Victor Gyökeres

[henrysquire]

If we're in for the likes of DCL then we really have no hope.

 

[greater wall]

Every year there is a striker who everyone wants to buy. This year it's Victor Gyökeres. He failed the last time in England.
Just because he is tearing it up in Portugal doesn't mean he is going to suddenly start dominating PL defenders.

 

[Marcus]

Every year there is a striker who everyone wants to buy. This year it's Victor Gyökeres. He failed the last time in England.
Just because he is tearing it up in Portugal doesn't mean he is going to suddenly start dominating PL defenders.

This

 

[paulscholes18]

Every year there is a striker who everyone wants to buy. This year it's Victor Gyökeres. He failed the last time in England.
Just because he is tearing it up in Portugal doesn't mean he is going to suddenly start dominating PL defenders.

His last two seasons at Coventry were good he scored 40 in 97. Both Salah and KDB bombed at Chelsea then went abroad and have arguably been the best two players in the league since their return.

 

[JE-365]

Calvert Lewin and Delap as our striker options are not idealistic. But we’re not that good at the moment that we can attract big striker names and those two are more PL proven and have done more in PL than Hojlund and Zirkzee so far.

Im willing to accept the sad time and the sad reality. I would take the positive that Calvert Lewin and Delap are better striker than what we got, be considered as massive improvement, and will also improve our physicality.

 

[Bojan11]

His last two seasons at Coventry were good he scored 40 in 97. Both Salah and KDB bombed at Chelsea then went abroad and have arguably been the best two players in the league since their return.

Salah and KDB didn’t bomb at Chelsea. Mourinho never gave them a chance

 

[BarryWinks]

I’ll take Delap. I like Delap.

 

[sullydnl]

His last two seasons at Coventry were good he scored 40 in 97. Both Salah and KDB bombed at Chelsea then went abroad and have arguably been the best two players in the league since their return.

His best goal rate at coventry was 0.47 goals per 90. To put that into context, someone like Adam Armstrong notched 0.73 in his best Championship season, and 0.50 in his second best.

Nothing about Gyokeres' rate of returns in the Championship suggests he's good enough. If we sign him based on goal returns, it's entirely centred around what he's done since he arrived in Portugal.

 

[andersj]

His best goal rate at coventry was 0.47 goals per 90. To put that into context, someone like Adam Armstrong notched 0.73 in his best Championship season, and 0.50 in his second best.

Nothing about Gyokeres' rate of returns in the Championship suggests he's good enough. If we sign him based on goal returns, it's entirely centred around what he's done since he arrived in Portugal.

His underlying stats was quite similar to Watkins and Toney.

 

[golden_blunder]

Gyokeres would be mental to come here, even if we could afford him. We don't have the first xi never mind a squad suited for amorim football. Gyokeres scored a lot of cutbacks and taps in for sporting under amorim, because the system worked and got the best out of him.

He would struggle at Utd until we had the right players in for amorim system to work.

A point I was making previously. We barely do any cutbacks. Most of Sportings goals came from cutbacks

 

[Overhaul FC]

I'd be sick if we were interested in Delap. He plays like a Sunday League thug. Elbows in the back of defenders and off the ball fouls.

He's got the most fouls by a striker for a reason. He's a coward of a cnut.

(One day I'll say what I really feel about him)

 

[massey]

If we're in for the likes of DCL then we really have no hope.

We are more likely to get acl atm

 

[V.O.]

I'd be sick if we were interested in Delap. He plays like a Sunday League thug. Elbows in the back of defenders and off the ball fouls.

He's got the most fouls by a striker for a reason. He's a coward of a cnut.

(One day I'll say what I really feel about him)

Yeah, he does seem like he's going to be the next Ashley Barnes more than he's going to be the next Shearer.

 

[2 man midfield]

Just missed an absolute sitter in injury time to win the match. Bottler, do not want

 

[Bwuk]

I'd be sick if we were interested in Delap. He plays like a Sunday League thug. Elbows in the back of defenders and off the ball fouls.

He's got the most fouls by a striker for a reason. He's a coward of a cnut.

(One day I'll say what I really feel about him)

It’s be nice to not have a CF who just gets bullied.

 

[Deco10Legend]

He is not well physically. Sporting are paying the price for not rotating.
That club has been hit by the plague of injuries and are likely to lose the title.

