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and people are worried that critical race theory is being taught in schools... what a crazy country

You'll have some/many on the right claiming it's just her opinion while creating false equivalences and red herrings while complaining about CRT and "erasing our history" IRT Civil War stuff. Perhaps it ends up on a Hannity or Ingraham segment without full context.
 
and people are worried that critical race theory is being taught in schools... what a crazy country
Funnily enough a Republican senator Rick Scott just brought up CRT on CNN to deflect from allegations one of his party's candidates choked his wife and abused his kids.
 
Not that I go anywhere that I would notice it on campus, but I'm curious how many Chinese students at American universities are being monitored and harassed by the Chinese government. There have been a number of articles over the past several years about the increasingly brazen attempts to punish Chinese students abroad who speak out. I remember reading about incidents in the US and Australia where pro-Hong Kong flyers were vandalized during the Umbrella protests.

Have read those stories from Australia but not from the US.

Not sure of the political implications, but at least a few of the Chinese students here have *very* rich parents.

In general (domestic+foreign students), at least among bio undergrads, the attitude towards politics seems to be disinterest.

Kind of related - (indian) friend of a friend at a university in a big US city is doing a phd on kashmiri literature. she was told that someone from the consulate recorded a small protest rally she was at.

...

MTG and Farrakhan, rainbow coalition reincarnated.

 
So almost a year into the biden presidency and it looks like the mid terms could be a disaster for the dems... infighting and low presidential poll ratings and probably a summer of critical race theory arguments to come ...

And as always with the 4 year cycles it will be next year that people really start to shape up to make a run for the nomination

From this side of the pond it looks like the republican side of things will be fairly straightforwards with trump probabky running and being in pole position to secure the nomination... unless something actually moves forward with one of his many legal cases... and should that happen de sanctis, haley and cruz ready to make a run.

The democratic nomination could be a bloodbath I think... obviousley biden if he runs again but if he does not I cant think of a recent time a one term president didn't run...

Campaigns for nominations are normally fairly rough on party unity and the dems are already stretched ...

Kamala & buttigieg perhaps being the more centrist options with perhaps aoc or Jamal bowman being options from the progressive wing (possibly Warren again though she flopped pretty badly last time) ... but I can certainly see a campaign that splits rather than unifies the Democrats

I can see it being a really messy divisive couple of years... is there anybody who could run and actually bring America together?

From the outside biden looks finished and I cant see him running for a second term... and I cant see two years of a republican house / Senate allowing him to achieve anything
 
Have read those stories from Australia but not from the US.

Not sure of the political implications, but at least a few of the Chinese students here have *very* rich parents.

In general (domestic+foreign students), at least among bio undergrads, the attitude towards politics seems to be disinterest.

Kind of related - (indian) friend of a friend at a university in a big US city is doing a phd on kashmiri literature. she was told that someone from the consulate recorded a small protest rally she was at.

This story isn't directly student-related, but it is about Chinese government agents going abroad to coerce or blackmail expats into returning to China. There was another story from September about a Chinese student in Canada being threatened by the Chinese government.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...pe-beijings-threats-over-online-activity.html

I know the International House mentions scammers calling threatening to revoke students' passports or visas. I've seen stories of those instances in the US and UK where apparently mostly Asian students end up scammed out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. (https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2019/02/scammers-go-after-international-students-money) I would imagine students whose parents are really loaded are the most attractive targets.

Given the social credit system and general surveillance in China, it would hardly be surprising that they're monitoring students abroad.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/06/...e/how-chinas-long-reach-repression-undermines

As for the Indian thing, I haven't heard about that, but I wouldn't be surprised, especially in larger cities. I guess they could justify monitoring the protests relating to Kashmir on supposed national security grounds. Especially for a Modi/BJP government.
 
