United under LvG: verdict so far!

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Nothing wrong with the starting line up tbh given what happened to us pre-game with the injuries. Having four people out from last week and still dominating at their ground was impressive. Honestly, they had two chances (one scored) whilst we had a few more than them and should have scored one of them.

The longer the first half went without scoring, I think we could all guess what would happen.

Its nice to see how annoyed he is as it seems like hes taking it personally that loss. A game which we really shouldnt have lost but thats football.
 
For anyone who missed this:

He didn't like the MOTD interviewer did he?
There were another couple of snappy moments after this as well! I think it's fantastic, but I think he's fantastic full stop though!
 
For anyone who missed this:

He didn't like the MOTD interviewer did he?
There were another couple of snappy moments after this as well! I think it's fantastic, but I think he's fantastic full stop though!

He's such a sore loser. His comments are actually quite fair and balanced, but his attitude is very agressive, like everybody is out to get him and he needs to bite their heads off first.
 
Not sure why he's so angry here. United fans were'nt this angry after the game. We were never going to win the title.
The penalty decision was 50/50, and yeah it was a foul on Falcao leading up to the goal. But we just didn't create enough chances to win the game, in spite dominating posession.
I'm wondering if it's Mourinho again ha ha!
 
Not sure why he's so angry here. United fans were'nt this angry after the game. We were never going to win the title.
The penalty decision was 50/50, and yeah it was a foul on Falcao leading up to the goal. But we just didn't create enough chances to win the game, in spite dominating posession.
I'm wondering if it's Mourinho again ha ha!
Chelsea fan?

He's angry because he likes to win. We're happy because our performance was good and we didn't expect a win anyway but top mangers always want to win.
 
Not sure why he's so angry here. United fans were'nt this angry after the game. We were never going to win the title.
The penalty decision was 50/50, and yeah it was a foul on Falcao leading up to the goal. But we just didn't create enough chances to win the game, in spite dominating posession.
I'm wondering if it's Mourinho again ha ha!
Because hes a winner and is probably frustrated by the team a little for not being that clinical, which he would never openly admit in public.
 
Chelsea fan?

He's angry because he likes to win. We're happy because our performance was good and we didn't expect a win anyway but top mangers always want to win.

Chelsea fan with a vidic user name?

United have lost several games this year, and he's been quite realistic about explaining why, but he's clearly very wound up here and on the sky interview.
 
Chelsea fan with a vidic user name?

United have lost several games this year, and he's been quite realistic about explaining why, but he's clearly very wound up here, and on the sky interview.
You sounded very happy there with that sentence.
 
Not sure why he's so angry here. United fans were'nt this angry after the game. We were never going to win the title.
The penalty decision was 50/50, and yeah it was a foul on Falcao leading up to the goal. But we just didn't create enough chances to win the game, in spite dominating posession.
I'm wondering if it's Mourinho again ha ha!

I think he's angry because he knows with just Carrick out our set up has to change so much it almost kills our forward movement and threat. He called himself stupid re subs after the city game because he didn't keep one back for emergencies hence Carrick went off and left us with 10 men so probably blames himself a but for this halt in winning. He knows the performance was great, he knows they were there for the taking, it was just 1 key missing player that swung it. If Carrick was fit, Roo would have been up front and we'd have got something out of the game.

Frustration more than anger I think.

I like his passion.
 
Because hes a winner and is probably frustrated by the team a little for not being that clinical, which he would never openly admit in public.

He's said in both interviews that it was the best performance of the season, and that he's very happy with the it, and seeing that the result hsn't affected our league position at all, I'm just a little surprised he's so narled compared to days when we really were awful.
 
You sounded very happy there with that sentence.

No I just think that Mourinho got to him a bit. We need that spice in the premier league, like back when SAF and Wenger would go at it, then SAF and Mourinho, and Benitez.
It's good to see Van Gaal frustrated at losing, but it looks more than that to me. Can't wait for next season. And love or hate Mourinho for his football philosophy, he's great entertainment in his interviews.
 
I've been frustrated as hell with Van Gaal at numerous times this season, but was absolutely delighted yesterday. Obviously, the result is annoying, but the way we played tells me that he's instituted a style across the squad that'll stand us in good stead moving forward.

We were basically a Carrick and a Rooney in his correct position away from easily getting a point, at least.
 
He's said in both interviews that it was the best performance of the season, and that he's very happy with the it, and seeing that the result hsn't affected our league position at all, I'm just a little surprised he's so narled compared to days when we really were awful.
Because as a top team it's the matches against other top teams that matter most. And in a way, it's come together now for us, we're a proper team now, so he now wants and expects wins whereas earlier he probably felt we were far from getting the system right anyway.
 
