US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012
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Today's brain teaser on how they'd look like massive plebs is duly answered when the debate strays onto abortion.
Obama's on a war against religious freedom!
40% of the nation's children are utter bastards! So let's ban contraception!
Paraphrasing there, but I think that was it more or less.
Obama's on a war against religious freedom!
40% of the nation's children are utter bastards! So let's ban contraception!
Paraphrasing there, but I think that was it more or less.
Well, if people can't use contraception, they won't have promiscuous or recreational sex. As it should be, apparently.
Its troubling to me that a candidate can run on a platform of "no contraception" and actually be leading the national polls for the nomination. Baffling.
I see what you're saying but it's not really his "platform", more a personal belief. Plus it's a minor part but it gets a lot of headlines because of the nature. In this country he'd make no headway on such a thing, nor should he.
He's argued for states to have the right to ban contraception. Utah would be about the only state that would consider that, most likely, but it's a serious infringement upon the rights of people. He talks about freedom, freedom, freedom while opposing freedom for anyone but straight, middle-/upper-class, Christians.
He also thinks the government should get out of education entirely so everyone can just homeschool their kids. Yeah, a single-mom working 2 or 3 jobs is going to have time to sit down and teach her kids algebra.
He lives in his own little theocratic utopia in his head. The dumbass believes that abstinence-only sex ed works and is the only means of doing it. Besides, sex is only for procreation anyway, not for fun(according to him and his weirdo sect). How he isn't destroyed over his ridiculously stupid opinions is beyond me. I can only guess it's because most of the other GOP primary candidates hold similar views.
The whole primary he's tried to turn the election into Christians vs the anti-Christ. "Making America a Christian Nation" again, which it never was in the first place. It's been secular since Thomas Jefferson delivered the Declaration of Independence to the Continental Congress. He's claimed, vaguely, that Obama isn't a Christian, maybe SEKRIT MUSLIM or atheist, to score points. It seems rather un-Christian to me for him to insinuate things about another person's faith that he knows nothing about. Doing it for political gain is disgusting.
All of the candidates are morons, but I can't imagine how people could, in full knowledge of his delusions, vote for him. Unless there are far more delusional people than I hoped.
He also thinks the government should get out of education entirely so everyone can just homeschool their kids. Yeah, a single-mom working 2 or 3 jobs is going to have time to sit down and teach her kids algebra.
He lives in his own little theocratic utopia in his head. The dumbass believes that abstinence-only sex ed works and is the only means of doing it. Besides, sex is only for procreation anyway, not for fun(according to him and his weirdo sect). How he isn't destroyed over his ridiculously stupid opinions is beyond me. I can only guess it's because most of the other GOP primary candidates hold similar views.
The whole primary he's tried to turn the election into Christians vs the anti-Christ. "Making America a Christian Nation" again, which it never was in the first place. It's been secular since Thomas Jefferson delivered the Declaration of Independence to the Continental Congress. He's claimed, vaguely, that Obama isn't a Christian, maybe SEKRIT MUSLIM or atheist, to score points. It seems rather un-Christian to me for him to insinuate things about another person's faith that he knows nothing about. Doing it for political gain is disgusting.
All of the candidates are morons, but I can't imagine how people could, in full knowledge of his delusions, vote for him. Unless there are far more delusional people than I hoped.
I didn't see much of the debate because I just end up yelling at the tv if I do. I was lucky enough to see the part about foreign policy as that is really all I would be interested in hearing. Iran and Syria were the main subjects. Romney thinks Obama has been soft on Iran, but I'm pretty sure the two front runners would want to avoid a foreign policy discussion during any debate with Obama.
Newt's suggestion was to destroy the Florida Everglades and the Alaskan wilderness by drilling in national parks. Ron Paul was almost ignored and told to answer the question 'quickly'. He was booed and laughed at for suggesting that war needs to be avoided.
Santorium said that the budget needs to be balanced but that the military isn't the problem. Is it irony when politicians in America talk about mad men in Iran when they have ten thousand nukes and spend $700 billion on their military yearly? Don't touch the military budget though; the problem is food stamps
Newt's suggestion was to destroy the Florida Everglades and the Alaskan wilderness by drilling in national parks. Ron Paul was almost ignored and told to answer the question 'quickly'. He was booed and laughed at for suggesting that war needs to be avoided.
Santorium said that the budget needs to be balanced but that the military isn't the problem. Is it irony when politicians in America talk about mad men in Iran when they have ten thousand nukes and spend $700 billion on their military yearly? Don't touch the military budget though; the problem is food stamps
fair points.
I think many good people on your side get dropped because of the vetting process.
Does anyone have a video of the full debate?
try CNN.com mate.
btw I thought the media 'wanting' Santorum to beat Romney in MI and AZ was cringeworthy.
Goes to prove, these people are only in it for the ratings and not interested in reporting news.
Goes to prove, these people are only in it for the ratings and not interested in reporting news.
I can only find highlights.
Here you go: CNN Arizona Republican Presidential Debate at Mesa Arts Center - February 22, 2012 - YouTube
It's quite a dull one though, I thought. Maybe I'm just getting used to insanity, who knows.
It's quite a dull one though, I thought. Maybe I'm just getting used to insanity, who knows.
Cheers.
