Us or City? I rather United go for Rose too. I can’t say I would be comfortable with his lack of experience.
United’s next manager
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Us or City? I rather United go for Rose too. I can’t say I would be comfortable with his lack of experience.
Sorry, us. Rose done well in Austria. EL and now in Bundesliga. I believe he's the real deal.
Yeah me too... I prefer him over Nagelsmann(That’s who I meant lacked experience)
You brought up Bayern’s next manager not me. I’m always up for a good City discussion.
Evidence? I Never said Bayern once.
Upon rethinking it, this whole “Poch hasn’t won trophies in England so thats a black mark” argument is bollocks. In that case then we should hire Michael Laudrup or Alex McLeish because they won the League Cup in the past decade.
He’s said it quiet a few times actually . You think he’s running to put his name on a contract to be saddled with that mess when he has a chance to win the BL the next couple of years, CL football for the foreseeable future and ultimately a chance to land his dream job?
If the board was clear that they want to get Poch, they should have done it before the winter break when we had better chance of achieving Top 4.
We need to pay Spurs some money but that amount is very little than what we could get in CL if we qualify. And he would have had nearly half a season to work on the squad and prepare for next season.
We need to pay Spurs some money but that amount is very little than what we could get in CL if we qualify. And he would have had nearly half a season to work on the squad and prepare for next season.
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What’s that got to do with what I said. Idgaf what he wants to do. I gave my personal opinion that had nothing to do with Bayern.
“Pep replacement, look forward to it” is a statement of opinion? Alright...
Well is he confirmed as Pep’s Replacement? Also since when has Pep been Bayern Munich’s current manager?!
Use your common sense.
Im tempted - I mean he could probably still walk his way into the team at the moment as our most creative player
Carrick, Southgate, Luis Enrique
Carrick has been an unmitigated disaster since he joined the first team coaching setup. Same for McKenna.
He has known nothing but failure since he joined.
I have an idea; let's give him the manager's job!
Hopefully, this isn't crossing Woodward's mind. Even he wouldn't be so stupid.
Well, Woodward is our DoF, so technically, it is our DoF who will be appointing our next manager.
I believe that if we signed both Messi and Ronaldo, Ole would find a way to screw that up.
Probably playing Messi as a CDM and Ronaldo as a CM.
Wasn't Bruno being played in the CDM role in our last match? When I saw that, I could not believe how tactically inept Ole is.
Yeah, this club needs to enter the modern era. A top manager, a top DOF and a new, fresh coaching team with fresh, modern ideas. No more looking to the past and filling the coaching staff with Middle-of-the-road coaches that worked with Fergie years ago. We need our coaching staff, and players, to start being there on merit not on length of service or connection to the past.
Is too hasty to suggest Chris wilder? he gives off the vibes that Rodgers did when he came up to the premier league with swansea that he is more than just a flash in the pan manager having a one off good premier league debut season and actually has the potential manager for a top 4 side.
It's not like wilder plays horrible alladyce/dyche type football, its actually progressive good football to watch with the fluidity to his team's formation that produces overlapping centre backs when in possession.
If wilder was a foreign manager there would probably be more hype about him getting the chance to manage a big club like nuno santo got last season despite him playing a more pragmatic style of football with a far better team on paper.
It's not like wilder plays horrible alladyce/dyche type football, its actually progressive good football to watch with the fluidity to his team's formation that produces overlapping centre backs when in possession.
If wilder was a foreign manager there would probably be more hype about him getting the chance to manage a big club like nuno santo got last season despite him playing a more pragmatic style of football with a far better team on paper.
Still probably too soon for him for an elite CL level club. But in am curious as to where the likes of Wilder, Santo, Rodgers etc go to next.
The formula for the CL level PL sides recently has been to hire established managers with CL experience.
It's probably due to him being in Ligue 1 but it's surprising that no one talks about Villas Boas, he is doing a remarkable job at Marseille with a team that isn't particularly strong. He has managed to build what seems to be genuine team spirit and a lot of resiliency. Maybe he could do a Rodgers and make a successful comeback in the Premier League, he is also still pretty young for a manager at 42 years old.
Don't know if its PR bullsh!t, but Pep's come out and said "Even if we're put in league 2, i'll stay"
Does Marseille play good progressive football with attacking intent, because l have vague memory of Villas Boas Tottenham team it wasn't a great watch unfortunately they were heavily reliant on individual brilliance of Bale.
