Unpopular (AKA fickle) opinion time on AWB.....

He is not good enough. As the last poster said lack of awareness. Everyone was blaming Lindeloff v Sevilla for their winner but AWB just let the forward go.

So no fecking awareness, needs to smarten up on when not to do his spider tackles & no cross in him.

Pool just bought Tzimkas & he was impressive v Imps on debut. We buy English over priced talent.
 
Russky14 said:
He is not good enough. As the last poster said lack of awareness. Everyone was blaming Lindeloff v Sevilla for their winner but AWB just let the forward go.

So no fecking awareness, needs to smarten up on when not to do his spider tackles & no cross in him.

Pool just bought Tzimkas & he was impressive v Imps on debut. We buy English over priced talent.
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Steady on AWB was brilliant for most of last season, he’s started slow like the rest of our players this season.

I agree his attacking needs work but for a defensive right back there’s not many better. We missed him last week against Palace.
 
I absolutely championed us signing Bissaka, thought he had it in him to be world class. Have I changed that opinion, to a degree yes.

However I do feel he is hampered with Greenwood in front of him, isolated when attackign as Greenwood comes inside and not helped enough defensively. This isnt criticising Greenwood who has obviously been excellent, but he isnt a winger. It isnt a coincidence for me Bissaka was better the first half of last season when he was playing with other players in front of him. There is no chemistry between the two, like you would get with Neville and Beckham for example. So this is why a right wing siging is doubly important for me.

However, that isnt a good enough excuse for where he is at the moment. I still think one on one he is superb, I also think moving forward he isnt as bad as lots of fans people make out....but I do worry a bit he may go the same way as SHaw who also had world class potential when we signed him, as he has similar weaknesses needs to seriously improve that Shaw hasnt sinc ehere. Positioning wise Bissaka needs huge improvement defensively, decision making with the ball he needs huge improvements (I have noticed this season so far he looks to be cycling the ball much quicker which I think is a request from coaching), he also needs to improve his corssing when he does drive forward as its a bit aimlessly aiming into an area........these are all weaknesses SHaw hasnt improved and both players really need to if they are to become excellent full backs rather than just decent ones.

Jury is out, I dont have the same faith as when we signed him...I do however feel with the right player in front of him, with development....he can still be a very good right back for us, but not world class sadly
 
Castia said:
Steady on AWB was brilliant for most of last season, he’s started slow like the rest of our players this season.

I agree his attacking needs work but for a defensive right back there’s not many better. We missed him last week against Palace.
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Stop pedalling this myth. He wasn't brilliant at all. Not even close.

Our fans always over hype new signings.
 
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His last ditch tackling is fantastic, but I feel he doesn't need to get into that position in the first place. He seems to give players space just so he can make that last ditch tackle. He can close people down before that.

There was a moment in about the 92nd minute when it was still 2-1 and he deliberately let the player run and then made a last ditch tackle to give away a corner. I fully expected Dunk to score. There was absolutely no need for it. He could have closed it down ages before and stopped any chance of a corner.
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I said this on here about six months ago and got grief for it. Funny how I've seen several people say this now.

He's very frustrating to watch, when he does go forward the last thought in his mind seems to be to cross it into the box. Like most of our players he appears to have been programmed to pass it backwards.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Stop pedalling this myth. He wasn't brilliant at all. Not even close.

Our fans always over hype new signings.
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You‘re saying he had a bad season? that’s bollocks.

He slowed towards the end of the season mainly due to him being fecking nakered after playing so many games but for the vast majority last season he was brilliant.
 
the fact that teams dont really mark him and we can switch the ball to to the right side so easily speaks volumes .
 
Castia said:
You‘re saying he had a bad season? that’s bollocks.

He slowed towards the end of the season mainly due to him being fecking nakered after playing so many games but for the vast majority last season he was brilliant.
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His season was neither bad nor brilliant.
 
Acole9 said:
I said this on here about six months ago and got grief for it. Funny how I've seen several people say this now.

He's very frustrating to watch, when he does go forward the last thought in his mind seems to be to cross it into the box. Like most of our players he appears to have been programmed to pass it backwards.
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Correct pass it backwards. Just Feckin cross it. Then again we have no proper striker. For me he needs to in the reserves & just do that. Problem no squad means no back up. He was knackered at the end of last season.

So we are in a virtuous circle. Years if mis management by Woody has led us to micro team discussions becoming macro ones. Shows the mess we are in.
 
Castia said:
You‘re saying he had a bad season? that’s bollocks.

He slowed towards the end of the season mainly due to him being fecking nakered after playing so many games but for the vast majority last season he was brilliant.
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He can't play football mate. His control and general passing ability is miles behind what it needs to be.

His last ditch tackles have the untrained eye thinking he's class. People are now seeing what I did in 2019. He's nowhere near good enough.