This story isn't directly student-related, but it is about Chinese government agents going abroad to coerce or blackmail expats into returning to China. There was another story from September about a Chinese student in Canada being threatened by the Chinese government.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...pe-beijings-threats-over-online-activity.html

I know the International House mentions scammers calling threatening to revoke students' passports or visas. I've seen stories of those instances in the US and UK where apparently mostly Asian students end up scammed out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. (https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2019/02/scammers-go-after-international-students-money) I would imagine students whose parents are really loaded are the most attractive targets.

Given the social credit system and general surveillance in China, it would hardly be surprising that they're monitoring students abroad.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/06/...e/how-chinas-long-reach-repression-undermines

As for the Indian thing, I haven't heard about that, but I wouldn't be surprised, especially in larger cities. I guess they could justify monitoring the protests relating to Kashmir on supposed national security grounds. Especially for a Modi/BJP government.

This is exactly the fiction I'm talking about.

Those masked as non profits is actually funded by the CIA as black campaign contributors to bash China. And many other countries that doesnt fit the US agenda.

Papua, benny wenda, etc. You name it.

Those are just that. Stories, made with pseudo trick, dark gloomy color, filtered photos, some source known, snipets of fabricated lies sprinkled with " i fear " and all subjective dispositions of personal point of view that's treated as some kind of cold hard facts.

They're not even subtle about it. Here's a few examples of blatant fiction by the MSM

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Fox News literally blurred out signs of pro-government protestors to try to pass it off as antigovernmental protests

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^fake news using selective cut and paste. 10 out of 26 doctors in Indonesia died.

And many others.

Bonus :
https://www.ned.org
 
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This is exactly the fiction I'm talking about.

Those masked as non profits is actually funded by the CIA as black campaign contributors to bash China. And many other countries that doesnt fit the US agenda.

Papua, benny wenda, etc. You name it.

Those are just that. Stories, made with pseudo trick, dark gloomy color, filtered photos, some source known, snipets of fabricated lies sprinkled with " i fear "

Aren't you one of the resident Uighur persecution deniers? The first story includes actual indictments so that one is totally made up, obviously.
 
Fox news is not MSM, the fact that anyone would claim otherwise should make you deeply suspect their underlying biases.
 


Of course, it will mean nothing if the AG keeps on sitting on his hands.
 
So almost a year into the biden presidency and it looks like the mid terms could be a disaster for the dems... infighting and low presidential poll ratings and probably a summer of critical race theory arguments to come ...

And as always with the 4 year cycles it will be next year that people really start to shape up to make a run for the nomination

From this side of the pond it looks like the republican side of things will be fairly straightforwards with trump probabky running and being in pole position to secure the nomination... unless something actually moves forward with one of his many legal cases... and should that happen de sanctis, haley and cruz ready to make a run.

The democratic nomination could be a bloodbath I think... obviousley biden if he runs again but if he does not I cant think of a recent time a one term president didn't run...

Campaigns for nominations are normally fairly rough on party unity and the dems are already stretched ...

Kamala & buttigieg perhaps being the more centrist options with perhaps aoc or Jamal bowman being options from the progressive wing (possibly Warren again though she flopped pretty badly last time) ... but I can certainly see a campaign that splits rather than unifies the Democrats

I can see it being a really messy divisive couple of years... is there anybody who could run and actually bring America together?

From the outside biden looks finished and I cant see him running for a second term... and I cant see two years of a republican house / Senate allowing him to achieve anything
I don't see anything other than a GOP sweep next year at least in the house, his approval ratings are tanking for a number of different reasons but to me inflation is THE albatross in the neck that is visibly hurting his reputation when Americans see soaring commodity prices.

I'd say personally just about the only person I see in the democratic side that can get somewhere in the near future is Tim Ryan, and he's running for senate in Ohio which is just about the only big surprise against a wave election that I can foresee. And if he doesn't win the senate any time soon he'll be redistricted out of his office.
 
I don't see anything other than a GOP sweep next year at least in the house, his approval ratings are tanking for a number of different reasons but to me inflation is THE albatross in the neck that is visibly hurting his reputation when Americans see soaring commodity prices.

