He may or may not, but the incentives are definitely there for him to run. It would make sense for him and the advocacy of his issues. He has already more or less come out and said he doesn't expect to win an election, and that he's here to make sure the issues he cares about are discussed. A noble cause.
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He may or may not, but the incentives are definitely there for him to run. It would make sense for him and the advocacy of his issues. He has already more or less come out and said he doesn't expect to win an election, and that he's here to make sure the issues he cares about are discussed. A noble cause.
I hope he runs. He has the money and he has nothing to lose plus it will set up a future run for his son. The repubs could be feckered for years.
if not for himself, he will not run for the sake of his son imo.
but I agree most fringe candidates run in the primaries to advocate causes that the main candidates o not address enough.
on the issue of changing demographics an observation.
For a Democratic candidate to win the Presidency, he or she must hold NY and California.
For a Republican he or she must hold Texas and Florida.
It was not a fluke that Obama won Florida last time around and not a coincidence that the GOP are having their convention there this time around.
Florida has now become a swing state.
You can't really judge where the country is moving off the back of the worst recession since the great depression. Its an emotional ea and the true political compass is being distorted. Most Americans basic ideals are heavily influence by conservative policies.
Unless Obama turns the economy around and people feel better off its inevitable the Republicans will win an election in the near future.
Unless Obama turns the economy around and people feel better off its inevitable the Republicans will win an election in the near future.
Ass-juice is a nasty piece of work. I hope he vanishes from the national scene after this.
Ass-juice? I'd put that into a google search but I'm affraid of what will happen......
Yay, Modesto!
By the way have you seen the new redistricting maps? Looks like as far as congressional districts go, all of Stanislaus County + half of Manteca and all of Tracy will be in one solid district, unlike the exquisitely gerrymandered nonsense from before. I'd be interested to see how this factors into the next election if at all.
I was in Atwater a few weeks ago. Had a lovely few hours at Castle AFB.
Lived in Modesto a long time. Just moved to Elk Grove. Still work just outside of Modesto though.
I haven't seen the maps. But this area is very conservative and republican. Demos do get elected here though, anyone remember Gary Condit.......
Elk Grove...jeezus.
Bet you got a big house nice and cheap.
Bet you got a big house nice and cheap.
Lived in Modesto a long time. Just moved to Elk Grove. Still work just outside of Modesto though.
I haven't seen the maps. But this area is very conservative and republican. Demos do get elected here though, anyone remember Gary Condit.......
This is where you live? If I didn't know better I would not think that was California.
It's pretty universally agreed that the new districts are going to result in Democratic gains. It's quite possible that the Democratic party after this year's elections will have super-majorities in both houses.
The state GOP, which was a big proponent of the independent commission because it didn't want Democrats redrawing the lines, and the commission put Demos and the GOP on equal footing, (despite the fact that California has far more Democratic voters than Republican,) is suing to try to block implementation of the new maps. It's being heard by the State Supreme Court today, in fact.
This is where you live? If I didn't know better I would not think that was California.
Yes sir. That picture was taken about a half mile from my house. Its the front of a bank.....
Okay, so I just opened that at a random spot, and I swear to god, he said "harnessing the awesome power of zombies", like it was the most natural thing in the world.
Yes. Just.... yes.
Yes.
Interesting. However, I wouldn't be surprised at all about majorities by dems. As far as population goes California is mostly a dem state for sure. They are just concentrated in small areas. When you look at it by county the state looks more conservative than most would think.
This guy is officially a demo???? Not sure where he'd fall. Far left???
Maybe he can get some traction with that quote as a campaign slogan, Vermin Supreme. Harnessing the awesome power of zombies.
Still early days, but here is the picture so far: (38 delegates elected)
1- Mitt Romney (14 delegates)
2- Ron Paul (10 delegates)
3- Rick Santorum (8 delegates)
4- Newt Gingrich (2 delegates)
4- Jon Huntsman (2 delegates)
4- Rick Perry (2 delegates)
And just to keep things in perspective, 1144 delegates are needed to win the nomination. So we haven't started yet really.
