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MrMarcello said:
That guy was like a real life Cosmo Kramer. I'm convinced that face and ears are some elaborate disguise.
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He looks like the sherminator all grown up

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Drifter said:
He's getting foggy in his old age. No one as fought harder for Corporate money to have more power in American politics.
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but he's still saying it!
" ‘I’m not talking about political contributions, he adds. "

i know it's long past the point to marvel at the contradictions in party lines, but he's just laying out the contradiction himself in the same paragraph.
money =speech = good, speech = bad.
 
I think posting vague twitter links without context should be a temp thread ban offense.

Trying to work these things out is hurting me brain. Plus no way am I opening a link with that twitter handle while at work.
 
berbatrick said:
but he's still saying it!
" ‘I’m not talking about political contributions, he adds. "

i know it's long past the point to marvel at the contradictions in party lines, but he's just laying out the contradiction himself in the same paragraph.
money =speech = good, speech = bad.
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He seems to have backtracked now.

"I didn't say that very artfully yesterday day," McConnell admitted.

"They're certainly entitled to be involved in politics. They are. My principal complaint is they didn't read the darn bill," McConnell said.
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entropy said:
@Caius big banks are heavily invested in private prisons. I don't see it ending anytime soon. Especially now that budget cuts will become the operating norm thanks to covid.
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I'm not hopeful either, although private prisons hold a small enough portion of the overall incarcerated population (8.1%) that, combined with say sensible drug law reform that leads to fewer incarcerations, they could become wholly unnecessary in the future. Though I don't suppose they are necessary now either, very frustrating situation in general.
 
calodo2003 said:
Rock on with your faith, just don’t try to pass off a fairytale as science & force it on others...

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/apr/07/panel-advances-bill-to-let-teachers-talk/
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The sheer number of Americans who base their entire world view on fairy tales is one of the biggest problems in our country. And not just any fairy tales, but like the gospel of wealth and other insanely destructive, non-golden rule based ideas. Trump simply does not become president if millions of Americans were not preconditioned to allow others to think for them. I really believe that people use the expectation that God is watching over everything and has a plan as an excuse/justification not to deal with or try to fix real serious issues in society.
 
Caius said:
The sheer number of Americans who base their entire world view on fairy tales is one of the biggest problems in our country. And not just any fairy tales, but like the gospel of wealth and other insanely destructive, non-golden rule based ideas. Trump simply does not become president if millions of Americans were not preconditioned to allow others to think for them. I really believe that people use the expectation that God is watching over everything and has a plan as an excuse/justification not to deal with or try to fix real serious issues in society.
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It’s also the particular flavor of fairytale belief. The fusion of christian dominionism & the evangelical delusion, coupled with its stranglehold on the ignorant & its longtime subsuming of politics at every level, had led this country to have tens of millions of mental deficients who exist in a completely alternative & dangerous state of mind.
 
WI_Red said:
no need for that part since the rest of the post is spot on.

Religion has no place in public schools. Period.
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It’s a fairytale, brother. It’s fictional. Sorry, this is a belief that I have held since I was ten or eleven. No problem with fiction personally, but when one marshals their life through it & imposes it on the others, that’s unacceptable.

It’s dangerous, especially in the current flavors that are in vogue & the current number of willing adherents.

Faith can do a lot of good to those who hold it, but the damage it can also cause has been evident over time. Religion is divisive at its core, the results of such division are not going away.
 
calodo2003 said:
It’s a fairytale, brother. It’s fictional. Sorry, this is a belief that I have held since I was ten or eleven. No problem with fiction personally, but when one marshals their life through it & imposes it on the others, that’s unacceptable.

It’s dangerous, especially in the current flavors that are in vogue & the current number of willing adherents.

Faith can do a lot of good to those who hold it, but the damage it can also cause has been evident over time. Religion is divisive at its core, the results of such division are not going away.
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well, that’s something we will just have to disagree on.

Accepting people for who they are and what they believe without mocking should be a default mindset.

The exception to this is those whose beliefs, or their interpretation of those beliefs, causes harm or injury to anyone else.

for instance, those people in the story? Mock the crap out of them and their attempts to inject religion in school.