I'd say personally just about the only person I see in the democratic side that can get somewhere in the near future is Tim Ryan, and he's running for senate in Ohio which is just about the only big surprise against a wave election that I can foresee. And if he doesn't win the senate any time soon he'll be redistricted out of his office.
Tim Ryan... ran against Pelosi for speaker once?
Tried for president in 2020 but didn't get much traction?

Don't know much else about him but I think he's gonna need to raise a lot of money in 2022 if he's going to make a realistic run
 
Tim Ryan... ran against Pelosi for speaker once?
Tried for president in 2020 but didn't get much traction?

Don't know much else about him but I think he's gonna need to raise a lot of money in 2022 if he's going to make a realistic run
Articulates and convinces his points well, passionate orator, and reaches out to the needs of the average American. There's a dearth of that in the DNC right now and I believe currently they're looking at the wrong people to promote within the party because your usual frontrunners like Kamala and Buttigieg have the charisma of wet noodle, and Biden is clearly past it.

I mean, if I was a DNC strategist I would at least consider putting a good sum of money on his senate campaign. Ohio's GOP candidates aren't that strong right despite its conservative lean.
 
Articulates and convinces his points well, passionate orator, and reaches out to the needs of the average American. There's a dearth of that in the DNC right now and I believe currently they're looking at the wrong people to promote within the party because your usual frontrunners like Kamala and Buttigieg have the charisma of wet noodle, and Biden is clearly past it.

I mean, if I was a DNC strategist I would at least consider putting a good sum of money on his senate campaign. Ohio's GOP candidates aren't that strong right despite its conservative lean.
I must admit I don't think buttigieg or kamala are going to worry the republicans... and they would be rubbing their hands at facing an aoc type so yeah finding an articulate and passionate orator without too much political baggage would be a good shout.
 
I must admit I don't think buttigieg or kamala are going to worry the republicans... and they would be rubbing their hands at facing an aoc type so yeah finding an articulate and passionate orator without too much political baggage would be a good shout.

If I were Pete, I'd stick around on his Transportation Secretary job for another year then quit and run for Prez again. He seemed to have some momentum before the Obama/Biden cabal snuffed out the opposition around Super Tuesday. Harris has no appeal imo.
 
No chance the passing of the infrastructure bill is going to give them a bump?

It could provide a slight bump but the Dems are too diversified to maintain a political base at the moment. To win big elections, they need support from Sanders to Manchin, all the while not having a tangible agenda that appeals to voters of both. The Rs on the other hand, are fairly homogenous and galvanized in supporting one guy. If the above numbers hold up, this could be the bloodiest mid-term cycle of them all.
 
Don't midterms generally go well for the party that isn't occupying the White House? I mean, is it unexpected that the Dems might do bad in 2022 if you look at midterm historical voting patterns?
 
It could provide a slight bump but the Dems are too diversified to maintain a political base at the moment. To win big elections, they need support from Sanders to Manchin, all the while not having a tangible agenda that appeals to voters of both. The Rs on the other hand, are fairly homogenous and galvanized in supporting one guy. If the above numbers hold up, this could be the bloodiest mid-term cycle of them all.

I'm really dreading Trump in 2024. It's incredible how he managed to walk away from January 6th still the undisputed leader of the GOP, and honestly probably in even more control than ever. The few dissenting voices are all being pushed out, and the base is fully behind him. The base wasn't enough in 2020, but that was when Biden was just boring, as opposed to strictly unpopular (and not swimming in excitement from his own base, certainly nothing like Trump).

Even if Trump loses in 2024, which he easily could, it probably wouldn't be a very large win. And the GOP has proven themselves perfectly willing to directly challenge democratic norms. The base is largely behind the idea the election was stolen, which is a short hop and a skip to believing that elections don't matter and they too need to do everything it takes to win. But it's getting even worse, since many elections officials - and others at state level who didn't play along with Trump's very explicit requests/demands to overturn a democratic election - are now in the process of being replaced with people who at least publicly are saying they would do it differently.

