Using AI to write posts

OverratedOpinion said:
There are a few plausible scenarios for how the post by "Mr Wick" might have been influenced by ChatGPT or another AI model:

1. Direct Copy-Paste from ChatGPT: "Mr Wick" could have simply asked ChatGPT or another AI model to write a post about the topic, then copied and pasted it directly onto the forum without much or any modification. This is common for users who want quick responses or well-structured arguments without the need to draft themselves.

2. AI-assisted Editing: "Mr Wick" might have initially drafted the post himself, then used ChatGPT or another AI tool to refine or "tidy up" the writing. The AI could have enhanced the post by improving grammar, style, or clarity while retaining the core content or argument.

3. AI-generated Inspiration: Another possibility is that "Mr Wick" used ChatGPT to brainstorm ideas or get inspiration for his post. He may have then written the post himself but closely followed suggestions or phrasing provided by the AI, resulting in similarities to AI-generated text.

4. Hybrid Approach: He could have taken parts of his original post and merged them with sections generated by ChatGPT. This would create a blend of his writing style and AI-produced content, making it less clear where the AI’s influence starts and ends.

In all these cases, the post would have varying degrees of AI involvement, ranging from complete reliance on the tool to more subtle enhancements or inspiration.
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Mr. Wick said:
I directly speak to it and give it my thoughts and ideas, which in turn it writes my thoughts into cohesive text with better grammar. I use Chatgpt 4o and Claude. You should try it, its a life saver. Matter of fact, im feeling the ick right now typing this myself.


To Cheimoon - I apologize if you find it lifeless, I love the freedom it gives me. I embrace it and the wonders it can do are quite amazing.

You should give it a chance, look into “1000x AI”. I am a certified AI specialist and use AI daily - not to show off, but I am running 3 businesses that I have opened in the last 6 months using AI, making between 15k - 25k already for each business. It might not seem like a lot, but like I said it has only been 6 months and they are my part time gigs all thanks to learning the correct prompts.

Look into it, it might just change your life. I dont want to create a big scene about it, just do your own research!
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100% a bot shilling for big AI.
 
Mr. Wick said:
I directly speak to it and give it my thoughts and ideas, which in turn it writes my thoughts into cohesive text with better grammar. I use Chatgpt 4o and Claude. You should try it, its a life saver. Matter of fact, im feeling the ick right now typing this myself.


To Cheimoon - I apologize if you find it lifeless, I love the freedom it gives me. I embrace it and the wonders it can do are quite amazing.

You should give it a chance, look into “1000x AI”. I am a certified AI specialist and use AI daily - not to show off, but I am running 3 businesses that I have opened in the last 6 months using AI, making between 15k - 25k already for each business. It might not seem like a lot, but like I said it has only been 6 months and they are my part time gigs all thanks to learning the correct prompts.

Look into it, it might just change your life. I dont want to create a big scene about it, just do your own research!
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I have absolutely no interest in using AI for writing and see no need for my own work or hobbies, so let's put that aside. I'm rather wondering what's the value-add for you. The above looks like normal text, so either you are perfectly capable of writing good text yourself or you edited the AI text this time. Contrast that with this:
Mr. Wick said:
  1. Points Deduction: City could have points deducted, which would affect their standing in the Premier League and potentially derail their title ambitions.
  2. Expulsion from Competitions: There's a possibility that City could be expelled from the Premier League or even other domestic and European competitions like the FA Cup, EFL Cup, and Champions League.
  3. Stripping of Titles: The Premier League could revoke some of the titles City won during the period under investigation.
  4. Financial Penalties: Although City’s ownership is wealthy, they could face hefty fines. However, financial penalties may not significantly impact the club's operations due to their strong backing. (this in my opinion would be a total failure and discredit any rules)
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It's dull, lifeless, and repetitive. Yes, I can see how AI can give you ideas or find things you missed, but I don't see how this is something you'd like to submit under your own name.

