US Politics

Much of the US fear Sharia law and do believe it's happening in various parts of the US, obviously driven by the likes of Fox News, hate talk radio, and politicians. Oklahoma passed a bill a while back that makes it illegal in the state, as if it would ever have been passed to begin with. Pandering to their Christian nutters no doubt.

Here's a list of bills introduced and enacted banning Sharia Law - https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/08/anti-sharia-law-bills-united-states

Its crazy.

When you have the right wing radio and TV shows constantly yapping on about these issues, the listener is brainwashed into thinking its a huge issue and then they think the Muslims are "taking over".

This isn't just America. The survey below shows other countries having the same issues and people think the Muslim population is massive, when the fact is its a small section of the population and they wildly overestimate the figure.

Americans think 17 out of every 100 people in the U.S. are Muslim, according to the survey from Ipsos Mori, a U.K. research company. But, according to the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, Muslims account for only 1 out of every 100 people in the U.S.

That works out to Americans thinking there are about 54 million Muslims in the U.S., when in fact the Muslim population is about 3 million.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...muslim-population_us_5852e354e4b012849c05f509
 
Yep. Sanders did very well in explaining his views in simple terms, so that the average American could understand what he was for.

Not sure if you watched the town hall a few months ago in McDowell County in West Virginia which heavily voted Trump. He got Trump supporters on his side with plenty of applause at the end.



Yes. I did.
It was quite moving to listen to the coalminer when he spoke about his town and life. Health Insurance.
 
Good but concerning polls for Bernie from Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn.
He is miles above Trump but well below Obama in popularity. This is reflected in lower scores from both Democrats and independents, and equal scores from GOP voters.
Still, he breaches 50% in all states, compared to Trump (33-36%)
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/MIpolls/MI170813/NBC News_Marist Poll_Michigan Nature of the Sample and Tables_August 2017.pdf#page=3
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/WIPolls/WI170813/NBC News_Marist Poll_Wisconsin Nature of the Sample and Tables_August 2017.pdf#page=3
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/PAPolls/PA170813/NBC News_Marist Poll_Pennsylvania Nature of the Sample and Tables_August 2017.pdf#page=3

Also, 30-38% of Trump supporters claim to have voted for him as a vote against HRC. The poll surveyed views about Trump, Bernie, and Obama, not any other national politician.

Edit: As expected, he does better among women, much better among blacks, and better among college grads. There is a weak, inconsistent split for income in the 3 states.
 
Remember, they are the pro-lifers.

Concurring in judgment, Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas would have gone even farther. Taking issue with the majority’s mere hypothetical entertainment of an innocence claim, Scalia wrote: “There is no basis, tradition, or even in contemporary practice for finding that in the Constitution the right to demand judicial consideration of newly discovered evidence of innocence brought forward after a conviction.” He concluded, “With any luck, we shall avoid ever having to face this embarrassing question again.”

In 1996, things got even harder for convicted prisoners. Congress passed a law declaring that federal courts could not overturn a conviction challenged in habeas corpus petition unless the state court that heard the case first was either “unreasonable” in applying a law that was clearly established by the United States Supreme Court or the state made factual findings that no reasonable person would agree with.
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The Supreme Court, Scalia pointed out, had sent the trial judge on a “fool’s errand” because it has “neverheld that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is ‘actually innocent.’ ” It was pointless to find Davis innocent because innocence, by itself, was not a legal basis to overturn the conviction

They are murderers.
 


Race breakdown:


Warren's numbers among whites are bad for the general; among AAs bad for a primary, but she has time on her side.
 
Surprised this is legal. This is the asshat who built that 90000 sq ft monstrosity in Florida.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Siegel

Siegel campaigned for George W. Bush in 2000.[16]

In a February 2012 interview by Susan Berfield, Siegel elaborated:

"Whenever I saw a negative article about Gore, I put it in with the paychecks of my 8,000 employees. I had my managers do a survey on every employee. If they liked Bush, we made them register to vote. But not if they liked Gore. The week before [the election] we made 80,000 phone calls through my call center—they were robo-calls. On Election Day, we made sure everyone who was voting for Bush got to the polls. I didn’t know he would win by 527 votes. Afterward, we did a survey among the employees to find out who voted who wouldn’t have otherwise. One thousand of them said so."[17]

During the 2012 United States elections, Siegel caused controversy and public debate when he sent a mass email to his employees, suggesting that they vote for Republican Party candidate Mitt Romney or he might have to take drastic measures in how he operated the company (including cutting back on his company's workforce).[18][19] In January 2015, it was noted that his company had experienced "the best year in our history" and he raised his company's minimum wage to $10 per hour.[20]
 
Surprised this is legal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/citizens-united-workplace_us_56be5383e4b08ffac1255c74

Yet in the post-Citizens United world, corporations and their trade associations don’t have to be quite that careful. The 2010 Supreme Court ruling that opened the door to unlimited corporate and union campaign spending also allows corporations and unions to communicate directly with employees and members about elections. They can tell them who they should vote for — and, in most states, compel them to do political work or appear at rallies for the candidates management supports.
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During the 2012 campaign, Westgate Resorts CEO David Siegel penned a memo to his employees saying their jobs would be at risk if President Barack Obama was re-elected.