1- Mitt Romney (14 delegates)
2- Ron Paul (10 delegates)
3- Rick Santorum (8 delegates)
4- Newt Gingrich (2 delegates)
4- Jon Huntsman (2 delegates)
4- Rick Perry (2 delegates)
And just to keep things in perspective, 1144 delegates are needed to win the nomination. So we haven't started yet really.
Wow. Perry and Gingrich with only 2 each. How far the mighty have fallen. And for Santorum to be that close is surprising, to me anyway.
Yeah but that's the usual urban/rural divide. The parts with all the Democrats are the parts with all the people.
I thought the Primaries were winner takes all like the Presidential election?
Lived in Modesto a long time. Just moved to Elk Grove. Still work just outside of Modesto though.
I haven't seen the maps. But this area is very conservative and republican. Demos do get elected here though, anyone remember Gary Condit.......
I lived in the part of town where the other kids you went to school with were half in Cardoza's district and half in Radanovic's district. The lines were wonky enough that you actually had to look up which district was yours by address. It wasn't a simple street line boundary since the line would snake down one street, around two corners to capture a rich neighborhood/shut out the Mexicans, and all other crazy configurations. It was the part of town where you could go two blocks in a poor area and immediately end up in a rich area with the only boundary being a small road.
Elk Grove, Cali Red? No shit. I'm moving to Rancho Cordova next month. You, Grinner, and I should meet up somewhere on election night and not say a goddamn word to each other. Just pull out or laptops and post in the election thread on the Caf while we're there.
Yeah I just looked it up today since I hadn't kept up on the news but just out of the blue remembered that we're supposed to have new districts this year. The controversy doesn't surprise me at all, though from a purely aesthetic standpoint, I'm happy where the lines are drawn simply because the boundaries are much simpler.
The part at the beginning was what got me. All the dental puns.
Nope. So all these second and third place results still do matter, especially for someone out of the mainstream like Paul who are likely to not drop out of the race even if it's lost. I expect him to hoard as many delegates as possible to try to influence the party platform.
Interesting.. are the Democratic primaries the same? It always amazed me how anyone could think the winner takes all thing would be a good idea, particularly for Presidential elections.
Its pretty much over actually. It will take a miracle to undo Romney's momentum now.
That's exactly why I posted it. Because I thought so too..
Turned out it's not like that, in ALL states.
States who hold their primaries before April 1st, will send delegates proportional to the vote percentages (except for Florida and South Carolina), for the other states they WILL use the winner-takes-all method.
So if anybody is to challenge Romney, they must be strong enough to BEAT him after April 1st. I personally can't see that happening.
I would agree. The early states...not sure up to which it is proportional. The rest are winner take all. But apparently this sunday some key conservatives are meeting to 'pick' a conservative alternative to Romney...which should be interesting.
as a matter of interest, the democrats are all proportional but with super delegates having the final say. This time of course Obama is unopposed.
That's right. I should have mentioned that some states do use winner take all.
Also Danny, shouldn't there be 40 delegates total so far? 28 from Iowa and 12 from New Hampshire.
South Carolina will have 25 (same penalty as New Hampshire) and will be decided by a combination of territories and statewide results. 2 delegates for each congressional district win (7 districts total) and 11 to the statewide winner (most likely Romney).
Also, I know it's probably been hammered about before, but the fact that Iowa's delegates aren't settled yet might actually come into play this time due to Santorum's surge in Iowa and complete goose-egg in New Hampshire. He's supposed to get 7-12 delegates depending on who's running the projections (not sure where you got yours, Danny) but if he ends up dropping out, those delegates could go somewhere else.
And when you consider the fact that New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan are all getting their delegate counts slashed in half, if 12 delegates are thrown in play, that's effectively another New Hampshire.
Also Danny, shouldn't there be 40 delegates total so far? 28 from Iowa and 12 from New Hampshire.
South Carolina will have 25 (same penalty as New Hampshire) and will be decided by a combination of territories and statewide results. 2 delegates for each congressional district win (7 districts total) and 11 to the statewide winner (most likely Romney).