Also, as @Mr Pigeon said, there is no way universities or other levels of education allow entirely AI-generated text. The students' own ideas and an understanding of writing/composition have to come through, otherwise what's the point of giving the assignment?
 
Withnail said:
You can keep using it but nobody's going to read it unfortunately and you won't get many replies other than people pointing out it's chatgpt. The issue is people won't trust these are your actual thoughts, and as @Cheimoon said it gives no insight into your personality or character, so people will be unlikely to bother engaging.

EDIT: Also I can't speak for the mods/scouts, obviously, but I can't see them giving out a huge amount of likes for AI generated content so becoming a full member could be challenging
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I don't think we have 'policy' for it yet, but I won't give likes for It, since AI text tells me next to nothing about the poster.
 
Cheimoon said:
I don't think we have 'policy' for it yet, but I won't give likes for It, since AI text tells me next to nothing about the poster.
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Yes please. The will to live drains out of me when I get halfway through someone's second sentence and realise it's all just paragraphs of LLM drivel.
 
Berbaclass said:
Is it that much of a big deal?
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If I'm speaking to someone I want to know it's their actual opinion and the way people write is often funny, witty, engaging or sometimes plain weird but that's the beauty of individuality. Some dry AI generated text isn't something I have any interest engaging with.
 
Mr. Wick said:
I directly speak to it and give it my thoughts and ideas, which in turn it writes my thoughts into cohesive text with better grammar. I use Chatgpt 4o and Claude. You should try it, its a life saver. Matter of fact, im feeling the ick right now typing this myself.


To Cheimoon - I apologize if you find it lifeless, I love the freedom it gives me. I embrace it and the wonders it can do are quite amazing.

You should give it a chance, look into “1000x AI”. I am a certified AI specialist and use AI daily - not to show off, but I am running 3 businesses that I have opened in the last 6 months using AI, making between 15k - 25k already for each business. It might not seem like a lot, but like I said it has only been 6 months and they are my part time gigs all thanks to learning the correct prompts.

Look into it, it might just change your life. I dont want to create a big scene about it, just do your own research!
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I use ChatGPT as part of my everyday work as well, so don’t get too sanctimonious about this.

You are right, you are well within your rights to use whatever tools you want. Nobody is restricting your rights.

At the same time, like so many other fellas have pointed out, we come here for the social engagement, banter and generally some form of entertainment. Part of this is allowing your unique personality, POV and perspectives to shine thru in the way you write your posts. That’s why if I shit on Amadeus or LuckyScout many other posters will know what I’m talking about, contributing to some insider joke.

If all you are posting is something that anyone can get from writing their own prompts, then all the engagement you get is just people pointing out that you are writing using GPT. Leave that shit to work and studies, and be the real you here.
 
Withnail said:
If I'm speaking to someone I want to know it's their actual opinion and the way people write is often funny, witty, engaging or sometimes plain weird but that's the beauty of individuality. Some dry AI generated text isn't something I have any interest engaging with.
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Exactly. It's called human interaction for a reason.
 
my views on the matter are;
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TBF it's kind of pointless.

Anyone can download ChatGPT and ask it any questions that they want to hear what AI has to say about it.

As @Withnail said most people will just ignore it. Who knows if they are your thoughts and if I wanted to read AI I'd ask it myself.
 
Mr. Wick said:
I directly speak to it and give it my thoughts and ideas, which in turn it writes my thoughts into cohesive text with better grammar. I use Chatgpt 4o and Claude. You should try it, its a life saver. Matter of fact, im feeling the ick right now typing this myself.


To Cheimoon - I apologize if you find it lifeless, I love the freedom it gives me. I embrace it and the wonders it can do are quite amazing.

You should give it a chance, look into “1000x AI”. I am a certified AI specialist and use AI daily - not to show off, but I am running 3 businesses that I have opened in the last 6 months using AI, making between 15k - 25k already for each business. It might not seem like a lot, but like I said it has only been 6 months and they are my part time gigs all thanks to learning the correct prompts.

