US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012

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niMic said:
I can't believe I feel sorry for Rick Perry :lol:
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Is he really getting mocked for not advocating building a massive fence? I lost concentration when Santorum was whining about something.
 
Ubik said:
Is he really getting mocked for not advocating building a massive fence? I lost concentration when Santorum was whining about something.
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Pretty much. Santorum thinks that is the answer to illegals I guess. He wouldn't let it go and looked like an idiot going on and on about it.
 
niMic said:
47% of people watching this on youtube, who you would think are younger than the average voter, want to remove the Department of Education.

What the feck is going on over there?
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To be fair, most people want it turned over more to state and local governments. Not like they want all go'vt out of the education business.
 
They want local/state governments, with less money, less skill, and are more easily manipulated by crazy people, to educate children.

Also, Rick Perry got a C or C- in US History. At Texas A&M. Not like his professor asked more difficult questions than: When is Independence Day? Who won the War of Northern Aggression?
 
Sir Matt said:
They want local/state governments, with less money, less skill, and are more easily manipulated by crazy people, to educate children.
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Maybe, but the education system is a disaster. The education kids get in this country is shocking. My two oldest went to public schools my youngest went to a private school (I am lucky enough to afford it now). His education was infinitely better. I put much more work in educating the older kids than I did the younger. The standards were just not there.
 
Social issues now, excellent.
 
Booing gay people, there we go.
 
Cali Red said:
Maybe, but the education system is a disaster. The education kids get in this country is shocking. My two oldest went to public schools my youngest went to a private school (I am lucky enough to afford it now). His education was infinitely better. I put much more work in educating the older kids than I did the younger. The standards were just not there.
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I agree. I went to public school in a tiny town in one of the poorest counties in NC until I went to a private university(Duke). My education was miles behind the private school kids I had to compete with. My grades in math and science were :nervous: while other kids, who had been through much better public(in rich areas) and private schools, made great grades. I told some of my friends who went to parochial schools that I'd do my best to send my kids to private schools and they asked why. I told them that the standards of their preparation for one of the more prestigious schools in the US was much better than my public school one.

In other subjects that I could indulge on my own, history, political science, lit, etc, I did well. It was just frustrating as hell how poorly prepared I was for some of the classes. I never made a B until the 3rd quarter of 12th grade so it's not like I wasn't doing well in high school.

There has to be reform in the school system, but when state systems(like NC) are cutting education funding, teacher jobs, and other necessities to end a temporary 1% sales tax, I can't trust them with the future of our kids. The scariest part for me is that my crappy-mediocre high school has higher test scores than the other two school systems in the county by around 30-40%. Giving power to a state legislators is ridiculous given how little scrutiny they are under during elections. Most people could tell you very little about their state representatives yet want to entrust them with public education. No thanks.
 
Would Obama's healthcare program have actually had any impact on Cain's treatment whatsoever?
 
"I didn't make that claim, I just repeated it as factual on national tv."
 
niMic said:
I feel sorry for American parents who have to face that issue. For me, the solution isn't to privatize education further, but to work on making the public education better.
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It's a shame really what we NEED to do to ensure the kids are getting a proper education. I'm lucky. I worked hard and went to college (I actually have 2 undergrads and a B school degree). I could really help my kids. But what about the people who can't? They rely on a horrific system.

I see Sir Matts points and his concerns are very valid about local politics.
 
Cali Red said:
It's a shame really what we NEED to do to ensure the kids are getting a proper education. I'm lucky. I worked hard and went to college (I actually have 2 undergrads and a B school degree). I could really help my kids. But what about the people who can't? They rely on a horrific system.

I see Sir Matts points and his concerns are very valid about local politics.
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It is a shame. It's also something it's hard for me to wrap my head around. There are private schools in Norway, though not many, but there's really no perception that the public education (as far up as the University level) is any worse. I'd be interested to find out how exactly things became like this in the US.
 
niMic said:
It is a shame. It's also something it's hard for me to wrap my head around. There are private schools in Norway, though not many, but there's really no perception that the public education (as far up as the University level) is any worse. I'd be interested to find out how exactly things became like this in the US.
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This is where you'll get the debate. Is it not enough spent per student? Is it spent ineffectively? Is it class size? Is it curriculum? Is it standards? My opinion it's a combination of so many factors I'm not sure where you start.
 
Repub;icans....Republican candidates.

I know we shouldn't generalize, but can you not?

Each and every single person is a disgrace, and Ron Paul is probably the only person not vile on a personal level.
 
Cali Red said:
This is where you'll get the debate. Is it not enough spent per student? Is it spent ineffectively? Is it class size? Is it curriculum? Is it standards? My opinion it's a combination of so many factors I'm not sure where you start.
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Much like healthcare, it's a problem that's nearly unfathomable in its complexity and how to solve it. There are a tons arguments, many of which contradict one another.
 
I'd love to see that bender soldier turn up and kick Santorum's arse...the size of his fecking guns! I'd like to see how the rest of his unit reacted to those morons in the crowd booing him as he risks his life for them.

fecking disgusting people.

Perry was awful but he still has tons of time to learn how to do basic things like attack his opponent. It's pretty bad when Mitt Romney can accuse you of flip-flopping and get away with it though!
 
Perry is turning out to be not as ideologically pure as teabaggers hoped. Educatin' illegals and injectin' poor little girls just isn't acceptable. He's also looking like a really bad Bush impersonator on stage.
 
Red Dreams said:
it will be Perry.

those 'Jaysus lovers' will not vote for a Mormon...even if he is probabaly more of a 'Christian' than they are.
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Really? I thought 'faith' was the keyword for those people, not necessarily 'Christian faith'.
 
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