 

[Giggsyking]

Every year there is a striker who everyone wants to buy. This year it's Victor Gyökeres. He failed the last time in England.
Just because he is tearing it up in Portugal doesn't mean he is going to suddenly start dominating PL defenders.

Mohammed Salah.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

I'd be sick if we were interested in Delap. He plays like a Sunday League thug. Elbows in the back of defenders and off the ball fouls.

He's got the most fouls by a striker for a reason. He's a coward of a cnut.

(One day I'll say what I really feel about him)

All top strikers have a bit of nastiness about them.
I’m not saying Delap is a top striker by the way, but Shearer, Van Nistelrooy were all dirty horrible bastards to play against.

 

[Wrecking ralf]

His last two seasons at Coventry were good he scored 40 in 97. Both Salah and KDB bombed at Chelsea then went abroad and have arguably been the best two players in the league since their return.

For anyone wondering about his time at Coventry

 

[Overhaul FC]

It’s be nice to not have a CF who just gets bullied.

That's instantly better than Hojlund but aim higher. Go watch Cavani or RVP goals for us again.

These guys can score with one touch or two touches before a defender or keeper even know what's happening.

Rooney and Van Nistelrooy were the most physical strikers I've seen but they were still lethal finishers. I think it's the finishing that matters the most. We need a skilled finisher at this club.

Gyokeres is an emphatic finisher that I could get behind. Good all round game and he's about as polished of a striker that we can afford to go all out on.

Kane was a United striker but our chance went when he signed that ridiculous long term contract with Spurs, his brother the agent really screwed him over at that juncture.

I want us to be linked with a walking goal. A clinical finisher.

 

[Garethw]

If we're in for the likes of DCL then we really have no hope.

I’d rather we give one of the academy lads a chance than sign that crock.

 

[MCDC]

That's instantly better than Hojlund but aim higher. Go watch Cavani or RVP goals for us again.

These guys can score with one touch or two touches before a defender or keeper even know what's happening.

Rooney and Van Nistelrooy were the most physical strikers I've seen but they were still lethal finishers. I think it's the finishing that matters the most. We need a skilled finisher at this club.

Gyokeres is an emphatic finisher that I could get behind. Good all round game and he's about as polished of a striker that we can afford to go all out on.

Kane was a United striker but our chance went when he signed that ridiculous long term contract with Spurs, his brother the agent really screwed him over at that juncture.

I want us to be linked with a walking goal. A clinical finisher.

I think we have to be realistic, I think Gyokeres is the real deal, would elevate our ST and goals on his own.

The main problems are:

1 - We are not competing in the CL or even EL next season.
2 - Our finances are shocking, so can we afford to pay top dollar.
3 - At this stage of his career would he want to join a rebuild.

We have to be realistic about who we can sign, looking at players like Delap who have shown promise in the PL and could be signed for a bargain from relegated teams is something we are going to have to do, worked out well for Liverpool.

I think there are a few players in the bottom 3 teams that improve us, this is the sad state of where we are at atm.

 

[Tallis]

I am sure Gyokeres will be happy to join us in 2031 when his next contract is expiring. Look forward to welcoming him then.

 

[DJ_21]

I am sure Gyokeres will be happy to join us in 2031 when his next contract is expiring. Look forward to welcoming him then.

Sounds about right when he’s over 35. We’re like a retiring home for ST

 

[DJ_21]

I think we have to be realistic, I think Gyokeres is the real deal, would elevate our ST and goals on his own.

The main problems are:

1 - We are not competing in the CL or even EL next season.
2 - Our finances are shocking, so can we afford to pay top dollar.
3 - At this stage of his career would he want to join a rebuild.

We have to be realistic about who we can sign, looking at players like Delap who have shown promise in the PL and could be signed for a bargain from relegated teams is something we are going to have to do, worked out well for Liverpool.

I think there are a few players in the bottom 3 teams that improve us, this is the sad state of where we are at atm.

We have to sign Dibling from Southampton. He’d improve us massively in the number 10 role. I’d rather wolves go down and we go in for Cunha on the cheap as he’d be desperate to leave and they’d need the money. You’re right that there’s players in the bottom 3 that improve us. I think Delap would have similar season to Hojlund. I like Hutchinson from them though.

