You may be delided. The Bayern president confirmed our relentless bids.
United are "Genuinely interested" in signing Neymar
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You may be delided. The Bayern president confirmed our relentless bids.
They did? I don't remember that.
And how is signing a young, relatively-unproven player (eager to make a clear step up, and play under his recent national coach) comparable to signing Neymar, who probably feels about as enthusiastic about joining United as Di Maria did?
There's actually very little proof that "we really get them if we want them".
I guess the key to signing him would be really really hammering home the huge commercial benefits for him, and hoping Barcelona want to sell, for whatever reason. But there's little evidence that the club gets top drawer players who are still wanted by their current club.
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We'd have to pursuade Wayne to give up no.10...
But yeah the merchandising department would be
We'd have to pursuade Wayne to give up no.10...
But yeah the merchandising department would be
I'm sure Wayne would be sent packing
Did someone mention Rachel Riley?
I'm sure we are genuinely interested. It's not gonna happen though. He'd have to really want out, and I don't get that from him at all.
Other than us, only Liverpool and PSG showed serious interest if I'm not mistaken.
False alarm he meant Lisa.Did someone mention Rachel Riley?
If we REALLY wanted him we could just double his wages, Barca won't be able to come close to us in terms of wages.
I think that it's too late for Neymar, Barcelona have no reason to sell and he has no reason to leave. We should buy the next Neymar.
What we need is a new thread explaining this to us.I think that it's too late for Neymar, Barcelona have no reason to sell and he has no reason to leave. We should buy the next Neymar.
Do the same with your "double his wage" theory and I will follow your advice.
Another wild goose chase.
You have no idea how enthusiastic Neymar would be to join us Tbf
I'll throw martial into the mix, seemed every top club in Europe made a move for him last summer
Yeah, feck spending £125 million on Neymar, just buy 5 more Fellaini's instead, and United shouldn't worry about their wage structure either, just keep paying Rooney £300k a week. That's about as "Fair and Balanced" as Fox News!
This isn't exactly new news though, Neymar's Dad came out a while ago and said United had contacted him and his and Barca in the Summer.
This isn't exactly new news though, Neymar's Dad came out a while ago and said United had contacted him and his and Barca in the Summer.
United should be showing interest in these players. Even if they don't expect they will sign them it puts a little extra pressure on the teams they are trying to poach from and maybe forces them to overpay, etc. The problem comes if they are given false hope and fail to sign other players waiting for the big score.
I'm not sure we can better the 'we need to buy the next messi' thread, but if we team up and create the 'we need to buy the next Neymar and double his wages' thread we might just do it!
Nothing wrong with Goose at Christmas.
Only conceivable scenario I could see this happening is if Barcelona achieve the treble again & the media mogul sees the move as an avenue to expand his brand. Of course he appears genuinely fulfilled playing with Suarez & Leo and has also moved into their neighborhood
I have a hard time imagining it to happen but these things can happen in football. Bale would hardly be a legitimate consolation prize by comparison
Good. The club should try to sign the best players in the world because at the very least that signals ambition in the market. But I just hope we cover all of our bases, do the sensible thing, and activate Griezmann's buyout clause before this season is out. Let him go to the EUROs, give him an extended break, and then get him firing for the 2016/ 2017 League season. If you want to sound out the possibility of signing Neymar after that, and get draw into a protracted transfer saga, then there's no problem because you've already signed one world class attacker as the bare minimum. Just don't want to be drawn into a situation where we pin our hopes to one guy and keep chasing an obscure fantasy, while players like Griezmann join other clubs after boosting their profile further through the EUROs - where the hosts France will be a strong contender.
It's just that signing Neymar is next to impossible as things stand. If United were regularly strong in Europe, and winning league titles, while Barcelona were in the dumps, then the possibility would be strong. But he has absolutely no reason to leave right now. If he stays he will go down in the history books with Messi and Suárez, maybe overtake someone who's a Top 3 all-time player in the near future, and follow in the footsteps of Romário, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho to win the FIFA World Player of the Year/ Ballon D'Or at Barcelona. The league is less demanding physically for a player like Neymar, and Barcelona are almost guaranteed to win titles as long as they retain that forward core. That's aside from the lure of the city itself for Latin American players - the culture, the warm weather, the beaches, and all of that stuff which will naturally appeal to a Brazilian from São Paulo.
It's just that signing Neymar is next to impossible as things stand. If United were regularly strong in Europe, and winning league titles, while Barcelona were in the dumps, then the possibility would be strong. But he has absolutely no reason to leave right now. If he stays he will go down in the history books with Messi and Suárez, maybe overtake someone who's a Top 3 all-time player in the near future, and follow in the footsteps of Romário, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho to win the FIFA World Player of the Year/ Ballon D'Or at Barcelona. The league is less demanding physically for a player like Neymar, and Barcelona are almost guaranteed to win titles as long as they retain that forward core. That's aside from the lure of the city itself for Latin American players - the culture, the warm weather, the beaches, and all of that stuff which will naturally appeal to a Brazilian from São Paulo.
I'd have Moyes or Giggs as manager if it meant us having Neymar. Needless to say, I like him a lot.
Nailed on.
I've already ordered my Neymar shirt.
I've already ordered my Neymar shirt.
€190m would sure help lay the foundations, though.
He cost them an arm and a leg, God knows how much he'd cost us now that he is more proven and not even entered his prime.
Muppet show, 0%. He's just negotiating a better contract.
What's his release clause, €190m? For that we could buy around three brilliant players instead of just one who happens to play for Barcelona. There are the likes of Reus, Griezmann; there are the 'Martials' of the footballing world. We should go for those instead. Spending that much on one single player is a crazy risk. We would basically go all in, risking everything on him.