Anyways, just my thoughts.

oh, except college Republicans, cuz feck those guys. (Actually even them)
 
I thought part of the belief in the fairytale meant that you couldn't accept people with different fairytale beliefs.
 
WI_Red said:
well, that’s something we will just have to disagree on.

Accepting people for who they are and what they believe without mocking should be a default mindset.

The exception to this is those whose beliefs, or their interpretation of those beliefs, causes harm or injury to anyone else.

for instance, those people in the story? Mock the crap out of them and their attempts to inject religion in school.

Anyways, just my thoughts.

oh, except college Republicans, cuz feck those guys. (Actually even them)
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It’s not mocking, it’s literally true. Sure, there’s some pejorative in the term, but that doesn’t negate the simple fact that it is virtually all fiction save for some historically verified actors. Fairytales aren’t bad by design, it’s when you marshal your life through them & consider them sacrosanct, that’s where problems exist.

The term ‘fable’ could also be used, but it doesn’t quite convey what ‘fairytale’ does. That little bit of mockery comes from disbelief & affront.

We will have to agree to disagree. At least we won't be reported for it.
 
Blodssvik said:
Didn't she previously infer that criticizing her is violence?
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not saying this didn’t happen, but why the hell would the CHP be doing this? I didn’t think that this was in their remit/jurisdiction. Not sure if you can/want to comment @choiboyx012? I just never heard of the CHP doing anything like this when I lived in LA.
 
This Georgia election law is confusing. Republicans say it's "expanding" voter access, Democrats say it's voter suppression.

Seriously, what is it? What is the truth here?
 
VorZakone said:
This Georgia election law is confusing. Republicans say it's "expanding" voter access, Democrats say it's voter suppression.

Seriously, what is it? What is the truth here?
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There is some aspects of it that does expand access; there is more that restricts it.

The parts that do restrict it seem to disproportionately affect low income & rural voters. There’s also a racial aspect as to who will get disaffected. It’s vague enough that the right will argue against such.
 
calodo2003 said:
There is some aspects of it that does expand access; there is more that restricts it.

The parts that do restrict it seem to disproportionately affect low income & rural voters. There’s also a racial aspect as to who will get disaffected. It’s vague enough that the right will argue against such.
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The ID requirements mainly?

I've read this article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56650565
 
VorZakone said:
The ID requirements mainly?

I've read this article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56650565
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The drop box reductions limit accessibility. The restriction on mail in voting is limiting. The shift of power from SecState to State Election Board is demoralizing, as is the food / water restriction. Runoff election will be shorter.

There’s good & bad in the bill. It’s not as rosy as the right wing makes it out to be, but it’s not as terrible as the left wing makes it out to be.

But, to me, on balance, it isn’t good.
 
calodo2003 said:
The drop box reductions limit accessibility. The restriction on mail in voting is limiting. The shift of power from SecState to State Election Board is demoralizing, as is the food / water restriction. Runoff election will be shorter.

There’s good & bad in the bill. It’s not as rosy as the right wing makes it out to be, but it’s not as terrible as the left wing makes it out to be.

But, to me, on balance, it isn’t good.
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for me the scariest part is the power the election board (completely dominated by R's) to fire and replace local election boards with whoever they want. We saw in Michigan the chaos the EB's can cause.
 
WI_Red said:
for me the scariest part is the power the election board (completely dominated by R's) to fire and replace local election boards with whoever they want. We saw in Michigan the chaos the EB's can cause.
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This is appalling. This subjectivity is so demoralizing.

What’s so short sighted is that the tables can turn immediately once a Dem governor gets elected. I could see Georgia state Dems using it to their absolute advantage once a Dem governor is installed.
 
calodo2003 said:
This is appalling. This subjectivity is so demoralizing.

What’s so short sighted is that the tables can turn immediately once a Dem governor gets elected. I could see Georgia state Dems using it to their absolute advantage once a Dem governor is installed.
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Speaking of elections. I found my new favorite gerrymandered state. Ladies and gentlemen, may I present Louisiana:

Only Republicans would be cool with squeezing NoLa AND Baton Rouge into one district.

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