Some tacky comments in this thread.
US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012
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He had the courage of his convictions, I didn't always agree with his methods but no decent man would revel in his death.
Doesn't mean he wasn't a scumbag, and I'm not so sure that most scumbags don't realize exactly what they're doing. If he was just manipulating people's feelings with what amounted to propaganda, people should feel free to hate him.
I'm agnostic, so I personally don't really think much of someone dying, but I do try not to be inflammatory.
I'm agnostic, so I personally don't really think much of someone dying, but I do try not to be inflammatory.
I agree, but he's brought the criticism ultimately upon himself. Much like the media he so hated, he eschewed truth for the sake of his opinion but to an even greater extent in many cases. Had he gone about his business honestly, rather than framing others he'd have been less despised. As it stands, he was little more than a yellow journalist. He and Drudge are a large reason why anything that disagrees with the right is LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!!! No doubt there is bias in the media, but the remedy isn't being biased in the opposite direction. By creating such an environment, discourse becomes very difficult because facts and truth are thrown out while opinion rules--no matter how wrong. Liberals assume that all conservative arguments are wingnut theories and vice versa.
His death shouldn't be celebrated, but mourning it isn't required either.
Brilliant logic there. You don't know much about him, so A) he must not have had much impact, or else you would know, and B) the people who actually do know something about him don't matter.
Right, he had such strong convictions that he was willing to lie about the people he was supposedly reporting on in order to misrepresent their views and statements. How courageous.
What point are you trying to make? I have said I disagreed with some of his methods, I imagine he saw them as a means to an end. We weren't discussing whether he was an ethical journalist, I merely pointed out that it was remarkably undignified to revel in the death of another man. You seem to think that it's perfectly fine as long as he's a conservative pundit with a chequered history.
If the end is "my views are the ones accepted by society at large", killing everyone who opposes those views is a means to that end. If I attempted those means, I would be rightly vilified, and my early death surely celebrated.
If you don't feel the means of publicly assassinating the character of those he disagreed with through dishonest means rises to the level of righteous vilification, that's your opinion, but commenting how "idiotic", "crass", and "undignified" people who disagree with you are for saying unkind things about someone they disagree with is a shocking bit of naked hypocrisy.
I repeat.
There are many people I would be pleased to see go. It's not like I would actively work towards or wish for their death, but I won't shed a tear, nor will I hold back in my criticism just because they are now dead.
Bottom line is, the world is probably a better place without this jackass.
Other people on the list: Ratzinger, Dick Cheney, al-Assad, etc.
Addressed.
So just because people are like that with this particular guy, for explicitly stated reasons, you then take that to mean "a conservative pundit with a chequered history"? You're the only one saying such a thing.
There's a difference between dignified criticism and tasteless comments like: "Pleased he's rotting in hell". Still, it's a forum for opinions and if that's how people want to conduct themselves then I cannot stop them.
Well if there is a hell I assume he's there. There's not, though, so I can only take comfort from the fact that the world is now a very slightly better place.
And you're not exactly the model of reasonable forum behavior. Then again, that might be more down to your opinions than the delivery.
You didn't even come close to addressing my point.
CR... you do this all the time. To prove that a lefty is just as bad by mentioning someone from the left like Moore. The truth is Moore is not a scum like this guy from the right....who made up lies so someone lost a job and made up lies so an organization that helped poor people vote is gone,are the same
Just like you keep saying the Dems are as bad as the GOP..
Just like you keep saying the Dems are as bad as the GOP..
You have no idea what my opinions are, you barely bother to digest them before mindlessly interpreting them as sinister. You could give Breitbart a run for his money when it comes to selective quoting and taking comments out of context!
Was your point located in some hidden white text or possibly somewhere other than in your post or do you genuinely not see how my response addressed it?
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Florida: Romney vs. Obama
interesting.
no wonder the GOP is holding their convention there.
Obama will win Florida again...
interesting.
no wonder the GOP is holding their convention there.
Obama will win Florida again...
