Portugal too.

Keane is roughly the same age, has already performed well in the Premier League and also looked decent for England too; he is stronger in the air, equally competent with his distribution, reads the game better from what I've seen.....your assumption that Lindelof is somehow going to be a better player is based on the fact he's foreign and little else.

I said months ago that I saw Keane as the perfect balancing act for Bailly, and I stand by that; I'm confident that by the end of the season, the general consensus will be that Keane is the better player.
 
I got nothing against Lindelof and hopefully he'll settle. But we were looking really good with Bailly and Rojo at the back. I'm still hoping that will be our first choice pairing. Every defender has a bad game in them every now and again so no need to panic just yet.
 
No one is (or should be) saying he's a lost cause, but all those who were scandalized at the prospect of him not being a dead sure starter at the beginning of the season were clearly wrong.
 
It's preseason, new to the league. He needs time. Back off for now.
 
PoTMS said:
Speaking of Keane, didn't he also make a howler against Madrid in the ICC a few years ago under Van Gaal?
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As a 21 year old with no top-level experience, not a 23 year old, £30m signing who's meant to be the missing piece of the puzzle defensively and become a mainstay of the United defence.

Ben Gibson, Keane, Calum Chambers and Alfie Mawson all proved to be very competent defenders last season; if United wanted to take a gamble, which Lindelof clearly is, one with a proven Premier League-compatible skill set would have made more sense.
 
The Lindelof Thread goes into Meltdown 2017/18.

Christ. Everyone chill your tits.
 
#07 said:
That's nonsense.

Stam was garbage when he first joined and people were open about it. Especially after Arsenal slapped us about in the Charity Shield. It's not new to criticise poor performances.

Ultimately Stam proved he had it upstairs to play for United. Many however don't make that adjustment. There's nothing about Lindelof that suggests he's gonna end up Vidic rather than Prunier.
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So you know him personally?

You always seem to know the minds of players. Are you Fred the red?
 
only on caf could we judge a player that has played friendles :lol:,
 
AP88 said:
What are you basing that on with Lindelof? Mangala was a good defender in Portugal too.

Keane is roughly the same age, has already performed well in the Premier League and also looked decent for England too; he is stronger in the air, equally competent with his distribution, reads the game better from what I've seen.....your assumption that Lindelof is somehow going to be a better player is based on the fact he's foreign and little else.

I said months ago that I saw Keane as the perfect balancing act for Bailly, and I stand by that; I'm confident that by the end of the season, the general consensus will be that Keane is the better player.
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It's based on the fact that Keane is 1 and a half years older than Lindelof and that Lindelof has already been playing at a high level with Benfica where he won the league and Keane was playing for Burnley. There's no guarantee that Lindelof succeeds but like I said he has a higher ceiling and there's a chance he'll become a top defender. It's not like Michael Keane was playing like Kompany at Burnley, when you play for a side like Burnley you get a lot of protection and it's a lot easier to defend. You say Mangala flopped but how many defenders from lower sides weren't good enough for the top teams? Lovren, Chambers, Caulker, Huth there's so many who did well at mid table clubs but not at the bigger ones.

Both are decent defenders I think but why go for Keane when we already have Bailly, Rojo and Jones who are all better/an equivalent level. Lindelof at least has a chance to be much better and improve our defence
 
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If Chicharito signs for West Ham, and comes up against Lindelof on day 1 of the Premier League, it's gonna be ugly. Chicharito will run him into the ground. Can see another penalty being conceded.
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Now you just speaking nonsense.

Funny how you have your favourites and have agenda against players even from the start.

You been hyping up Chicharito for ages despite him being not good enough for a top team. If he was good enough I doubt Leverkusen would sell him for just £15m.
 
Mourinho wanted a “ball playing” centerback and he sure got one!
 
Bojan11 said:
if he was good enough I doubt Leverkusen would sell him for just £15m.
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agree, of all the top teams that could pay his fee questions must be asked to why hes ended up at west ham and not a better class off team
 
First time i've seen him play so bad and i've been following his career for a couple years now. It seems he didn't have the smoothest adaptation so far but give him time he will be good for you.
 
Someone should do a video of his participation in today's game. Just to establish that crazy penalty as the exception to the rule. I hadn't noticed other errors before that.
 
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