Look into it, it might just change your life. I dont want to create a big scene about it, just do your own research!
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Pfft I won a £100 Amazon gift card for leaving a review on a toaster. Doesn't mean I'm gonna start posting like Alexa.
 
SilentWitness said:
Sorry but this should be actively discouraged.
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Why are you sorry? It's a discussion forum, seriously using AI here is idiotic beyond belief. The only case where it makes sense if we are talking about an OP that is strictly informative and even then it's irritating. Many blogs and websites are now almost exclusively using AI generated articles and the quality is clearly worse, there is zero insight, zero personality and you can often spot strange structures. Today I stumbled on an article written in french that randomly used "but" instead of "mais".
 
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I can't tell if the fear of AI here is banter or not, but the only reason he's been caught out is because it came off too obvious.
 
Red Comet said:
I use ChatGPT as part of my everyday work as well, so don’t get too sanctimonious about this.

You are right, you are well within your rights to use whatever tools you want. Nobody is restricting your rights.

At the same time, like so many other fellas have pointed out, we come here for the social engagement, banter and generally some form of entertainment. Part of this is allowing your unique personality, POV and perspectives to shine thru in the way you write your posts. That’s why if I shit on Amadeus or LuckyScout many other posters will know what I’m talking about, contributing to some insider joke.

If all you are posting is something that anyone can get from writing their own prompts, then all the engagement you get is just people pointing out that you are writing using GPT. Leave that shit to work and studies, and be the real you here.
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I agree with all of this, except I'd say that writing doesn't come easy to everyone, due to disabilities or neurodiversity or otherwise. AI can really help those people.
JPRouve said:
Why are you sorry? It's a discussion forum, seriously using AI here is idiotic beyond belief. The only case where it makes sense if we are talking about an OP that is strictly informative and even then it's irritating. Many blogs and websites are now almost exclusively using AI generated articles and the quality is clearly worse, there is zero insight, zero personality and you can often spot strange structures. Today I stumbled on an article written in french that randomly used "but" instead of "mais".
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It's also funny in Canada, cause those AIs are generally set to European French and you get all kinds of little details that don't work over here. Anglos don't know those, so then you get an agenda talking about the petit-déjeuner and déjeuner, which should be déjeuner and dîner over here.
OverratedOpinion said:
From what I remember it was full of extremely astute observations about how important an even spread of heating elements are in a good toaster.

I believe that answers your question :cool:
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I hope you used a different username then. Can't be found lying to Amazon customers!
 
mu4c_20le said:
I can't tell if the fear of AI here is banter or not, but the only reason he's been caught out is because it came off too obvious.
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Why do you think it's a fear of AI?
 
mu4c_20le said:
I can't tell if the fear of AI here is banter or not, but the only reason he's been caught out is because it came off too obvious.
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There is no fear of AI. It's just pointless on a discussion forum and its widespread use will make a forum pointless because the added value is the personality of each members and the way they subjectively see things and share their thoughts.
 
Cheimoon said:
Why do you think it's a fear of AI?
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JPRouve said:
There is no fear of AI. It's just pointless on a discussion forum and its widespread use will make a forum pointless because the added value is the personality of each members and the way they subjectively see things and share their thoughts.
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Because a strong reaction is usually the result of fear and apprehension. I agree with the one mod who said it should be actively discouraged, and I liked that some posters actually offered a reason as to why it should be. However. What if a person is paraplegic, and could only speak a few words into a prompt? And it takes them a great effort to make a long post, having to go back and correct mistakes, etc. Seems harsh to ban someone just for using a tool.
 
mu4c_20le said:
Because a strong reaction is usually the result of fear and apprehension. I agree with the one mod who said it should be actively discouraged, and I liked that some posters actually offered a reason as to why it should be. However. What if a person is paraplegic, and could only speak a few words into a prompt? And it takes them a great effort to make a long post, having to go back and correct mistakes, etc. Seems harsh to ban someone just for using a tool.
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Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I'm the one who (unintentionally) started this whole debate, and I agree with all of these point. I think I actually also already covered them in the course of my posts on the topic. For me, it's really a style thing, and it seems to me that's what most think here.

