USSR was a largely agrarian 19th-century feudal society, no real point in drawing analogies there. Explain the logic of providing a better service with a 20% drain on resources in the form of profit.
US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012
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No, there is an issue of your statement being a lie. Timing is not a "matter of opinion" it's a fact. Then again, reality has a liberal bias. Their statement said something that was factually incorrect and knowingly did so. It's disgusting behavior. Now they are all doubling down on it. Reince Priebus is scumbag in chief. Michael Steele may have been an idiot, but at least he wasn't a complete worthless sack of crap.
No, there is an issue of your statement being a lie. Timing is not a "matter of opinion" it's a fact. Then again, reality has a liberal bias. Their statement said something that was factually incorrect and knowingly did so. It's disgusting behavior. Now they are all doubling down on it. Reince Priebus is scumbag in chief. Michael Steele may have been an idiot, but at least he wasn't a complete worthless sack of crap.
Priebus is an attack-slug.
Oh my, Hannity is hilarious tonight.
If attacking other people's religion is "American values", let the games begin, Mr Magic Underwear. Also, Planet Kolob. 
Honestly, I doubt most voters even care. They've already picked Obama or Romney. Most of my friends are GOP (at least the more vocal ones) and have had a field day slamming Obama today. It's sad to see how biased and blinded people can be.
these terrorists who did this will be taken out soon and Willard will look even sillier if that were possible.
Michelle Malkin is close to tears about how much of a wimp our prez is! I don't know how these people go through this act every night.
...and she is ugly to boot.
The thing that annoys me is that people seem to focus on the guys who reacted. No, no one is focused on the hateful movie but the reactions.
Its like the guy who fouled but never gets caught. The guy who reacts always does..
Lets focus on the arseholes like Terry Jones.
Is there something in the law where you can produce hateful materials? The fire in the cinema scenario is one thing but to claim its your opinion or right to free speech...
Finally I wonder if we are living in a parallel universe here -- McCain the Maverick's weak point was his grasps on the economy and finance (which always amazed me considering how rich he was.) His economic blindspot was breached right around this time of the election cycle and he had his brain-freeze?
Wonder if the Middle East situation will be Mitten's foreign blindspot moment? (Foreign policy being Mitt's assumed blindspot.)
Its like the guy who fouled but never gets caught. The guy who reacts always does..
Lets focus on the arseholes like Terry Jones.
Is there something in the law where you can produce hateful materials? The fire in the cinema scenario is one thing but to claim its your opinion or right to free speech...
Finally I wonder if we are living in a parallel universe here -- McCain the Maverick's weak point was his grasps on the economy and finance (which always amazed me considering how rich he was.) His economic blindspot was breached right around this time of the election cycle and he had his brain-freeze?
Wonder if the Middle East situation will be Mitten's foreign blindspot moment? (Foreign policy being Mitt's assumed blindspot.)
All cats are grey when the lights are out.
What's going on?
I'm too busy watching mentally stimulating stuff. A hypothetical crash landing on Mars and how astronauts would survive.
I'd happily bang the shit out of her though....that filthy little mouth.
Hannity had Coulter on too....I'd punch her like I would a bloke if I had the chance.
So, you think we should focus on a guy who made a movie, not, say, someone who attacked a foreign embassy with a rocket because someone in the country of that embassy is making a movie...
Right.
Yes, actually. Truncated a bit, it reads "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech."
Making a hateful movie makes him a hateful asshole. Killing people because someone else is making a hateful movie makes you a murderer, and a pretty crazed one if you're killing someone who's only shared trait with the aforementioned hateful asshole is the country of their birth.
Lots of yelling, name-calling, cats and dogs living together...mass hysteria!
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
Nate gives Obama 68% chance to win Florida and 78% chance to win Ohio.
probably explains Romney's desperation.
good ol God and War...
Nate gives Obama 68% chance to win Florida and 78% chance to win Ohio.
probably explains Romney's desperation.
good ol God and War...
Five stupid things 10 September 2012 - some good ones in here, including anti-gay tripe, Clint Eastwood and the chair, Chuck Norris ad. But he also calls out the Dems on the god/Jerusalem thing.
What the feck is this shit? Do you even know what freedom of speech is, and what it entails? The whole point of it is to protect people from reactions such as this.
How fecking odd that people are focusing on the people who killed four innocent diplomats and wrecked an embassy, and not on the people who merely exercised their right to freedom of speech.
