US Politics
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If you ask me, I would put him as the frontrunner for 2024 to let Joe Biden ride into the sunset. I think Newsom is by far the best bet that Democrats have in order to restore some faith in the Office of the President of the United States. Gotta need someone with energy, never shy of taking the fight in Republican territory (like Fox News).
Call me crazy but he actually sounds like a cool headed centre left politician in America. Such a thing can exist?
Fun fact: He used to be married to Don Jr’s current girlfriend
The best is yet to come one?
He seems to be smelling blood , definitely trying to get his name out in time for the 24 primary, should get it without any hassle as well if biden declines to run again but I don't fancy his chances against neither trump or DeSantis.
I think you're gravely mistaken, he'll get smoked by either trump or DeSantis if we go into recession (which we seem to be unfortunately).
Democrats best chance for 24 is either someone like polis(Colorado's govenor) or biden himself (he's the incumbent after all) , someone who has such an elitist aura about him will do terribly in the states that matter , would end up badly in my opinion.
Too big to fail.
Slavery was the first word that came to my mind as well. Surely in a 100 years either we will be living under military rule of corporations or a Star Trek society with money obsolete.
Possibly more evil than Turtle.
Today, for some reason, I got to thinking about the US and how it seems to go back & forth so much with regard to civil liberties, etc
It went through slavery, then Jim Crow, anti Chinese laws, prohibition, Japanese American internments, McCarthyism, civil rights issues in the 1960s, political assassinations, and since 2016 the trump admin and its legacy which is leading towards more restrictions, not to mention the insurrection. It’s crazy how it keeps going in cycles where the crazy comes out.
As good as the US is, it’s also subject to these periods that occur very frequently.
It went through slavery, then Jim Crow, anti Chinese laws, prohibition, Japanese American internments, McCarthyism, civil rights issues in the 1960s, political assassinations, and since 2016 the trump admin and its legacy which is leading towards more restrictions, not to mention the insurrection. It’s crazy how it keeps going in cycles where the crazy comes out.
As good as the US is, it’s also subject to these periods that occur very frequently.
Give this a listen.
https://www.sceneonradio.org/the-land-that-never-has-been-yet/
Over the past few years, the survival of the United States as a democratic republic has become a topic of national conversation—Trumpian authoritarianism; voter suppression and gerrymandering; concerns about foreign intervention, election security, and the role of money in politics.
Our twelve-part Season 4 series on democracy touches on those concerns but goes much deeper, effectively retelling the story of the United States from its beginnings up to the present as we complicate, maybe upend, our listeners’ understanding of American history. Our series title, The Land That Never Has Been Yet, is borrowed from the Langston Hughes poem, “Let America Be America Again.”
They re-broadcasted ep 8 after Jan 6, with some extra comments, if you ever get there.
https://www.sceneonradio.org/rebroadcast-s4-e8-the-second-redemption/
Please elaborate, which parts are "good"??
The parts where you can get shot at any moment, at any place?
Just curious, as there is very little, if anything that I would say is "good" about America.
California.
Home to Google. Twitter. Tesla, Apple.
All these parts are good, right?
A lot of Americans are salt of the earth types. Really nice people. Unfortunately there are way too many crazy types.
I’ve been here over 30 years and yet to see a gun pulled, not to mind fired.
maybe I’ve been lucky but of course in a county of 350m people you’re going to get some weird shit going on.
Still, I’m actively looking for a way out for myself (which really includes making sure my wife and kids will leave too).
Home to Google. Twitter. Tesla, Apple.
All these parts are good, right?
A lot of Americans are salt of the earth types. Really nice people. Unfortunately there are way too many crazy types.
I’ve been here over 30 years and yet to see a gun pulled, not to mind fired.
maybe I’ve been lucky but of course in a county of 350m people you’re going to get some weird shit going on.
Still, I’m actively looking for a way out for myself (which really includes making sure my wife and kids will leave too).
i think small a america which would include most americans is fine. big A America including the state which is basically a corporate plaything these days is fundamentally fecked and in dire need of change.
Ahh yes, Californa, home to the companies that pay no tax, wow, if that is the best or the good part of America.........
When pushing companies that pay no tax as the best of a country, you know that country is beyond help, beyond all redemption.
Well put. Never heard it like this before & agree.
Didn’t know you knew how to capitalize letters!
Only a matter of time unfortunately…
True the tax code needs a massive overhaul. You don’t like their products?
Out of curiosity, where do you live?
If not the US, have you lived here before?
Nope, I have not lived in the US, been on holiday as a wee child, to Disney land, but that was over 25 years ago now.
So you have no idea about what parts are good.
Thanks for posting this. Have listened to the first two episodes so far and am really enjoying it.
I'm getting some odd feeling about 2024. As if everyone's just waiting for the 2024 election and multiple current events are building up to it.
- What to do about inflation?
- Will the culture war get more heated and potentially violent?
- Will Trump make another run?
- Will the Dems go with Biden again?
- Will the US still support Ukraine with money and weapons?
- Will abortion become a hot topic in the 2024 election?
1. By 2024 this is likely a minimal issue (hopefully)
2. 100%
3. 10000000% (+/- 5 billionity % depending on if he has been indicted)
4. Doubtful, but who knows.
5. Depends on who wins, although I hope this is a non issue by 2024!!!!!!!
6. Absolutely from the Dem side and GOP primary, but I bet the GOP hopes it goes away in the general.
So which country do you live in?
The US has a lot of issues but it also has some positives. California in particular can be amazing.
I think I have seen a few people say that. If I may ask, looking for a way out to where?
I’ve mentioned it on here. I have tried to convince my wife to consider Canada (to no avail, 3 winters in WI was enough to ban a northern move forever) and we have discussed Ireland as well. Family
is keeping us here but we would be gone in a heartbeat if not for that.
We all have Irish passports. I just got my kids their 10 year passports too.
So ireland, and maybe somewhere nicer in the winter.
Not surprising when you see who those 18 are, but that doesn't make them less of a waste of oxygen. They are worth being dropped in Moscow.
Not even sure what thread to put this in but it genuinely made me chuckle
The dollar is “finally” more vulable than the Euro so we win.