I don't watch Marseille every weeks but they have looked good, well organized defensively and good movements offensively. It's a limited team talent wise but they play with nice balance. I wouldn't say that it's a lot different to what you will see from Gladbach or Leipzig.
Yeah Bruno took over Pereira's position as the DM on 72' nowhere near the box, with Mata & Greenwood ahead. Chasing the win & we put him even deeper? Comical. Even before that he was more involved in the initial building up phase. James & Mata were invisible. Martial was literally on his own surrounded by Wolves 3 CBs.
Let's not forget he had Pogba playing as a DM when he was fit with Lingard/whoever as 10 ruining every attack too. Why would anyone expect different with Bruno? The man is completely clueless.
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I think we've gotten all our managers post Fergie wrong.
This analogy may be poor but I see Moyes and Ole as the Pereiras of managers - not good enough/out of their depth and are meant for low tier teams. While Van Gaal and Mourinho are like the Sanchez of Managers - once one of the best but were past it when we got them.
So we should be looking at the Haaland of managers - the top talents and hot prospect hungry for success. Nagelsmann Marco Rose etc fall into this. Or we could look at the De Bruyne of managers - currently the best in the world. Guardiola, Klopp and maybe Conte fall into this category. Or the Firminos of managers - good but not the best currently eg Tuchel, Pochettino, Rodgers etc.
Any of these type of managers would be an improvement on the coaching we've seen post Fergie
This analogy may be poor but I see Moyes and Ole as the Pereiras of managers - not good enough/out of their depth and are meant for low tier teams. While Van Gaal and Mourinho are like the Sanchez of Managers - once one of the best but were past it when we got them.
So we should be looking at the Haaland of managers - the top talents and hot prospect hungry for success. Nagelsmann Marco Rose etc fall into this. Or we could look at the De Bruyne of managers - currently the best in the world. Guardiola, Klopp and maybe Conte fall into this category. Or the Firminos of managers - good but not the best currently eg Tuchel, Pochettino, Rodgers etc.
Any of these type of managers would be an improvement on the coaching we've seen post Fergie
De Bruyne’s and Firmino’s. I think we are too big for a Haaland manager unfortunately.
It's a complete bullshit argument. Poch is a loser but Ole is in elite class of managers because he's won the norwegian league.
I think our biggest problem is that we fail to acknowledge that the rot started long before Sir Alex left. At one point the guy was papering the cracks. At board level, United still operate like a team stuck in the 80s. The manager basically does everything. We lack a CEO who understand football, a DOF, a sporting director and a head of recruitment ie specialised people in specialised jobs who takes away from the manager the tasks he lacks experience in. Managers won't ask for that tasks to be removed from their hands as at United they are like children being given carte blanche in a sweet shop. They can sign whoever they want with little to no accountability. We must therefore do it ourselves.
There's going to be a managerial reshuffle in the Pl soon with Pep and Poch leaving their clubs. We missed out on the last one when Klopp and Pep changed clubs and joined our rivals. There's no time to wait and confirm suspicions that Ole is a failure. Take the hint and go for one of Poch, Nagel-watzisname. Guaranteed we can't end up worse off with any of them. Also certain is their ceiling potential if things go right is far higher
A lot of noise about Poch to Madrid in the papers today, I get the distinct impression Zidane and Perez don't get on.
Which club is Poch at?
It feels inevitable that Pochettino will manage Real Madrid at some point.
I think it’s inevitable he’ll be United’s manager. He’s already stated he wants to stay in England.
I wouldn't say he's been a failure. Ole has laid the best foundations yet. He's been the only that's had the balls to give youngsters a real chance and not rely on the same shite/wait til they're injured to do so. I suspect that was part of his plan laid out when hired. I do doubt he's the way forward after the summer plans though.
He's said he wants to get back into management soon and all reports have suggested the board are intent on continuing with Ole. Don't think it'll happen myself. Don't see him waiting around for Ole to inevitably fail.
Yeah I’m just hoping the boards stance is generic as there never going to say we are looking at our options. Plus the actually fanbase would probably have a hissy fit.
What youngsters? Gave them a chance compared to which manager?
Greenwood, Chong, Williams. All 3 of the others? Jose brought McT through so fair play there, and LVG stumbled into giving Rashford a go, but Ole has clearly looked to include these as part of his plans.
Yeah sure....
Chong doesn’t play. If LVG stumbled on Rashford then what was Williams? Ole’s master plan?
so Greenwood then.. the generational talent. Good work Ole.