Venezuela – socialist paradise on the verge of collapse
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From Maduro's point of view is understandable. How you will accept this from the country that allegedly want to send 5.000 troops to invade you. Hopefully they can sneak this help through other parts of the border. Hopefully people turns against the cnut by themselves
I really feel for the Venezuelans. Stuck between a despot who oppresses them and the US who wants to open the country up to corporations and further destabilisation.
axis of evil getting the gang back together
Tbh, we can't verify these tweets. Pompeo is a bastard.
That was the first thing I thought, a new axis of evil. Surprised they didn’t get that into the SOTU address Tuesday night.
Just can’t see an overwhelmingly Roman Catholic country / government & a Shi’a terror group getting in bed together. Cubans help control the security apparatus in Venezuela, but that doesn’t move the needle to terrorism that much.
Seems like utter horseshit from that thumper.
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Situation is not sustainable. 8 of each 10 dollars that entered in venezuela came from EEUU, sanctions don't allow to buy venezuelan oil and other products from it. EEUU cut access to venezuela to the dollar.
Basically, soon is to be expected gas shortages (the irony being the first oil reserve in the world) what would mean no transportation (no food), energy shortages. Meanwhile population knows that there is humanitarian aid at the borders that Maduro doesn't allow in
IN some areas they are already rationing gas, Some sources says that they only have 12 days worth of gas in their reserves for the country
One of my friends stocked pilled for a month
Is just wait and see
Basically, soon is to be expected gas shortages (the irony being the first oil reserve in the world) what would mean no transportation (no food), energy shortages. Meanwhile population knows that there is humanitarian aid at the borders that Maduro doesn't allow in
IN some areas they are already rationing gas, Some sources says that they only have 12 days worth of gas in their reserves for the country
One of my friends stocked pilled for a month
Is just wait and see
Jeremy and company have been a bit quiet on this subject recently.
Do people still want Labour as the new government with this idiot in charge backed up Tom Watson and McDonell?
And just look at the comments made by the lovely Ms Abbot. God help us if he ever does get into No.10.
https://reaction.life/ten-times-corbynistas-praised-chavez-maduros-venezuela/
Do people still want Labour as the new government with this idiot in charge backed up Tom Watson and McDonell?
And just look at the comments made by the lovely Ms Abbot. God help us if he ever does get into No.10.
https://reaction.life/ten-times-corbynistas-praised-chavez-maduros-venezuela/
You could just google Corbyn and Venezuela. Labour were talking about Venezuela literally this week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47143788
Also Tom Watson and Corbyn are from totally different parts of the party.
Tbh Chavez was doing a lot of good for Venezuela at the time most of these commentators were made.
I’d be more concerned about the current government getting chummy with the terrorist-backing Saudi regime, and selling them weapons that have killed scores of civilians in Yemen and put millions at risk of starvation. Heck they even tried to take the country to war with Assad.
I was thinking that yesterday. All that humanitarian aid could be well used in Yemen that kids are dying of hunger by the thousands. But hey, USA is in Venezuela for humanitarian reasons
"Venezuela crisis: A health system in a state of collapse
President Nicolas Maduro promised Venezuelans free medical treatment for all - but hospitals are now only able to offer a bed and little else.
Hospital staff and families of patients say the health service has crumbled, neglected by the government over the last five years.
Now there is barely running water, let alone enough medicines, as the BBC's Orla Guerin reports."
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-l...crisis-a-health-system-in-a-state-of-collapse
President Nicolas Maduro promised Venezuelans free medical treatment for all - but hospitals are now only able to offer a bed and little else.
Hospital staff and families of patients say the health service has crumbled, neglected by the government over the last five years.
Now there is barely running water, let alone enough medicines, as the BBC's Orla Guerin reports."