He's said in both interviews that it was the best performance of the season, and that he's very happy with the it, and seeing that the result hsn't affected our league position at all, I'm just a little surprised he's so narled compared to days when we really were awful.
You're right, a manager would lie to the public and have different ideas behind closed doors.

LvG has shown time and time again to air his thoughts to the media, why would this be different? PS I'm being sarcastic
 
No I just think that Mourinho got to him a bit. We need that spice in the premier league, like back when SAF and Wenger would go at it, then SAF and Mourinho, and Benitez.
It's good to see Van Gaal frustrated at losing, but it looks more than that to me. Can't wait for next season. And love or hate Mourinho for his football philosophy, he's great entertainment in his interviews.
I think it's that his team lost to one of the top teams. And that he felt we deserved a win against them. And that their goal was the result of poor decision.

I don't think there's much spice in this particular relationship sadly. They both seem to like each other and are friends. Lvg vs Rodgers should be more fun I reckon given the history of the two clubs.
 
Moyes does interviews after defeats and is passionless and LVG does them and is angry.

People complain about both. :wenger:
 
He's such a sore loser. His comments are actually quite fair and balanced, but his attitude is very agressive, like everybody is out to get him and he needs to bite their heads off first.

For large parts of the season, everybody (some United fans included) have been out to get him.
 
I must be the only one who finds how snappy he was there quite funny. I love it.

Anyway I watched the full press conference after the game and he wasn't actually angry. After all he called it our best performance of the season.

He was annoyed that the interviewers kept asking if he was frustrated. The first journo in the press conference asked if he was positive after that performance and he said something along the lines of: "well done... you're the first to ask a sensible question, everyone keeps asking if I was frustrated but I was proud of my team"

Back to that video, it's the "that's good... that you're interested" bit I find hilarious.
 
He's been putting up with a lot of nonsense all season, nothing wrong with giving a bit back every now and then. Am very content with him.
 
Didn't realise he thought that, that was our best performance of the season. Don't really agree with that, but hey ho.
 
For large parts of the season, everybody (some United fans included) have been out to get him.
Quite true. Like the witch hunt that the journalists went on with the "you said we should judge you after three months... Well it's been three months and it's shit"

I found that whole episode a complete and utter fecking joke.
 
I'd hate to be interviewing Van Gaal. Don't see how that was the best performance in the season but then again we had a severely weakened side.

Not sure why he was so rude to the MOTD interviewer. I'd probably shit my pants if I received the responses he got.
 
For large parts of the season, everybody (some United fans included) have been out to get him.
True, but this is not the smartest way to defend himself. Don't get me wrong, I'm on his side and this has always been part of him and he won't change anymore. But it's just what it is, he's grumpy and agressive just because he has lost in this way and that results in awkward interviews. We'll have to accept that and hope he will not lose often, it's not gonna get prettier.
 
He's such a sore loser. His comments are actually quite fair and balanced, but his attitude is very agressive, like everybody is out to get him and he needs to bite their heads off first.
Bit of an exaggeration, he has been very graceful in defeat so far. This one was probably personal, but it is not like he is having a go at anyone for our loss.
 
I'd hate to be interviewing Van Gaal. Don't see how that was the best performance in the season but then again we had a severely weakened side.

Not sure why he was so rude to the MOTD interviewer. I'd probably shit my pants if I received the responses he got.
It was our best performance because we played as a team for 90 minutes and were very composed. Even the recent wins which were good, had periods where we stepped off the gas or the opposition had a period of control. Chelsea at no time had control of this game in an attacking sense.
 
I really liked that post match interview. He was annoyed, he really cares and for the most part he was right. It wasn't the best performance of the season as he claims, but it certainly wasn't bad. Especially considering the injury circumstances.
 
I think his anger is probably triggered by the fact that the journalist tried to impose judgement on LVG, which he normally does not like, as the media in Holland, Spain and Germany have probably found out, which was made worse by his previous experiences in which the media were trying to set him up. A more objective question like "how do you feel about your team's performance today" would probably not lead to such outrage and awkwardness, think that's just how he rolls.
 
Bit of an exaggeration, he has been very graceful in defeat so far. This one was probably personal, but it is not like he is having a go at anyone for our loss.
The reason he doesn't manage to be graceful is that it's just defeat. No process, no important lessons to be learned, not a part of the developmemt towards a winning team. No, he lost the match and he lost the title, definitively. Than he becomes like a hippo who has just given birth, an easily agitated and extremely agressive heavyweight who destroys everything in its path.