He's behind Walker, Trent and Reece James for England for good reason. They are all better players.
 
devilish said:
that's something that is happening with United on a regular basis. Players come in, they are initially great then their performance dip. It happened to Bailly, Rojo, Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria and now to AWB, Maguire and Bruno as well. Which makes you wonder if its down to coaching.
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Sanchez too :lol: His dip was the fastest ever, it lasted 1 or 2 games
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
He can't play football mate. His control and general passing ability is miles behind what it needs to be.

His last ditch tackles have the untrained eye thinking he's class. People are now seeing what I did in 2019. He's nowhere near good enough.

He's behind Walker, Trent and Reece James for England for good reason. They are all better players.
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Nothing beat these self appreciations :lol:
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
He can't play football mate. His control and general passing ability is miles behind what it needs to be.

His last ditch tackles have the untrained eye thinking he's class. People are now seeing what I did in 2019. He's nowhere near good enough.

He's behind Walker, Trent and Reece James for England for good reason. They are all better players.
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Trent is the best attacking right back in world football. He’d be fecking shit at United. We would leak goals from that side every fecking game because the defensive line up and all round tactic of our side is amateur hour stuff.

The defensive needs sorting, you could argue we need a new player in every position but AWB is far from our main problem at the back.
 
roonster09 said:
Nothing beat these self appreciations :lol:
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What can I say mate. I know my football.

Funny isn't it that Pogba n AWB were my two biggest devicive opinions on here last season and now look at the conversations. Lot of people finally waking up.

AWB is a terrific tackler. Doesn't make him a terrific player. He is incredibly poor in a lot of aspects of the game. We were robbed.
 
Castia said:
Trent is the best attacking right back in world football. He’d be fecking shit at United. We would leak goals from that side every fecking game because the defensive line up and all round tactic of our side is amateur hour stuff.

The defensive needs sorting, you could argue we need a new player in every position. AWB is far from our main problem at the back.
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At fault for both Sevilla goals. Worst player on pitch yesterday. How is he not one of the main problems? He's every bit one of the main issues at the back along with the rest.

People don't understand football if they think he's good enough to take us back to the top. Other than his slide tackles what's he actually good at? Poor in the air, poor at reading game and poor on the ball. He's not good enough.
 
A lot to learn in terms of positioning, I swear he just has these games every now and then where his concentration is absolutely shocking, and effort can be poor too.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
What can I say mate. I know my football.

Funny isn't it that Pogba n AWB were my two biggest devicive opinions on here last season and now look at the conversations. Lot of people finally waking up.

AWB is a terrific tackler. Doesn't make him a terrific player. He is incredibly poor in a lot of aspects of the game. We were robbed.
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In your opinion.

Then there are people who thinks you are talking nonsense, I mean the people who have opposite take on this.

Not my take btw, just these self appreciation posts are hilarious.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
At fault for both Sevilla goals. Worst player on pitch yesterday. How is he not one of the main problems? He's every bit one of the main issues at the back along with the rest.

People don't understand football if they think he's good enough to take us back to the top. Other than his slide tackles what's he actually good at? Poor in the air, poor at reading game and poor on the ball. He's not good enough.
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You’re picking bits you want to criticise though. I could turn around and say he was a MOTM candidate 3 times against City last season and had Sterling in his back pocket all 3 games.

For the most part he was good last season, there’s no argument in that it’s fact.
 
He can't play football. If he can't defend too, then he is as useful as me, you and everyother person.

Who ever sanctioned this transfer deserves to be sacked. It was so obvious that this lad wouldn't cut it.
 
roonster09 said:
In your opinion.

Then there are people who thinks you are talking nonsense, I mean the people who have opposite take on this.

Not my take btw, just these self appreciation posts are hilarious.
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What's he good at then other than a slide tackle? Change my mind. I'm not stubborn on stuff and have been known to change my mind on things.
 
Castia said:
You’re picking bits you want to criticise though. I could turn around and say he was a MOTM candidate 3 times against City last season and had Sterling in his back pocket all 3 games.

For the most part he was good last season, there’s no argument in that it’s fact.
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Good for a relegation/mid table standards yes.
 
Castia said:
You’re picking bits you want to criticise though. I could turn around and say he was a MOTM candidate 3 times against City last season and had Sterling in his back pocket all 3 games.

For the most part he was good last season, there’s no argument in that it’s fact.
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Disagree totally. Entitled to your opinion though just like I am.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
What's he good at then other than a slide tackle? Change my mind. I'm not stubborn on stuff and have been known to change my mind on things.
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Nice try. On the very first point lets agree to disagree.
 
Asger said:
I say it because we either overspend or giving them to much time to makeit f.e Gibson, Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, Smalling.
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How selective. How about Greenwood, Rashford, Rooney, Ferdinand? Did we give them too much time, did we overspend on them?