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-l...crisis-a-health-system-in-a-state-of-collapse
ELLIOTT ABRAMS, TRUMP’S PICK TO BRING “DEMOCRACY” TO VENEZUELA, HAS SPENT HIS LIFE CRUSHING DEMOCRACY
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/30/elliott-abrams-venezuela-coup/
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/30/elliott-abrams-venezuela-coup/
In somewhat the same vein, we need Jack Kevorkian immediately installed as White House Physician.
"Authorizing"
It may well be high time to get Maduro out, but to "authorize" a foreign government to invade after failing to coup yourself to the top is also questionable.
had a bit of a "I'll kill everyone if it means saving a single life!" to it
Off topic, but I have a lot of respect for the late Dr Jack Kevorkian. He helped a lot of terminal patients (cancer, etc) terminate their extreme suffering. Thanks to his efforts (and the efforts of countless other people of course) assisted suicide is now legal in California.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United_States
https://www.deathwithdignity.org/death-with-dignity-california-history/
Oregon legalized it earlier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Maynard
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/opinion/maynard-assisted-suicide-cancer-dignity/index.html
"Hawaii has become the seventh state to legalize medically assisted suicide. Hawaii Governor David Ige signed the bill into law in Honolulu on Thursday, April 5, 2018. The law took effect on January 1, 2019."
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I agree with every point you make, he certainly helped scores of people.
There’s an HBO movie about Kevorkian, Pacino plays him. ‘You Don’t Know Jack’ is the title, I believe.
Check out the link posted about how the western media are complicit in re-telling a misleading story.
Sounds familiar though. The run up to the Iraq war, mark 2 (2003) was similar. No independent thought, just a parroting of the US administration’s statements, without a critical view. At least from the US based media.
Only in the most narrow sense of 'doing a lot of good'. He was doing the political equivalent of sawing down the tree everyone was living in, and giving everyone free furniture made from the wood.
My point was the context of the time those quotes were made. The Corbyn critics make out as if he’s been singing the government’s praises during recent events.
It would be like condemning the British government for praising Assad in the past as being as a bulwark against the war on terror, remaining ignorant on the context and timeframes. It’s disingenuous at best.
actually supporting bad people only counts when communists do it so shut up
Corbyns critics are bashing Jezza for not saying very much about Venezuela at all, despite the critical humanitarian situation there and his previous enthusiasm for mouthing off about the place. Why so quiet now do you think?
It's not Corbyn fault if you can't use google.
Chavez got lots of criticism at the time for unsustainable policies but not from Corbyn. His
enthusiastic support is more evidence of bad, ideologically distorted judgement.
https://www.ft.com/content/83424336-2a29-11e9-88a4-c32129756dd8
It's what he doesnt say that reveals him.
It's a paywall I can't see what it says
Also I posted this last week(It's a few post up on this page) when someone else moaned about Corbyn been "slient"
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Feels reflective of a lot of attitudes about this at the moment.
Like I said, there’s a difference between praising someone for enacting national policies they deem to be beneficial for the most vulnerable in society compared to a government that likes to arm a heinous medieval state so they can kill scores of Yemeni civilians and covertly back Islamic extremist factions.
That's all and well, but shows his lack of understanding. The narrative, that Chavez was the good guy and things turned bad with Maduro and a collapsing oil price, is false. There was essentially no sustainable economic development under Chavez. Consumption increased due to increased income from rising commodity prices, but the country didn't develop any industry, that would boost gdp/productivity. On the contrary, he managed to destroy the little there was.
There seem to be many ways to skin the cat. China, India, Peru or Ethiopia (+another 20 countries) do things in their unique way to grow their economy. For all the differences in strategies to develop emerging markets, one has to accept globalization and show the willingness to integrate at least some important sectors into global markets. Countries that reject this, will never have long-term success, because they will not develop a large middle class.
Not in hindsight but during the boom of the 00s, enough people pointed out that Venezuela is on a bad path. They were on a bad path, because they didn't invest their wealth to build something, but used it for consumption. That was out there for everyone to see. If you live by ressource rents, you die by ressource rents. Nobody would say a bad thing about Chavez, if would have turned Venezuela into Norway. His policies weren't designed to do that.