Knowing us he'd spend half his time injured. Much better to spend the money on three very good players.
It is not like he has no interest for us to look like idiots. We probably asked about him, but the multiple bids thing is laughable. Good to see that he is getting nervous, he knows what we are capable of.
Our net profit for the 2016 fiscal year is forecast at c. €240m ... I'd have no problem whatsoever with the club committing the majority of that to this transfer/wages (split 50/50 between wages and a 5 year contract).
Add into that Barcelona's unbelievably high wage bill and them having to renegotiate Messi's new deal as well and you could see why the deal might be feasible. Not to mention that Barcelona have exhausted the majority of their Commercial, TV & Match Day revenue options as it stands.
Add into that Barcelona's unbelievably high wage bill and them having to renegotiate Messi's new deal as well and you could see why the deal might be feasible. Not to mention that Barcelona have exhausted the majority of their Commercial, TV & Match Day revenue options as it stands.
Did someone mention Rachel Riley?
And the anagram clue is ..... Swap one for a c and give her a like.......UNSLUICING cue music and clock!
We have a very high revenue and with the new TV deal, it will go even higher. I can see us affording both Neymar and Griezmann next season. We don't need to improve much on other areas, a CB and probably an another CM is all we need.
Neymar and Griezmann would cost around 250m euro, which is around the same as our net profit. Add a new CB and a midfielder which can be probably financed from the sales of the likes of Fellaini and Mata (probably one of Jones/Rojo). It can be easily done financially.
Would Barca sell? Unlikely, but not impossible. They wage bill is very high and not sure if they can improve both the wages of Messi and Neymar. It also is depended on Neymar, does he want to continue being the second man.
Regardless of what happens, I agree with invictus that we should pay Griezmann's release clause and then try Neymar. If we get him great. If not, then we already have one of the best attacking players in the world.
I dont think we "get them if we really want them".....see Thomas Muller. We used to be able to with Premier League players.
However, nor do I think that this is a non starter.
We can offer Barca a fee that they would have to listen to. We can also offer Neymar alot. Not just financially either. We could make him the richest player in the world but we could also offer him adulation. He would be our superstar, our main man at a time when he could take us out of our current “transitional” phase and he could complete the “process”. Few clubs honour their heroes in the way we do at United.
Barca and Real both live in the now with little regard for the future. They swap managers every couple of years along with the Chairman or what ever it is they call them.
Long term Neymar is going to be the biggest name in football. However, Messi has a good few years left yet and whilst he is on the seen he is very much the jewel in the crown for Barca. As good as he is they could live with Suarez and Messi and massively improve elsewhere where the ageing of players is more pressing
However, nor do I think that this is a non starter.
We can offer Barca a fee that they would have to listen to. We can also offer Neymar alot. Not just financially either. We could make him the richest player in the world but we could also offer him adulation. He would be our superstar, our main man at a time when he could take us out of our current “transitional” phase and he could complete the “process”. Few clubs honour their heroes in the way we do at United.
Barca and Real both live in the now with little regard for the future. They swap managers every couple of years along with the Chairman or what ever it is they call them.
Long term Neymar is going to be the biggest name in football. However, Messi has a good few years left yet and whilst he is on the seen he is very much the jewel in the crown for Barca. As good as he is they could live with Suarez and Messi and massively improve elsewhere where the ageing of players is more pressing
I am sure we are genuinely interested in Neymar - I think any club would be
We may even be able to afford his wages and transfer fee - probably something like £350 million over 5 years
I'm still not sure I see Neymar (and his rather attractive wife) wanting to leave Barcelona and come to Manchester though
We may even be able to afford his wages and transfer fee - probably something like £350 million over 5 years
I'm still not sure I see Neymar (and his rather attractive wife) wanting to leave Barcelona and come to Manchester though
Wait until he discovers cake and cigars, like most Brazillians do. He'll be playing in the Brazillian league for 5000 quid and all the pussy he can handle by the time he's 30.
I'm not usually a fan of deals where we have to bend over backwards financially just to convince the player to come. We should express interest and only pursue if the player gives signs that he genuinely wants a new challenge. Not the "we'll throw so much money at him he'll have to choice" approach. There's no logical reason why Neymar would want to join us apart from money.
The only time a player has joined us in what could be considered a step down in his career was Di Maria and we all know how that turned out.
The only time a player has joined us in what could be considered a step down in his career was Di Maria and we all know how that turned out.
What people sont understand is barcelona need to sell more than anyother top club right now. Their wages are the biggest problem but not the only one. Here are some problems -
- wage bill as reported everywhere is 75 % of total revenue.
- They want to renovate their stadium and that will cost them alot. They cannot sell and lease back the stadium like madrid
- Along with the stadium, they have to undertake modernisation of their beloved la masia which was promised by the current president. Build new training grounds etc
- Contract renewal of both messi and neymar are due. Suarez will be due next year and all of them will ask for more money than they currently are on. Having a 500 k/week player + a 400 k/week player in neymar is not feasible
- Their squad needs fresh investment. yes they have bought arda but they need a central midfielder may be a defender also.
Not much in recent years. Nervous is probably the wrong expression. I think the story is believable, it was leaked more to appeal to the own fans though. Right now, United is no competition.
We are more worried about the midtable clubs getting more TV money because it will inflate the prices of the likes of Costa, Benatia etc even more.
I am fully aware of Barcelona problems but they will find a way. They just will. A Barcelona board that sanctions the sale of Neymar will face an immediate no confidence vote and be forced to resign.
You'd get to 'lay' more than the foundations for €190m.
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