US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012

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Romney is not their guy because even they can see he is just a 'suit'.

as has been said...he has 'no core'.

Romney just wants to get elected, and will gladly sell whatever ideals he has up the river to do so. The difference the right makes is in thinking that Perry, Cain, Newt et al are any different.

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The GOP has seriously damaged the credibility of its anti-tax position with this move. With their lack of interest in acting to prevent payroll tax hikes, and Boehner now actively blocking the Senate's compromise bill, it can't be any more apparent that the only taxes the GOP will really fight to keep low are those of the 1%ers.
 
The GOP has seriously damaged the credibility of its anti-tax position with this move. With their lack of interest in acting to prevent payroll tax hikes, and Boehner now actively blocking the Senate's compromise bill, it can't be any more apparent that the only taxes the GOP will really fight to keep low are those of the 1%ers.
'No-one ever went bust underestimating the intelligence of the American people'.
 
A brilliant piece that nicely sums up the state of American politics......


President Obama Will Win In An Overwhelming Landslide in 2012 and Will Deserve the Victory

Frank Schaeffer: President Obama Will Win In An Overwhelming Landslide in 2012 and Will Deserve the Victory

America is a one party state. The Democratic Party is the sole political party in the US now.

The Republican Party is no more. It is not a political party; as David Brooks noted "the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party."

It has become a clearing house for religious fanatics, Ayn Rand groupie weirdos and angry white racists driven literally mad by seeing a black man in the White House, a black man more articulate and intelligent -- not to mention annoyingly even tempered -- than they or their bizarre leaders are.

I was a Republican activist in the 1970s and 80s. My father was a founder of the religious right and I was his sidekick. What he and I did --sadly -- still resonates today.

For instance Michele Bachmann got into politics because of reading my father's work. I escaped -- fled -- in the early 1990s. But I do know the Republicans from the inside and in the past hung around with the likes of the Bush Sr., family, the Fords, Bill Buckley etc. And whatever you may think of those Republicans, they belonged to a normal -- if misguided -- political party.

No more. Roll over in your grave Jack Kemp! Call your office Bill Buckley!

As Hal Crowther writes:

The Republican Party's slapstick search for a leader would be heartwarming and sidesplitting, but for the tragic knowledge that one of these scrambling midgets will collect tens of millions of votes in the presidential election of 2012. Never have so many amounted to so little, talked so much rubbish, dreamed of an office so far above their abilities. Blood pressures rose among party elders when Donald Trump, marginally Republican and one of the greatest fools in the solar system, momentarily tossed his hairpiece into the ring and became the instant favorite.

The GOP dilemma -- a golden opportunity to rule but nothing to say and no one to say it -- is so desperate that my instinct is to help them sort it out. Could we make a start, at least, by dismissing candidates who called for President Obama's birth certificate or raised the specter of Sharia law in America, followed briskly off the stage by lunatics who dismiss global warming as a socialist plot?

That would leave plenty of unbalanced extremists still in the running, yet reduce the stench of sheer evil and madness. The "birther" and Sharia cults reek of cheesy talk-radio racism; climate-change denial is a stranger faith yet, a political assault on basic science that insults a ground squirrel's intelligence and casually threatens the survival of life on earth.


That is what, not whom, President Obama will run against in 2012. He will be running against the "party" that in the matter of the debt crisis is happy to take the whole county with them over the cliff of loony and contradictory Bible-based/Ayn Rand-inspired, ideology into economic chaos. None of which any former Republicans, let alone any actual Christians -- i.e., those who try to follow the teachings of Christ -- would recognize.

This folly will not be forgotten. Nor will the insanity of the Rick Perry prayer meeting sponsored by a list of homophobic fanatics.

No matter what the president has to do to resolve this manufactured debt limit crisis, he will do something effective. And he will -- once again -- succeed in confounding his insane far right/religious right critics, and also once again prove his left wing critics wrong.

President Obama towers over his political rivals, left and right.

While the country and many of its leaders seem to feed on hysteria, the president takes the long view, and consistently wins.

The "disappointed" left says president Obama sold out.

The racist-laced Medicaid-mugging, billionaire-codling right staggers under the weight of terminal "birther" mythology-to-Ayn Rand "economics" of fascist selfishness.

