US Politics

It's surprising about Russia being communist still according to a lot of Americans. They are as much communists as Josh Hawley.

I don't think there is any communist country now. Those ex communist countries are right wing dictatorships now.
I met a Canadian who complains about those socialists and then in the same breath complain about inadequate healthcare in Canada ( how long he has to wait etc) and how he had to pay back his student loan ( he thinks he should have had subsidised education) and support Trump because he is against socialists.

Cuba, maybe?

Obviously even they are not the kind of communism envisaged by Marx and Engels, but they're not like China or North Korea at least (neither of whom are communist, for different reasons).
 
Cuba, maybe?

Obviously even they are not the kind of communism envisaged by Marx and Engels, but they're not like China or North Korea at least (neither of whom are communist, for different reasons).
And North Korea. From what I know, Laos and Vietnam have a similar system to China (economically capitalist).
 
I wouldn't call what North Korea is doing communism either. They're their own crazy experiment.
It is quite similar to many previous commie regimes (Albania for example). Actually, it is similar to Mao's China and Stalin's URSS, though obviously smaller and poorer.
 
I don't really think that's an entirely fair comparison. North Korea is easily the most totalitarian state which has ever existed. He looked at Stalin's cult of personality and control scheme and thought "I can do better". North Korea is obviously similar to other totalitarian dictatorships in the totalitarian side of things, but they're also going way further on things like self-sufficiency (which is sadly ironic given how many people starve whenever their aid is cut off).

Basically, I'd say they're about as similar to Mao's China and Stalin's USSR as they are to Hitler's Germany (and maybe in his dreams: Mussolini's Italy).
 
I don't really think that's an entirely fair comparison. North Korea is easily the most totalitarian state which has ever existed. He looked at Stalin's cult of personality and control scheme and thought "I can do better". North Korea is obviously similar to other totalitarian dictatorships in the totalitarian side of things, but they're also going way further on things like self-sufficiency (which is sadly ironic given how many people starve whenever their aid is cut off).

Basically, I'd say they're about as similar to Mao's China and Stalin's USSR as they are to Hitler's Germany (and maybe in his dreams: Mussolini's Italy).
If you look into Enver Hoxha’s Albania, it was actually quite similar in style to North Korea. He essentially cut ties with USSR after Stalin’s death and heavily criticized USSR for not being commie enough. And letter cut ties with China for not being true commies.

I don’t agree with Hitler/Mussolini thingy. They had relatively capitalist economies (though state directed). North Korea has still totally socialist economy.
 
If you look into Enver Hoxha’s Albania, it was actually quite similar in style to North Korea. He essentially cut ties with USSR after Stalin’s death and heavily criticized USSR for not being commie enough. And letter cut ties with China for not being true commies.

I'm not too informed on Hoxha's Albania, so I will concede the point.

I don’t agree with Hitler/Mussolini thingy. They had relatively capitalist economies (though state directed). North Korea has still totally socialist economy.

They had technically capitalist economies, but only in some senses of the word. "Relatively capitalist" is a stretch. They were also both, for example, obsessed about self-sufficiency. Hitler in particular, which makes some sense when you consider his world view combined with the domestic suffering in Germany in WW1. *They also both did what North Korea did (and the Soviet Union did), which is to subsume worker's unions into the state, to be run by and completely dominated by its own needs.

On North Korea, I very much disagree. There is no worker ownership of the means of production, so it basically, by definition, can't be a socialist economy. Having five year plans (or whatever North Korea operates on) and a lack of private property does not mean it's socialist.

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And North Korea. From what I know, Laos and Vietnam have a similar system to China (economically capitalist).

yes and they are not communist at all. They are totalitarian capitalist countries. So long as you do not get involved in politics you can do any business you want and get as rich as you want. I have never seen an artificial indoor public beach in any western country but I saw one in Chengdu in Wuhan. I have never seen more high end cars in any western city as much as I have seen in China. It is a disgrace that they call themselves Communist Party of China. They are giving communists a very bad name.
 
This is probably the only semi-realistic shot at M4A - lowering the age in increments until they reach a tipping point where half the population have it, at which point it would be impossible to justify not having it for everyone.
Pretty much. Just wished it wasn't just a small change(Over 50's would have been a better goal).
 
I have a question for the Americans here. Why do a lot of Americans consider universal healthcare as socialist or communist?
Think some of it is that it pierces the veneer of American exceptionalism, more specifically white American exceptionalism (which is basically all it is).
 
yes and they are not communist at all. They are totalitarian capitalist countries. So long as you do not get involved in politics you can do any business you want and get as rich as you want. I have never seen an artificial indoor public beach in any western country but I saw one in Chengdu in Wuhan. I have never seen more high end cars in any western city as much as I have seen in China. It is a disgrace that they call themselves Communist Party of China. They are giving communists a very bad name.
I would describe them as a mixed communist/capitalist semi democratic dictatorship. It's confusing. I know. :D
 
Israel has national health care too. So I wonder what the people who say it's communist to have national health care?
 
WTF is he talking about??????


Didn't you hear? The insurrection on Wednesday was actual an invasion by Cuban special forces. I mean look at the pictures, it's obvious!

Actually it's just him currying favor with Cubans in Florida for his 24 presidential bid.
 



is he allowed to say that?!



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He's doing last minute checklist of things Republicans want, that if reversed they can use against Biden later. He also labelled the Houthis as a terror group today.
So, sort of like opening up more of the Alaska wildlife preserves to Big Oil at the last minute?
 
So anonymous intelligence sources have fed news outlets stories that Russia, China and Iran separately have been paying bounties for American heads in Afghanistan in the span of a few months. Evidence free as usual. Good times though for all the US security panic junkies here.