Didn't care to see the debate. But I hear it was a beat up on Santorum event. Also, I keep hearing of a mutual non agression pact between Romney and Paul. Any truth to this in the debates. Sounds like the motive is a possible Romney/Paul ticket. And when I say Paul it could be either Ron or Rand.....
A little sway toward Libertarianism? Man I hope.
A little sway toward Libertarianism? Man I hope.
Santorum came out awful.
Newt had his moments. But Romney was good as usual.
I thought Romney would pick a Hispanic.
It did certainly look like Mittens and Paul were trying to spitroast Assjuice, while Gingrich was more or less obsolete throughout the whole ordeal.
I seriously doubt there's going to be a Romney/Paul ticket, Paul would lose half his support base overnight.
I think it would be more about Romney getting Pauls supporters. It would certainly put him inf front of Santorum. And Gingrich is done, has been for a while.
I could see him making a run at Rubio to try and entice Hispanic voters. However, I think Rubio would be foolish to get involved with any of these guys at this point in his political career.
Rubio will definitely run in 2016 though.
This is when Ron Paul is right - you have Santorum and Romney banging on about 'the great socialist' bankrupting the state yet the former wants to cut corporation tax for manufacturers to zero and the latter once to greatly increasing military strength and capability yet their supporters cannot work out the consequences of this.
If I was Ron Paul I would be banging on about the British Government right now. Two years ago in our general election the Conservatives campaigned against the spending of a left-wing incumbent government and that severe austerity measures were required, that won through and as a consequence they are cutting spending quickly, they are doing it across all departments and they are raising certain taxes more often than they are cutting others. They are certainly not doing what Santorum, Romney and Gingrich are wanting to do.
If what they want to do for better or worse is to cut spending quickly, this is how it is done as opposed to what Republicans are actually talking about.
The Conservaties surely have more in common with the Democrats than the Republicans, barring a few more extreme examples?
That is not the point I am making, the point I am making is that the Republicans are saying that they want to cut spending in the same manner the Conservatives did in 2010 but they are not committing themselves to the spending restraint that is required of such a policy that our government here is adhering to.
More or less yes, I'd say most Democrats are to the right of most Tories too. Only the likes of Kucinich and Sanders can be considered to the left of the Conservative rank and file.
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This made me chuckle:
I bet she does as well
This made me chuckle:
I bet she does as well
I suppose its technically possible but highly unlikely since Bush or whoever else were to join up would need to get on the ballot on all in the remaining states.
On the other hand, I'm going to relish watching Santorum and his wacky views make a complete tit of himself now that the spotlight is on him. Romney would be wise to shut up, let the negative ads soften ass juice up a bit, then take the delegates to the convention.
On the other hand, I'm going to relish watching Santorum and his wacky views make a complete tit of himself now that the spotlight is on him. Romney would be wise to shut up, let the negative ads soften ass juice up a bit, then take the delegates to the convention.
Such a candidate would have to ensure that the Republicans would have to go to the convention without a defacto nominee which wouldn't be difficult considering how the primaries so far have split between three individuals.
Sanders is a self confessed socialist. Though I think he says that just to deferentiate himself from the Dems.
Yeah by the sounds of it it's possible for a candidate to turn up at the convention having not been on any of the ballots for nomination, but they can broker a deal whereby they get the support of the delegates?
Sounds dodgy as feck to me and I can't see how it would be allowed to happen, but from what I've read it's theoretically possible. They'd get absolutely pummelled against Obama though.
Sounds dodgy as feck to me and I can't see how it would be allowed to happen, but from what I've read it's theoretically possible. They'd get absolutely pummelled against Obama though.
They have to really focus on which candidate hurts them in the rest of the November elections.
That is how it used to work, in modern times if no candidate has a majority at the convention after a couple of rounds of voting all delegates are released and it is a free for all.
Just be thankful that the Americans have a two party sytem preventing the electoral college from not producing a majority - if they cannot determine a victor it then goes to the House of Representatives. All the congressmen and women from each state vote within their state delegation who to elect a president and each state casts one vote equal to all others. In 2000 and 2004 it would have only taken one third party candidate winning just one state for that to happen.
There will be some non-binding delegates from the start, then some will be free to vote to whomever they want after the first, second and most after the third round.
Comment on reddit regarding abortion...
"I'm still undecided on abortion. On the one hand I support it because it is killing babies. On the other hand, it gives women a choice"
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Don't try to impede a Satanist's right to kill babies and keep women in bondage, it's protected under the 1st Amendment.Sorry, I'm not a seasoned follower of US politics so you'll have to help me here, I don't have a deep knowledge of Boxer's policies. Has she ever run (and been at the front) of a Democrat race? And looking at her policies, no-one would bat an eye at her in Europe, is she really considered the 'extreme left' of the Democrat party? And does she say stuff like this?
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She's been an elected official for a lifetime. And newsflash, she's not in Europe so I don't understand the comparison. Also, I never said there weren't idiots in the repub party of course there are. But Waters statements of calling repubs demons and devils. Also, telling the tea party to go straight to hell are not helping. She's hinted at a complete gov't take over of the oil industry. She's a complete loon and divisive. The idiot repub should lose his position as well. Do these repubs comments justify allowing others to say stupid things? That seems like what you're implying.
You're pretty much making our point for us here, Cali. If that is the prime example of a notable Democrat who is on the extreme left and is a total loon, that says more of the state of US politics than anything else.
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