Maybe a Dem disaster in 2022 is going to be a warning shot that the Dems and their voters need. Or not.
 
Don't midterms generally go well for the party that isn't occupying the White House? I mean, is it unexpected that the Dems might do bad in 2022 if you look at midterm historical voting patterns?
Yep. Oppo party has done well, especially recently.
 
I'm really dreading Trump in 2024.

Maybe a Dem disaster in 2022 is going to be a warning shot that the Dems and their voters need. Or not.

Although trump certainly looks the favourite there is still enough legal cases working their way through that it could be somebody else who eventually emerges (Ron De Sanctis or Nikki Haley would be my gut feel as non trump favourites)

As for the dems if they loose control of both houses in 2022 then that's going to really hurt them as they wont be able to get anything meaningful passed - and I suspect the implementation of anything they have passed will be help up significantly... cant see biden running again... cant see a good unifying alternative... yeah its not looking great for them
 
Although trump certainly looks the favourite there is still enough legal cases working their way through that it could be somebody else who eventually emerges (Ron De Sanctis or Nikki Haley would be my gut feel as non trump favourites)

As for the dems if they loose control of both houses in 2022 then that's going to really hurt them as they wont be able to get anything meaningful passed - and I suspect the implementation of anything they have passed will be help up significantly... cant see biden running again... cant see a good unifying alternative... yeah its not looking great for them
If Republicans take the House and Senate in 2022 they’re going to go all in on voter suppression and it’s game over for Democrats full stop from then on. End of Democracy full stop.
 
No chance the passing of the infrastructure bill is going to give them a bump?
I don't think so, at least not after the immediate celebrations. Sure, a legislative victory but it will be soon forgotten in the face of rising consumer prices. The average person is not going to be severely affected by this bill.

I was unsure of a red wave next year due to Trump's general unpopularity and Newsom handily fighting off recall, but the election earlier this month pretty much sealed the deal unless something drastic happens. I'm even starting to see polls give Trump early advantage for a hypothetical 2024 vs Biden, something I've never seen since Trump stepped down that escalator.

I'm really dreading Trump in 2024. It's incredible how he managed to walk away from January 6th still the undisputed leader of the GOP, and honestly probably in even more control than ever. The few dissenting voices are all being pushed out, and the base is fully behind him. The base wasn't enough in 2020, but that was when Biden was just boring, as opposed to strictly unpopular (and not swimming in excitement from his own base, certainly nothing like Trump).

Even if Trump loses in 2024, which he easily could, it probably wouldn't be a very large win. And the GOP has proven themselves perfectly willing to directly challenge democratic norms. The base is largely behind the idea the election was stolen, which is a short hop and a skip to believing that elections don't matter and they too need to do everything it takes to win. But it's getting even worse, since many elections officials - and others at state level who didn't play along with Trump's very explicit requests/demands to overturn a democratic election - are now in the process of being replaced with people who at least publicly are saying they would do it differently.

Maybe a Dem disaster in 2022 is going to be a warning shot that the Dems and their voters need. Or not.
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I'm actually quite surprised by this too. I thought Trump would be politically toast after J6 and would go away to live out the rest of the life in peace and quiet but the exact opposite is happening.
 
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I'm actually quite surprised by this too. I thought Trump would be politically toast after J6 and would go away to live out the rest of the life in peace and quiet but the exact opposite is happening.

It just goes to show that the last 25 years of extreme partisanship (thanks Newt Gingrich, you utter cnut) has totally undermined the foundations of US democracy. 2024 looks like being absolutely terrifying, and there seems no realistic way that's going to change before then.
 
Democrats have only themselves to blame. They are paid to lose. They have learned nothing from 2010, and as long as corporations run the country , they never will