In this mmood, anything will make him feel attacked, his Dutch interpretation of the word 'frustrated' this time. Off course you can say that the interviewer should have asked how he felt, and not suggest how he should feel, but still his reaction was unneccessary agressive. It's part of the man, and in his own 'total human beeing principle'. I can accept that, but it isn't a pretty part. The flip side is that he's quite graceful in victory, and that will be the more frequent mood.
 
The reason he doesn't manage to be graceful is that it's just defeat. No process, no important lessons to be learned, not a part of the developmemt towards a winning team. No, he lost the match and he lost the title, definitively. Than he becomes like a hippo who has just given birth, an easily agitated and extremely agressive heavyweight who destroys everything in its path.
Oh come on, he was in a bad mood he didnt destroy the studio or sthing....

Sore looser would say sthing like - we lost due to the referee or would find excuses.
 
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He's such a sore loser. His comments are actually quite fair and balanced, but his attitude is very agressive, like everybody is out to get him and he needs to bite their heads off first.

Neither of those are bad traits for a football manager, Ferguson was a bad loser and aggressive with the media.

Stark contrast from last year when we had a dreary cnut smiling his way through post match interviews after defeats.
 
Who cares if he's a bad loser? I rather see that he's upset and pissed than Moyes who always thought everything is great
 
Just a little something I had to get off my chest.

LvG has said from the start that his favorite formation is 4-3-3 because it suits his philosophy the best.
LvG has said that he was forced to play 3-5-2 because not only is the team unable to play his philosophy yet, but also because we were playing with only 1 fit proper defender for months at a time. So he needed the extra defender to reduce risk of conceding goals.
LvG has also said that playing with 2 strikers and 1 number 10 allowed him to try and experiment to fit in our best players in their best positions (Falcao, RvP and Rooney). He has since abandoned that idea.
LvG has said that he sees Rooney as a striker but was forced to play Rooney in midfield because he needs someone who has the discipline to play according to his philosophy, which in hindsight, was presumably a message to Herrera.
Herrera himself has admitted in recent interviews that he was kept out because he kept looking for the ball instead of staying in position. He understands the philosophy now and is therefore playing more often now.
With herrera back, Rooney has been restored as a striker.

LvG has his own reasons for doing what he does and they were reasonable at that point in time. He doesn't need some internet warrior to tell him what to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everything most internet warriors are moaning about are wrong anyway.

We are 3rd in the league. We have the third best attack and second best defence in the league. How people keep saying LvG f-ed up the defence with 3 defenders or f-ed up our attack with the wrong formation is ridiculous. We are where we are because of him. Not in spite of him. He took some time to adapt, but everything he did, was for a good reason and he even took the trouble to explain himself numerous times.

The first thing he fixed was the defence. By November, we went back to a 3 man defence and were no longer shipping goals. Next was improving our possession and control of matches. By January, we kept possession even when teams pressed us and had total control over most games, barring the odd individual errors. The last piece was penetration and scoring goals. Now that most players are back and the team can play his philosophy comfortably, he was able to switch back to a back 4. After Herrera came back, eventually he was able to use his favorite 4-3-3 (albeit a modified version, as when we lose the ball, it's more of a 4-1-4-1) to start fixing our attack. And now the goals are pouring in.

Everything he has done, can be seen with a purpose. He did not luck it on most things we have achieved this season. As the saying goes, form is temporary. Class is permanent.

Only just seen this, but excellent post mate.

I think the World Cup didn't help either. Not just players returning to training late but our manager got to the last stages and we missed out on weeks, even a month's worth of LvG trying to get his style across to the squad. Meanwhile Mourinho had a year's head start and a whole summer to get his side ready.

I'm expecting us to be strong from the off this time around with a proper pre-season under our belts.
 
Regarding LVG taking issue with questions that are loaded with a predetermined opinion which he must either agree with or dispute, I don't blame him at all.

It's a dirty trick journalists use all the time to twist a narrative out of a manager or player.


"Manager X you must be incredibly angry with the referee for ruling that 90th minute goal as offside."

"Well it's frustrating when decisions like that are made but what can you do?"

Headline: "Manager X angry and frustrated at referee's decision to rule goal offside".


Yet that's not what he said...
 
Don't take issue with how he handles interviews. At the same time I understand journalists and their questions, they have to do something to try and get more out of people than the usual politically correct media trained answers. But don't really need to with Van Gaal, as he's straight forward anyway.
 
He's a stubborn man and he absolutely hates having to repeat himself.

I think he's great, I've a smile on my face most times I'm listening to him.
 
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