 

[DJ_21]

Gyokeres would be mental to come here, even if we could afford him. We don't have the first xi never mind a squad suited for amorim football. Gyokeres scored a lot of cutbacks and taps in for sporting under amorim, because the system worked and got the best out of him.

He would struggle at Utd until we had the right players in for amorim system to work.

He’s also very powerful though and a few of his goals. Have been runs in behind. The goals he scored against city in the CL. He’s also very clinical so any chance that falls to him in the box he probably puts it away

 

[MCDC]

We have to sign Dibling from Southampton. He’d improve us massively in the number 10 role. I’d rather wolves go down and we go in for Cunha on the cheap as he’d be desperate to leave and they’d need the money. You’re right that there’s players in the bottom 3 that improve us. I think Delap would have similar season to Hojlund. I like Hutchinson from them though.

Completely agree on Dibling think he is a top talent.

I don't think Wolves are going down, but would be a great signing, really rate Hutchinson, kept an eye on him since Amorim's first game, not seen any links to him unfortunately.

He could be but I think he is more physically dominant than Hojlund, I do like Hojlund but the question is for the price and lack of development is it worth continuing.

 

[Steve 007]

Gyorkeres is the man we need.
I think we need two though. I’d take Cunha.
It looks like we’ll get 20m for Sancho, £40m for Rashford and probably around £20 for Anthony maybe more if he can keep performing.

We are going to lose a huge amount of wages there too. Rashford should never have got that contract and Sancho is reportedly on similar. If we could also somehow get rid of Casimeiro we’d be laughing. That would be close to a million quid a week for just those three.

Rashford will be pure profit. I don’t think our finances are as bad as we are being told so I do expect us to spend £200 million on the summer. I think Inoes are doing four things:

1. Getting us PSR compliant.

2. Making all clubs think we are skint to get rid of the Utd tax.

3. Getting rid of some seriously toxic dead wood players who will never ever do it in Utd shirt.

4. Using our finances to restructure the business then they can say because we did that (ticket prices, redundancies et..) we were able to compete in the market and do this.

Failure for Inoes is not an option. He needs it to be a success.

 

[DJ_21]

Completely agree on Dibling think he is a top talent.

I don't think Wolves are going down, but would be a great signing, really rate Hutchinson, kept an eye on him since Amorim's first game, not seen any links to him unfortunately.

He could be but I think he is more physically dominant than Hojlund, I do like Hojlund but the question is for the price and lack of development is it worth continuing.

Would delap not come under the same circumstances? Lack of development etc. I think we need a goal machine in there prime… a 25-27 year old ST. We really can’t afford to be going for project STs which is obviously our new way of working under INEOS. There targeting young potential so we can make profits on there sales rather than wasting money. That’s alright but not in a major position like ST where you need someone with experience.

 

[Kinsella]

Would delap not come under the same circumstances? Lack of development etc. I think we need a goal machine in there prime… a 25-27 year old ST. We really can’t afford to be going for project STs which is obviously our new way of working under INEOS. There targeting young potential so we can make profits on there sales rather than wasting money. That’s alright but not in a major position like ST where you need someone with experience.

Why would a goal machine be attracted to go to United right now?

 

[DJ_21]

Why would a goal machine be attracted to go to United right now?

Because when you play for sporting. United is a massive step up no matter how bad we are. That’s the reason Amorim didn’t wait until the summer and jumped straight away.

 

[Overhaul FC]

I think we have to be realistic, I think Gyokeres is the real deal, would elevate our ST and goals on his own.

The main problems are:

1 - We are not competing in the CL or even EL next season.
2 - Our finances are shocking, so can we afford to pay top dollar.
3 - At this stage of his career would he want to join a rebuild.

We have to be realistic about who we can sign, looking at players like Delap who have shown promise in the PL and could be signed for a bargain from relegated teams is something we are going to have to do, worked out well for Liverpool.

I think there are a few players in the bottom 3 teams that improve us, this is the sad state of where we are at atm.

Hopefully this comment marks the sentiment bottom.

Buying players from clubs from the 18th, 19th and 20th positions, and we're 15th ourselves.

We should give football operations back to the Glazers!

 

[Kinsella]

Because when you play for sporting. United is a massive step up no matter how bad we are. That’s the reason Amorim didn’t wait until the summer and jumped straight away.

I get that, but why would he or any other ‘goal machine’ move to United this summer if Arsenal or Chelsea for example are in for them too?