Meanwhile president Obama continues to bide his time and looks down the road to the post-2012 reality when his patience with an impatient country filled with some very silly people, his thoughtfulness in the context of a sound-bite-entertain-ourselves-to-death era of short attention spans and historical amnesia will be vindicated.

If you think that president Obama played the Republicans in the last lame duck congress like a violin just wait until after 2012. Just wait to see how he end runs the opposition both left and right, and scores big for the moderate middle in the debt crisis.

The disappointment on the left has apparently led some folks to concoct an alternate reality in which -- in a mirror image of the loony embittered far right, not to mention in a mirror image of people like Sarah Palin who have made a profitable career out of being professional Obama haters -- no matter what president Obama does they dismiss it.

In other words some on the left don't just disagree on tactics they act like jilted lovers (and/or opportunistic cynics trolling for the next book advance) and have turned their once too-ardent love into hate.

The president's critics left and right all had one thing in common: impatience laced with little-to-no sense of history.

Meanwhile back in the real world ...

• Health care reform passed

• Bin Laden is dead

• Gay rights in the military took a quantum leap

• The economy began to revive and will again after the President resolves the debt crisis one way or another

• The world loved an American president for the first time in half a century

• The war in Iraq drew down

• America foiled countess terror attacks

• We're drawing down in Afghanistan

And in post-Libya intervention President Obama has in a little noticed historic move -- changed America's arrogant unilateral habit of global intervention perfected by Bush II.

Mr. Kupchan (of the Council on Foreign Relations) says that something new about Obama regarding actual change is the way he acts in international interventions. "The governing mantra since World War II has been, 'America is out in front,' so it's quite striking how prominent the administration's focus is on letting others take the lead," he says. "It's really kind of revolutionary."

... And everything president Obama has done he did against the backdrop of a hate campaign against him -- from the right and the left -- the likes of which no American president has faced since Lincoln faced down the slave-owning states.

Make no mistake the Tea Party, the rise of shills-for-profit like Palin, Bachmann, Trump et al, the sale of bumper stickers calling for the president's death (Psalm 109) etc., etc., all add up to one thing: the white rube underclass is lashing out. (Jimmy Carter was correct; it's always about race in America.)

And in THIS context, with the just-say-no Republicans doing nothing but obstructing him our first black president has nevertheless:

Extended child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixes; killed bin Laden: increased minority access to capital; established a credit card bill of rights; expanded loan programs for small businesses; closed the "doughnut hole" in Medicare prescription drug plan, required insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions; required children to have health insurance coverage; expanded eligibility for Medicaid; increased the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health workers, fully fund the Veterans Administration, fully funded the Violence Against Women Act; directed military leaders to end war in Iraq; sought verifiable reductions in nuclear stockpiles; repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy; raised fuel economy standards and reversed restrictions on stem cell research...defended a woman's right to abortion...

While President Obama brilliantly cajoled 13 Republicans to join every Democratic senator to ratify the New START nuclear arms treaty with Russia, adding (as the Times put it) "the capstone to what now shapes up to be a remarkably successful legislative agenda for President Obama's first two years..." And while President Obama signed the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell into law and while President Obama orchestrated the push back in the Senate -- that then unanimously approved a bill to pay for the medical care of workers who cleaned up ground zero... the president also kept proving that his rabid critics on the right, who have been working so hard to undermine his presidency at every turn, are dead wrong. And then president Obama foiled the great Tea Party budget "victory" of April 2011.

We Americans are very lucky people. A sane and compassionate president is in charge.

Maybe when President Obama is able to once again pull one out of the fire for sanity's sake, and America's sake in the debt crisis, maybe some of his usual critics on the left will at least admit that he is a good president, maybe a great one -- and that 2012 looks good.

As for the "Republicans," there are none, just a rag-tag group of losers who have hooked their despicably low expectations to bronze-age biblical myths on the one hand and a cult of anti-middle class selfishness and union-busting, job-exporting, billionaire-worship on the other.
 
Interesting, he says now he didn't write them. There is a link to a text-only copy of a 'Dallas Morning News' article from the 90s, if it's real, that has some Ron Paul quotes, but we don't have the questions so he could be responding to some other newsletter when he says they're being taken out of context.