But yeah, I guess there might be some for whom this is attached to a larger fear of AI.
 
JPRouve said:
Why are you sorry? It's a discussion forum, seriously using AI here is idiotic beyond belief. The only case where it makes sense if we are talking about an OP that is strictly informative and even then it's irritating. Many blogs and websites are now almost exclusively using AI generated articles and the quality is clearly worse, there is zero insight, zero personality and you can often spot strange structures. Today I stumbled on an article written in french that randomly used "but" instead of "mais".
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As I can understand if you have poor English speaking skills but want to contribute, but yes, you are right that they take personality completely out of a forum and any posts which include AI (that's not an obvious piss take) should be deleted/not approved.
 
As AI gets smarter it's going to be hard to know if all post is written by AI or it has been done by humans
 
mu4c_20le said:
Because a strong reaction is usually the result of fear and apprehension. I agree with the one mod who said it should be actively discouraged, and I liked that some posters actually offered a reason as to why it should be. However. What if a person is paraplegic, and could only speak a few words into a prompt? And it takes them a great effort to make a long post, having to go back and correct mistakes, etc. Seems harsh to ban someone just for using a tool.
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And the example that you gave doesn't lead to widespread use of chatgpt. And it doesn't lead to generic paragraphs.
 
Mr. Wick said:
I directly speak to it and give it my thoughts and ideas, which in turn it writes my thoughts into cohesive text with better grammar. I use Chatgpt 4o and Claude. You should try it, its a life saver. Matter of fact, im feeling the ick right now typing this myself.


To Cheimoon - I apologize if you find it lifeless, I love the freedom it gives me. I embrace it and the wonders it can do are quite amazing.

You should give it a chance, look into “1000x AI”. I am a certified AI specialist and use AI daily - not to show off, but I am running 3 businesses that I have opened in the last 6 months using AI, making between 15k - 25k already for each business. It might not seem like a lot, but like I said it has only been 6 months and they are my part time gigs all thanks to learning the correct prompts.

Look into it, it might just change your life. I dont want to create a big scene about it, just do your own research!
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Imagine giving yourself the ick by having to write your own thoughts out. Absolutely embarrassing. :lol:

If you have to rely on AI then there’s no point in you being on a forum.
 
I’m not in favour of allowing it to be honest. As a staff member we use posting styles to compare to known trolls in the battle to keep this forum reasonably troll free for the good of all the other posters. Someone posting only what ChatGPT and the likes spew out for them is a serious problem for us.

I also don’t like it from the point of view that it’s bland, personality free. I can’t see the point of someone coming on a forum to only post AI posts.
 
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SilentWitness said:
As I can understand if you have poor English speaking skills but want to contribute, but yes, you are right that they take personality completely out of a forum and any posts which include AI (that's not an obvious piss take) should be deleted/not approved.
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Even then it's a bad idea. The beauty of a forum is that you can hone your language skills, by using AI you are only cheating yourself.

AI has its uses but I don't think that there is one on a discussion forum. Excluding speech to text.
 
Solius said:
Imagine giving yourself the ick by having to write your own thoughts out. Absolutely embarrassing. :lol:

If you have to rely on AI then there’s no point in you being on a forum.
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JPRouve said:
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Ban this guy
 
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In short, okay boomers.
 
Humans should prioritize posting on forum boards over relying solely on AI because human interactions bring unique personal experiences, emotions, and diverse perspectives that AI cannot fully replicate. While AI can generate information and provide answers, it lacks the nuance, empathy, and context that come from lived experiences. Human contributions foster authentic discussions, promote critical thinking, and allow for the exchange of cultural and individual insights that enrich conversations. Additionally, humans can engage with ethical dilemmas, moral considerations, and subjective viewpoints in a way that AI, which operates based on algorithms and data patterns, cannot. This dynamic helps maintain the human touch in online communities and ensures that conversations are meaningful and inclusive. In conclusion feck off Mr Wick
 
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