“The economy doesn’t currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job, however, is another four years of the same presidential administration,” Mr. Siegel wrote. “If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current president plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company.”
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Georgia-Pacific, a paper product company owned by the billionaire Koch brothers, distributed a political endorsement flier to its employees during the 2010 and 2012 elections. As In These Times reported, Koch Industries funded the flier, which contained a cover letter that implicitly threatened job loss based on the outcome of the election:

If we elect candidates who want to spend hundreds of billions in borrowed money on costly new subsidies for a few favored cronies, put unprecedented regulatory burdens on businesses, prevent or delay important new construction projects, and excessively hinder free trade, then many of our more than 50,000 U.S. employees and contractors may suffer the consequences, including higher gasoline prices, runaway inflation, and other ills.

Koch Industries employees received a very similar flier during the 2010 election, according to The Nation.
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The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nation’s largest corporate business lobby, encouraged member companies to include electoral messages in envelopes containing employee pay stubs in 2012.

Perhaps the most notable case of corporate political communication to employees occurred in Ohio, when Murray Energy — headed by Republican party megadonor Bob Murray — compelled workers to forgo a day of paid work to appear at a Romney rally that would be turned into a campaign advertisement.

Kevin Hughes, a manager at Murray Energy, told workers their attendance was “mandatory,” although Murray Energy’s chief financial officer later stated that “no one was forced to attend the event.” In an FEC investigation into the incident, Hughes said that there was confusion about what he meant by “mandatory”:

If I used the word “mandatory” it would have been in the context of conveying that opposing the Obama Administration policies was mandatory if the coal industry is to survive.

That FEC investigation ended in a 3-3 deadlocked vote. Another FEC investigation into alleged coercion by a United Public Workers local in Hawaii — which allegedly forced members to campaign for former Democratic Rep. Colleen Hanabusa — ended similarly.
 
Not exactly a surprise considering she's running in 2020, but its still a positive move.

 
ICE Wrongly Imprisoned an American Citizen for 1,273 Days. Judges Say He’s Owed $0.
An ICE agent sent through—and his supervisors approved—mistaken paperwork ‘proving’ Davino Watson wasn’t a citizen. And no one’s been held to account for the catastrophic screw-up.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-wr...273-days-judges-say-hes-owed-nothing-for-that

It’s illegal for ICE to imprison Americans, but so long as its agents don’t believe you are one, the burden is on you to prove it—without being entitled to a lawyer, since most deportation hearings are civil proceedings.

An NPR analysis this year found 693 citizens have been held in local jails on federal detainer requests since 2007 and 818 more have been imprisoned directly by ICE.

Even that’s just a fraction of the 3,600 American citizens a 2011 Berkeley study found were detained by ICE under the “secure communities” program started by President Bush, dramatically expanded and later suspended by President Obama, and now revived by President Trump, who’s threatening to withhold federal funds from localities that don’t sign up.
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In his decision, Judge Weinstein ruled Watson was “badly treated by government employees. He deserves a letter of apology from the United States in addition to damages. But the court is not empowered to order this courtesy.”

Weinstein ruled that Watson was owed $82,500 for what ICE had done to him, broken down into $2,000 a day for 27 days of loss of liberty, $500 for 27 days of emotional injury, and $15,000 for false arrest. The remaining 1,246 days of imprisonment—after the Board of Immigration Appeals decided children of unmarried Jamaicans couldn’t use their paternity to claim American citizenship—were legally justified, since the government had fair reason from then on to think that Watson was “a non-citizen.”

Instead of issuing the apology Weinstein called for, the government appealed his ruling. Earlier this summer, a split three-judge Court of Appeals panel issued an unprecedented reversal of his decision, with Judges Dennis Jacobs and Debra Livingston deciding that Watson was, in fact, owed nothing since “the government did not act with malice” even in those first 27 days, since there’s no tort in New York that lines up with what happened to him after an ICE agent simply assigned him new parents, and since “Watson did not suffer cognizable damages” because he hadn’t been legally employed when he was arrested.

Remarkably, they also determined that Watson’s two-year clock to sue began to run on the 27th day of his incarceration—1,246 days before he was unceremoniously released in Alabama and 2,001 days before he finally received the certificate from the government showing that he was, in fact, a citizen.
 
State Sen. Daniel Biss dropped Chicago Ald. Carlos Ramirez-Rosa as his running mate in his bid to be the Democratic candidate for Illinois governor Wednesday.

"Carlos Ramirez-Rosa and I have reached a difficult decision about our ticket. As of today, I’ll be moving forward with a new running mate," Biss said in a statement announcing the decision less than a week after revealing Ramirez-Rosa as his choice for lieutenant governor.

The change came after backlash - including a lost endorsement - over Ramirez-Rosa's support of the Palestinian-led "Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions" movement calling for boycotts of companies that do business with Israel.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/war...ramirez-rosa-illinois-governor-442930773.html
 
He's receiving a lot of backlash on social media for booting Rosa out. May as well just end his candidacy, as he's angered plenty of people who backed the campaign.
 
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Sanders, Warren, Harris.* Solid.

Edit: also, they're all Bernie bros now :smirk:
 


How did this bigoted juror get selected in the first place?

If he was openly making these racist remarks to the lawyers of the defense team, then you would think he may have said something during the jury selection process which would have raised concerns with the judge.
 
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Bernie introduced his bill today: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/bernie-sanders-medicare-single-payer.html
From memory, Gillibrand, Harris, Booker, Franken, Warren, are yes. fecking Manchin is a maybe!
OTOH, Schumer, Wyden, Feinstein, Leahy are no. (Also Pelosi).

So, it looks like a bill that separates potential 2020 candidates from older Dems. But I don't understand Manchin.

Edit: 15 co-sponsors, but I don't know the definite nos. But it's wider than the 2020 field. And I'm assuming, opposition is now wider than older Dems.
 
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