As the article says, the writing style is not similar to his own, but if he was indeed involved in any way with that newsletter then that's a very sad. You suspect people who would say such things as stated in the inflammatory newsletters are the sort of beliefs someone doesn't just drop, it was very deep-seeded.

1996 Dallas Morning News Interview With Ron Paul
 
Its really comical how the Conservative establishment don't want Romney. Apparently Paul is leading the polls in Iowa now that Gingrich has dropped off after a few weeks of bad press. Paradoxically, Paul is further away from conservative main stream policies than Romney is.
 
Curious why Paul's opponents haven't attacked him on his pro-conspiracy supporting stance. It's been said that a good percentage of his supporters are in this truther/inside job line of thinking. A former friend of mine is a HUGE Ron Paul supporter and she also believes in NWO, 9/11 inside job, gets the majority of her info from Alex Jones.

When you're constantly being linked and supported by such nuts as Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura, sometimes it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck...

Yes, Virginia, Ron Paul is a 9/11 Truther (and a Coddler of Racists) | RedState
 
They'll pile onto Paul soon enough. We really need him to win Iowa though to liven things up or it'll be a Robotney snoozefest for the next few months.
 
Newt 25%, Romney 24%, Paul 11%.

Newt should be a shoe in to lose enough support to hand this to Romney. And he can't beat Obama.

But it will sure be funny watching it happen.
 
that's interesting. The media would have you believe Newt is dead and Romney is close to winning Iowa.

At least the GOP Establishment would have us believe it. If Bachmann and Santorum drop out after Iowa, it should help Newt more than Mittens.
 
If Romney can squeak out a win in Iowa, it will be very good for him. He's leading by a lot in New Hampshire and will badly need as much momentum as possible as the primaries go into the southern states where Gingrich is likely to trounce him by double digits in South Carolina and Florida. If Paul wins Iowa, it puts Romney in a really awkward position against Gingrich.
 
If Romney can squeak out a win in Iowa, it will be very good for him. He's leading by a lot in New Hampshire and will badly need as much momentum as possible as the primaries go into the southern states where Gingrich is likely to trounce him by double digits in South Carolina and Florida. If Paul wins Iowa, it puts Romney in a really awkward position against Gingrich.

The delegates are proportional for the early part right? Does that stop at Florida?

Cause you can see Newt getting more for the bigger states.
 
I admire some of Paul's ideology, when you don't have to think about making things work, sticking to libertarian ideals is pleasant enough.

I'd like to know what he would actually do as president, considering he wouldn't have the support of either party in the house or senate to do most of what he would want to do.

Maybe he doesn't want to answer because he's planning on using the Patriot Act to circumvent the legislative branch. But other than that, it would be interesting to know what he'd attempt in order to make something happen.

If he's just going to refuse to work with either party and vetoes everything, well, that's probably not what his supporters are imaging.
 
Paul is a conspiracy nut. And he's too old to be President. There is an age minimum - there should be an age maximum.

Speaking of nuts, holy fecking shit, Newt is the king of them all.

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The more I learn about Paul the more I feel he would be more destabilizing than even Gingrich. The spackers that support him usually do so because of one agenda issue while simultaneously turning a blind eye towards the broader idiocy of the rest of his policies.
 
You could say that about every presidential election, most people are single issue voters, it's madness. That candidate is under no obligation to do anything they say, and there's so much more to the job than the few issues that people decide on.

I'm sure Paul is getting a lot of his support because of his desire to end our military adventures and his opposition to the Federal Reserve banking system. Clinton won with 'It's the economy stupid' and a pleasant demeanor. It has little to do with what sort of presidents they would be.

I would certainly consider voting for Paul if he was going to stop our wars, I figure the weight of the bureaucratic system would stop him from tearing everything down like he would want to.

But he's got 12%, he's had that the whole time, I don't see it changing too much, so it's probably moot.
 
This is all a sideshow anyway...nobody will beat Barry. If it's Romney the base will be 'meh', if it's Gingrich the independents will be 'no fecking way'.
 
“Every barrel of oil that comes out of those sands in Canada is a barrel of oil that we don’t have to buy from a foreign source,” - Rick Perry.
 
I should become a mouthpiece for the plutocrats, you just recite Fox News catch-phrases and nothing you could say would be too dumb to disqualify you from office. All you need is the ability to look smug.
 
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