US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012

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Excal said:
The left is a big fan of Kamala. I think she's maybe a bit too liberal for a national stage, though.
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Yeah, but they always are when they start out. She'll realise what political expediency is as time goes on and move to the center.
 
Grinner said:
I must admit to really becoming a fan of Al Sharpton over the last few months. I used to think he was a race-baiting buffoon but he's actually very smart and has a way of laying out policy analysis in simplified terms. He has a wicked sense of humour too.
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I agree, he's a very sharp guy, if he's oversimplifying something you can be sure he's doing it on purpose for political reasons. You do have to keep things short and sweet in politics, unfortunately.

Perhaps someday all we'll talk about are the party planks, that should be all that matters.
 
I'm looking forward to Joe Biden more than the prez. I know that Obama will give a great speech but Joe will be the one who attacks and he always throws in zingers. I don't know why the right think he's rubbish, I think he's very effective.
 
I've only seen Sharpton the couple of times he debated religion with Christopher Hitchens, but he came across as a bit of a tit. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's razor sharp on other issues.
 
Grinner said:
I'm not really a fan...he seems to be more style than substance. But he is smart and very good at speaking and presenting his views. I think a lot of the CA dem party are actually putting a lot into making Kamala Harris a national name....I'd watch her career with interest.
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Excal said:
Have seen plenty of Newsom. He's a bit of a mixed bag. He had this weird playboy image with his coiffed hair and his TV girlfriend despite apparently being a massive workaholic. Might have a case of Clinton syndrome, as he got caught schtupping the wife of his campaign manager. Still don't know whether his big reach on gay marriage (when it was illegal at the time, he ordered the SF city-county clerk to issue marriage licenses to gay couples) was genuine activism or just a clever spot of grandstanding.

He'd planned to run for Governor before it was apparent Brown was going to kick everyone's ass and he went for the Lieutenant Governor's job as well. Personally, I think the Governor's job is a bit of a poison pill right now, and suspect Newsom might have his eyes on a Senate seat once Feinstein or Boxer gives up the ghost.
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Yeah style over substance would be the impression I got from him, he is handsome though. His position on gay marriage seems to have been an example of timing the big leap as popular opinion changed somewhat slower, but he still deserves some respect for his stance. I'm going to take a look at kamala harris, not a name I have heard before.

Grinner said:
I must admit to really becoming a fan of Al Sharpton over the last few months. I used to think he was a race-baiting buffoon but he's actually very smart and has a way of laying out policy analysis in simplified terms. He has a wicked sense of humour too.
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Bumped into him at the airport in new york, not an interesting story but he still speaks well of me so I thought I'd better mention it.

Springsteen :drool:
 
Bill O'Reilly and Karl Rove have said that Caroline Kennedy has besmirched the Catholic Church.

FNC is hilarious.
 
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"In Romney's world, the cars get the elevator, and the workers get the shaft"

Fecking brilliant.
 
This is on in the background whilst I'm in the US, they're bloody ripping Mitt Romney.
 
Mark Kelly (Gifford) is a good interview. He would do OK in politics.
 
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