Thanks, I thought it was pretty brilliant myself. Seeing as how I pay a reasonable amount of attention to politics in this country if he was anything of note I would know a bit more of him. If he was some fringe idiot who was just a blogger with an opinion, well those kind of tools are everywhere. This board included.
he was central in the faked footage which lead to Acorn being defunded unfairly, and he edited footage of Shirely Sherrod to make her look racist when she was saying the opposite of what it was implied she did, she was sacked by the Obama admin over it.
He did have an impact but the man was everything that is wrong with US politics.
but he was not anyone of note though....or CR would have known who he was
He also recently claimed to have video of Obama at college as said he would be using it to show how radical he was.. I imagine we will still see these heavily edited, out-of-context videos at election time. He's set up the organisation and made the blueprint for this strategy, I expect it to continue
Tell me if I'm wrong here because I might be but didn't he only take a short clip? Not faked footage. So at most the comment was taken out of context by the footage. And I think he later said he never wanted her to get fired and was sorry she lost her job. I seem to remember the talk being Obama acted too quickly. Again, I could be wrong. And as for ACORN, I'm not sorry they lost funding by the govt. They were more than capable to get private funding. ACORN had big problems with the way it was conducting operations. It wasn't just one office that got nailed.
but he was not anyone of note though....or CR would have known who he was
Yes you're right. He was clearly the most powerful man in government.
you really are making yourself silly with this post CR....
he took what she said, turned it on its head and put it up on his website where is was picked up by Fox News. Obama was very weak on the issue but there is no excuse for what Brietbart did, whether he pretended to be sorry or not.
The Acorn footage with James O'keefe was taken out of context again (edit- there was also some overdubbing of voices according to actual investigations if I remember right), the woman working for Acorn didn't offer any help to the 'pimp' and the authorities were called. Obviously this wasn't told to the audience. Acorn have been not been found guilty of any wrongdoing as an organisation, they found that a few workers had tried registering faked names in order to get a bonus but they were caught and fired.
Do you really think providing legal or financial advice and registering poor people to vote is a service that is sustainable without government support?
^ I, for one am rejoicing at the death of that scumbag.
On to other news...Sheriff Joe has spoken people...Obama is in trouble
On to other news...Sheriff Joe has spoken people...Obama is in trouble
Yeah, what part of the Federal Elections Commission's authority devolves to the Maricopa County Sheriff's authority, again?
What a buffoon.
The most sensible thing uttered in this thread so far.
First evra, and now you? What is it with your arguments that means you have to credit people with blatantly false statements like that? Is it just so you can then go "hah, he's not the most powerful man in government; that is President Obama, so I was right and you were wrong"?
Really clever.
Classic example of why law inforcement officials shouldn't be elected.
Breitbart would have wanted his opponents to celebrate his death - he after all only hours after Ted Kennedy died said this....
So yeah....he deserves no better.
So yeah....he deserves no better.
Did not celebrate his death. But glad scum like him are out of circulation.
He must have had an awful lot of scorn and hate for himself to have done what he did to that poor woman who lost her job.
I dont know the status of her suit against him. But I hope she succceds against his estate and drains it out of every penny.
He must have had an awful lot of scorn and hate for himself to have done what he did to that poor woman who lost her job.
I dont know the status of her suit against him. But I hope she succceds against his estate and drains it out of every penny.
Breitbart would have wanted his opponents to celebrate his death - he after all only hours after Ted Kennedy died said this....
So yeah....he deserves no better.
Cringeworthy stuff, just like the responses of his own death.
^Yup, definitely not a case of people taking the high road - but he was just so hateful, it's not surprising that his death has been met with this sort of reaction.
Not proud of it myself, but there you are.
Not proud of it myself, but there you are.
Ohio looks like it is gonna be tight.....early yet, though.
Santorum has a 13k lead but apparently Cleveland isn't reporting yet. Most of the smaller places will vote Santorum while the more urban areas should be for Romney. Same for Columbus and Cincinnati.
Could be interesting.
Could be interesting.
How the hell is Rick Santorum getting votes? I just cannot wrap my head around it. It is inspiring though, if millions think such a clear idiot should be president than impossible really is nothing.
Romney has this...or should based on where is left to report. (Ohio...which is the one that really matters)
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