Also, I know it's probably been hammered about before, but the fact that Iowa's delegates aren't settled yet might actually come into play this time due to Santorum's surge in Iowa and complete goose-egg in New Hampshire. He's supposed to get 7-12 delegates depending on who's running the projections (not sure where you got yours, Danny) but if he ends up dropping out, those delegates could go somewhere else.
And when you consider the fact that New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan are all getting their delegate counts slashed in half, if 12 delegates are thrown in play, that's effectively another New Hampshire.
Looks like Iowa has 26 delegates.
I got these numbers from CNN..
GOP Delegate Calculator - Election Center 2012 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
Ah okay, I think you're right. Naturally CNN trusts their own projections for Iowa's convention. There's officially 28 delegates total to hand out. Wikipedia says there's 3 left unallocated for the projected results, but CNN has somehow assigned 1 of those 3 to someone. So 26 "allocated". 2 to come later.
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Have they no shame? It's not just the GOP who exploits the rules, but they are the ones pushing for the elimination of all anti-corporate rules.
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Have they no shame? It's not just the GOP who exploits the rules, but they are the ones pushing for the elimination of all anti-corporate rules.
Coming soon, The United States of America brought to you by Exxon-Mobil.
How large would the margin of victory be for Obama against conspiracy nut (Paul)?
Short answer, no.
Without looking up the history, top 5? Almost certainly top 10. I can only think of 1 since I've been alive/paying attention, Reagan v Mondale. I know that ones up there near the top.
Might beat out FDR in 36, who won 60.8% to 36.5%.
Can anyone here explain why corporations have 1st Amendment rights in elections and are considered people in that case? Yet, if BP, Halliburton, etc are culpable for the deaths of employees(Gulf oil spill), they face relatively little sanction. The CEO got a nice severance package I'm sure before he was fired, leaving everyone else to deal with the aftermath.
I know it makes it easier to sue them, etc, but they aren't people and should not have any say in elections or campaign finance. There could surely be a special status created for corporations to allow them a set of rights that does not override those of the people. We are the constituents of the government and it should be beholden to us, not whoever gives them the most money. Have Congressional hearings with industry experts, companies, academics, etc, to decide the best path forward in terms of legislation rather than saying "feck it, EMI gave me $20k and their lawyers gave me $50k, I'm voting for SOPA no matter what! Maybe they'll give me more afterward." Then, you get the concerns of the companies(for or against), experts, and citizen groups before passing, writing, or amending a bill. Instead, we have a bunch of idiots who're enslaved to their donors for the duration of their stay in Washington and rarely do their own thinking.
Can anyone here explain why corporations have 1st Amendment rights in elections and are considered people in that case? Yet, if BP, Halliburton, etc are culpable for the deaths of employees(Gulf oil spill), they face relatively little sanction. The CEO got a nice severance package I'm sure before he was fired, leaving everyone else to deal with the aftermath.
I know it makes it easier to sue them, etc, but they aren't people and should not have any say in elections or campaign finance. There could surely be a special status created for corporations to allow them a set of rights that does not override those of the people. We are the constituents of the government and it should be beholden to us, not whoever gives them the most money. Have Congressional hearings with industry experts, companies, academics, etc, to decide the best path forward in terms of legislation rather than saying "feck it, EMI gave me $20k and their lawyers gave me $50k, I'm voting for SOPA no matter what! Maybe they'll give me more afterward." Then, you get the concerns of the companies(for or against), experts, and citizen groups before passing, writing, or amending a bill. Instead, we have a bunch of idiots who're enslaved to their donors for the duration of their stay in Washington and rarely do their own thinking.
An average of polls puts him back 7%, the closest poll has him behind by 1%.
RCP Average 11/8 - 1/9 -- Obama 47.9% Paul 41.1% Obama +6.8
CBS News 1/4 - 1/8 Obama 46% Paul 45% Obama PLUS 1
RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates
May be as much as Gingrich was ahead of Romney a couple of months ago?
BP, the company the Americans troed to blame for it whilst the American companies escaped any attention - not the best example.
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