The only way I can see it is if United have a free run for him, together with his familiarity with Amorim.

 

[DJ_21]

I get that, but why would he or any other ‘goal machine’ move to United this summer if Arsenal or Chelsea for example are in for them too?

The only way I can see it is if United have a free run for him, together with his familiarity with Amorim.

His relationship with Amorim could help us win his signature but it all depends if he’s one of them players that opts to play in the CL next season.

 

[DJ_21]

Hopefully this comment marks the sentiment bottom.

Buying players from clubs from the 18th, 19th and 20th positions, and we're 15th ourselves.

We should give football operations back to the Glazers!

You can pick up some real gems from relegated teams. Didn’t Liverpool sign Robertson from a championship team hull? And made him one of the best FBs in the world.

 

[kanobbk]

Hopefully this comment marks the sentiment bottom.

Buying players from clubs from the 18th, 19th and 20th positions, and we're 15th ourselves.

We should give football operations back to the Glazers!

This is where fans struggle to see the real truth because of their red tinted glasses.

We have one of the worst squads in the league, there is no question or debate. We are in this position because of the levels of 'talent' that we have in each position and in the depth of each position. It's absolutely diabolical. There are many fans that won't want to accept this, but it's true.

Every squad of players ahead of us in the table, is better than ours bar a few. It's a simple as that. You may need to remove the red tinted glass that are welded to your face to see it, but once you do, supporting this team will become a lot easier, because that way you won't be so surprised when our CR7 boxer wearing 'winger' misses a complete sitter, or completely ignores his LWB running on the overlap EVERY single time, or when our £50m 'UCL Final' keeper makes another unorthodox save and pushes the ball directly into the middle of the box for no apparent reason etc. Once you begin to understand that these players are doing these things consistently, and then finally swallow the pill that it's because they're not good enough, only then will you truly understand that we are 15th in the league because the squad of players is at the level of 15th in the league.

If you don't think the players that I'll list below, are better than what we have on hand then I don't know what to tell you...

Wolves: Ait Nouri, Cunha, Semedo, Hwang Hee-Chan, Bellegarde

West Ham: Bowen, Kudus, Kilman, Areola, Summerville, JWP

Ipswich: Delap, Omari (questionable), Greaves

Leicester: El Khannouss, Kristiansen, Buananotte, Fatawu

Soton: Dibbling, Sulemana

All of those players above have heart, passion, desire, motivation and everything else that's needed in a squad to help improve. Our squad lacks all of these things, along with basic talent. It would be an excellent strategy to focus some of the top talents in the relegated teams, as there are some diamonds in the rough there. Fatawu also used to play under Amorim FYI.

 

[croadyman]

See that apparently reliable Turkish source says PSG and us have enquired about Osimhen salary demands and contract, so he will be off to Paris in the summer

 

[MCDC]

Hopefully this comment marks the sentiment bottom.

Buying players from clubs from the 18th, 19th and 20th positions, and we're 15th ourselves.

We should give football operations back to the Glazers!

Ah yes the arrogant we are Manchester United comment.

Are we too good to look at the bottom 3? Didn’t realise we were competing for titles.

As another poster explained to you there are far better players in those relegated teams that our first 11.

We are trying to climb the table and become a Top 4, Title contenders, what WC player is gonna look at United and go I want a bit of that?

We have to be realistic, by signing players who improve us for the right price are all that matters.

Ah yes give control to the owners who have spent 2 billion and nearly bankrupted us.

Sign me back up for that ride.

Did I also forget to mention we signed a certain Roy Keane, for a world record transfer fee from a relegated Nottingham Forest fresh of our first PL title.

 

[Steve 007]

Hopefully this comment marks the sentiment bottom.

Buying players from clubs from the 18th, 19th and 20th positions, and we're 15th ourselves.

We should give football operations back to the Glazers!

It’s not Inoes who put us in this mess.

The glazers bought the majority of this squad bar our defenders.

The Glazers put us in debt by buying us.

The Glazers took billions in dividends whilst not paying off the debt.

They bought Anthony, Casimeiro, Hojilund, Onana, Sancho.

They gave out the massive contracts.

It’s Inoes who are taking the flack but this has been coming for years.

 

[NZT-One]

I don’t think our finances are as bad as we are being told so I do expect us to spend £200 million on the summer. I think Inoes are doing four things:

That must be this ominous copium people often talk about, right?