Not sure how to you say we overspent on Smalling. He’s been here a decade and cost £10m, and it likely to be sold for £15-20m. Jones hasn’t worked out.

We can bring my lots of failures from different countries. At least 50% of transfers can’t be considered great successes.

Di Maria, Tevez and Heinz all ended acrimoniously - should we never buy Argentinian players because it ends badly? I have purposely lift out Romero to prove the point of being selective.

Let’s also never buy Brazilian players, because they never work out.
 
A very good tackler on one to one situations, but his positioning is terrible. He seems to drift into the CB position and leave the wing wide open. He certainly needs coaching on this.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
The fact you can't answer my question makes me think you agree with me but don't want to agree with me. Hahahaha
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Again nice try. I had enough arguments and can see who can change their opinion and who will shift goal posts.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
How selective. How about Greenwood, Rashford, Rooney, Ferdinand? Did we give them too much time, did we overspend on them?

Not sure how to you say we overspent on Smalling. He’s been here a decade and cost £10m, and it likely to be sold for £15-20m. Jones hasn’t worked out.

We can bring my lots of failures from different countries. At least 50% of transfers can’t be considered great successes.

Di Maria, Tevez and Heinz all ended acrimoniously - should we never buy Argentinian players because it ends badly? I have purposely lift out Romero to prove the point of being selective.

Let’s also never buy Brazilian players, because they never work out.
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Never said Smalling was overspent, thats why I said OR, we have him too many seasons hoping he would be as good as Rio and Vidic were.
Greenwood and Rashfords are both homegrowms, I’m hoping Greenwood will be world class in the future but I can’t see Rashford being that.

Rooney was fantastic but he stayed to long just because of his reputation.
 
Bestietom said:
A very good tackler on one to one situations, but his positioning is terrible. He seems to drift into the CB position and leave the wing wide open. He certainly needs coaching on this.
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I am suspecting he did that on instruction. Last season he wasn't drifting.
 
Asger said:
Never said Smalling was overspent, thats why I said OR, we have him too many seasons hoping he would be as good as Rio and Vidic were.
Greenwood and Rashfords are both homegrowms, I’m hoping Greenwood will be world class in the future but I can’t see Rashford being that.

Rooney was fantastic but he stayed to long just because of his reputation.
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So what you are saying is that making broad judgements based on someone’s nationality is pure bollocks?
 
Tony247 said:
I am suspecting he did that on instruction. Last season he wasn't drifting.
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He started drifting inside before the lockdown. I remember asking myself what's he doing in there and leaving his marker free. I'm sure he wasn't instructed to do this.
 
Asger said:
My opinion is that British players are overrated/overspent, not just talking about United. Just in general.
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It’s not British players, it’s players who come from PL clubs because clubs have the money and they don’t have to sell players.

It’s also been stated that we give British players too much game time. That’s pretty ridiculous. We are a club that gives game time to young players, that’s part of our DNA.
 
I would play Brandon at right back for the next few games. While AWB gets some much needed coaching on man marking, positional defending, defending your area, sensing the danger, keeping up with the play and learning from mistakes. He was all over the place yesterday. He used to hug the touchline, but now he is too close to Lindelof. Completely ineffective. After their 2nd or 3rd free shot a goal from the back post, I would have hooked him off. They subsequently scored with their 5th free attempt at goal, which everyone could see coming, apart from Ole.

Starting 11 should be this

-----------------De Gea
Williams Bailly Maguire Shaw
-----------------Matic
-------Bruno Van De Beek
Greenwood Martial Rashford
 
Wheato said:
I would play Brandon at right back for the next few games. While AWB gets some much needed coaching on man marking, positional defending, defending your area, sensing the danger, keeping up with the play and learning from mistakes. He was all over the place yesterday. He used to hug the touchline, but now he is too close to Lindelof. Completely ineffective. After their 2nd or 3rd free shot a goal from the back post, I would have hooked him off. They subsequently scored with their 5th free attempt at goal, which everyone could see coming, apart from Ole.

Starting 11 should be this

-----------------De Gea
Williams Bailly Maguire Shaw
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-------Bruno Van De Beek
Greenwood Martial Rashford
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99% of fans know that we need to drop the players that are not performing to standard, but the coaches and manager seem to ignore this. Bench them for a few weeks and they will come back stronger. Some need a good kick up the backside, and it's time the manager acted on this.
 
Right back was a gaping wound against Brighton. Bringing on the defensive subs didn't work and all those mid-range efforts cracking the posts or going high and wide turned into a close range tap in.
 
redshaw said:
Right back was a gaping wound against Brighton. Bringing on the defensive subs didn't work and all those mid-range efforts cracking the posts or going high and wide turned into a close range tap in.
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Shaw gets caught upfield.
AWB drifts inside and leaves wide man free.
Lindelof and Maguire are too slow.
We all see this, but coaches and manager won't act.
 
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