That includes hate speech. Very few things are illegal to say in the US. John Terry would never have gone to court here. While it was morally reprehensible, the video is completely legal.
Look I am not saying that the guys who killed the US diplomats are ok. But sometimes we need to look at who started the fire in the first place. Freedom of speech only well in the States.
But in a globalised environment, we are naive to think that what is protected in the States ought to be the same elsewhere. Its a US law and not a global law.
There are consequences to one's actions outside the US. Everything has it price/consequences including freedom.
But in a globalised environment, we are naive to think that what is protected in the States ought to be the same elsewhere. Its a US law and not a global law.
There are consequences to one's actions outside the US. Everything has it price/consequences including freedom.
We're not debating whether US law is applicable outside the US - it clearly isn't. The stakes are much higher and center on whether modern, liberal democratic values should be forced to capitulate to illiterate, bronze age fanaticism.
Not sure you can assume that they are all "illiterate, bronze age" fanatics. Islam as a religion cuts much deeper than it does to Christians -- its a way of life for them.
To depict Mohammed in the way the movie supposedly did would surely upset even the most liberal Muslims including those Muslim Caftards. I am sure the Israeli American Jewish film-maker was well aware of this and would have guessed at the consequences.
Christians fought wars over schisms in the Church, differences in dogma, and because the Pope told them to...centuries ago. Eventually, for the most part, Christians have become less aggrieved by their differences and disrespect shown to them or their religion. The Enlightenment led to the secularization of society and government. The Middle East hasn't had an "enlightenment" with regards to religion as a whole and its place in society/government.
Also, to suggest that Christianity isn't a way of life is a bit silly. Is it a hobby or something? For the devout of any religion it is a way of life, but the New Testament focuses greatly on grace and forgiveness rather than wrath or retribution. That doesn't stop lots of Christians enjoying some Old Testament justice though.
The situation in the Middle East is similar to that in Europe 500 years ago when the church was the most influential political, spiritual, and societal body.
Indeed. Realised again why I rarely watch it and Fox News in general.
"Its a way of life for them" - well that can be said of anyone. And again, this isn't about some shit film, its about a broader ideal of being able to speak ones mind without fear of getting murdered.
In my experience living or working in muslim countries versus christian countries, there is a big diff between how they live their lives.
Is it wrong that every time they show her...I think mail in order bride
It's racist and wrong on every level...but I can't help it. Her banging on about immigration only makes me laugh more.
Is this still the Presidential thread ?
Looks like Romney is in total freefall at the moment after his calamitous, crinegworthy remarks.
Looks like Romney is in total freefall at the moment after his calamitous, crinegworthy remarks.
When you're the biggest, best funded military in the world, with more fire power than virtually the entire rest of the world put together and the nations you're afraid of reside deep inside a different continent, the one thing you certainly need to prioritise for the public good during a poor domestic economy is more funding for the military. Ideally more than the military themselves have recommended.
It's just common sense.
It's just common sense.
...I may have misheard.
I did too. Isn't that Ares though?
Well, in the first game he is until Kratos kills him.
Just saw the former UK ambassador to Libya describe Romney's comments as "pretty contemptible" on BBC news. Just how big an own-goal is this going to prove for Romney? Also saw a rumour that Colin Powell could endorse Obama soon.
Well he did last time. He also had a great little rant on people calling Obama muslim. Both how stupid it was to think Obama is a Muslim, and on how it actually shouldn't matter if he was.
Yup I saw that, I also saw quite a funny recent interview between him and Hannity I think, who couldn't wrap his head around the fact Powell was a fan of both Reagan and Obama. "But, but, you're a Republican!"
No shock we all knew it was coming, I think most of us just thought it would happen in the debates.
Being reported now that potential VP candidates, including Ryan, were asked by the Romney campaign to submit 10 years of tax returns to them. Democrats drawing the obvious comparisons.
The Romney campaign is like the McCain campaign in that bad news just seems to emanate from it daily.
But maybe that's because I'm in a liberal echo-chamber. Hopefully it is having some effect... one of his key selling-points going into the primaries was basic competence, but that's looking ever less tenable.
But maybe that's because I'm in a liberal echo-chamber. Hopefully it is having some effect... one of his key selling-points going into the primaries was basic competence, but that's looking ever less tenable.
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