Meanwhile your super, soaraway, stinking cesspit, enemy-of-the-people Sun is offering £100 to 'Conservative voters who have a “good news” story to tell about why they are backing the party.'
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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It's from here, chief:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arage-boasts-creating-harmonious-society.html
How can he say all that with a straight face after going on and on about 'foreigners with HIV' in pretty much every debate?
It'd be funny if it was actually funny.
Can't remember a more nasty attack. Murdoch must be proud. He was stamping his feet the other day saying that the papers were to soft on Miliband. Guess this is the response.
He's reportedly threatened firings to editorial staff if Labour get in. I'm quite pessimistic generally so have a nasty suspicion it'll work.
He is one foreigner we really should never have let in.
If it's any consolation (and I'm quite sure it isn't), for a person who @SteveJ described as 'more inclined to vote Tory', I find these ads/stories quite dispiriting. The level of personal attacks feels more akin to a murky US presidential campaign and something we were supposedly above. If this is the upshot of a world where we don't have the pendulum swings between Con-Lab and are in an age of coalitions it doesn't feel like progress.
Both sides sniping, offering last minute unfunded promises. I go back to my earlier point that if you can disengage @Nick 0208 Ldn, someone far more engaged than most, the system is not working.
People are seeing through it. As others have pointed out. the best rated comments on Littlejohn's odious DM rant were all berating the paper. Granted, we'll never know if they are Guardian tourists or genuine DM regulars, but people seem to be rightly turned off by the bile.
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Yep. It's a sad state of affairs when the best that the main parties can offer the public is: 'Well at least we're better than that lot'.
This is on Thursday? Who is going to win? Is there a 538 equivalent?
Sure, 538.
Is that one of Brendan's formations?
So then what is the likely coalition? I asked this a few weeks ago and some said SNP and Labour and some said they wouldn't form a coalition.
Math, Stevo. http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/uk-general-election-predictions/
Oh. 
Probably left leaning unless the tories do better than expected because there won't be enough right leaning MP's to pass any laws. The SNP will work with labour from outside the government so that laws can be passed. And they really hate the tories so I wouldn't be surprised if they occasionally vote just to piss them off. The lib dems are pretty much soulless at the moment so they'll join whoever'll take 'em. Likeliest result being a Labour + Lib Dem coalition working with the SNP as the tories cry about it for the next 5 years.
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The vote is on Thursday but really it's only to determine who gets to speak to the Lib Dems first and they'll be weeks of negotiations. Labour + Lib Dem is very unlikely to be enough to reach the 326 seats required (and I don't think Cons. + Lib Dem will be either) so as Silva said they'll probably have to rely on SNP support without them being part of the government.
The main thing is being able to pass the most mundane vote (queens speech) and the right wing won't be able to do that.
Tories will probably try to put a queen's speech through at the end of May, then cry foul if it gets voted down. They did well at creating the narrative last time that the global recession was Labour's fault. This time they'll be going for the McLabour coup d'etat angle.
Yeah but they won't be in government so who gives a shit, really. And Labour won't be busy trying to elect a new leader and will come up with their own narrative to peddle. It'll just be more squabbling that makes the nation hate the cnuts even more.
I'm surprised Clegg has managed to hold on as long as he has, thought he was certain to go after they nearly got wiped out in the European elections last May. Guardian saying that he'll have his saved in Sheffield Hallam by Tories voting tactically.
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/135760/david-cameron-worried-over-labours-wrong-direction-israel
Cameron can't be that desperate, surely...
Cameron can't be that desperate, surely...
"I don't think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he's carved them into stone means, you know, that he will absolutely, you know, not going to break them or anything like that"
Embarrassing words from Lucy Powell, who is vice-chairwoman of Labour’s election campaign, on Miliband's Ed stone.
Embarrassing words from Lucy Powell, who is vice-chairwoman of Labour’s election campaign, on Miliband's Ed stone.
Don't worry. He can't live forever. Miliband did say in his Brand interview that Murdoch 'doesn't have the power that he used to'. I wonder if this is him flexing his muscles in response.
See, I was an undecided voter until the Murdoch media increased their vile and despicable campaign to keep their Bullingdon lapdog in power.
Well done Rupert, you've only gone and convinced me to vote Labour
He was campaigning in my local constituency of Hendon, which is around 20-30% Jewish. Its a marginal seat that was decided by 106 votes last election, so its hardly surprising Cameron's using the Israel trump card. The Labour MP however is probably more pro-Israel than his Tory counterpart, so not sure how that's going to work
Listen to the interview in context. She's making the opposite point to the way her words have been spun, saying that politicians have to actually be trusted to deliver on promises they make, and gimmicks like this don't magically guarantee anything. That quote is in reply to a question asking why the stone suddenly should make people think a pledge is more truthful than if it was in a manifesto.
Pfft context shmontext
Yup. Forget the treachery of politicians, even. When you hear some total nugget going on, who obviously hasn't got a clue what they're talking about, and then realise that person's vote is going to cancel your vote out it's very easy to want to disengage.
Murdoch continues to demonstrate that it doesn't matter how much of a despised t**t you are as long as you have money you have influence.
Thankfully it wont work, Cameron is no longer acting the statesman and the levels he's slumped to recently wont sit well with moderates.
Next few week of the Tory party throwing hissy fits and trying to con the public should be interesting.
Thankfully it wont work, Cameron is no longer acting the statesman and the levels he's slumped to recently wont sit well with moderates.
Next few week of the Tory party throwing hissy fits and trying to con the public should be interesting.
Found it incredible that the BBC had this as part of their radio and TV news loops completely without the context. You expect the likes of the Sun and Mail to jump on the comment as quoted but the BBC should really be above that, particularly at election time, left-wing bias indeed!
Fairly worried it could work. Assuming the majority of the electorate have no knowledge of coalition politics outside of our own Tory-LD government, it's going to be easy to spin the legitimacy of a coalition between the 2nd and 4th largest parties, propped up by the votes of the 5th largest party (3rd by seats, thanks FPTP).
Not convinced that a second election would be in the Tories' interests though - unless they actually convince themselves the 'cult of Boris' (vom) is an election game-changer. Surely he wouldn't be?
They'd already established the narrative by the election, they just have a very effective faction of the print media. Ideally Labour will be within about 8 seats so it won't matter so much, but if the gap's over 20 it could gain some traction. One day to go...
Quiet before the storm in here today.
The DM has done a handy guide to tactical voting if you want to keep 'Red Ed' out. Er, seems to be a bit of a theme of Ukippers needing to vote Tory to achieve this...
Gus O'Donnell is doing the rounds currently pointing out that Cameron himself signed off on the Cabinet Manual that suggests that the largest party doesn't automatically form the government. Might be hard for Cameron to spin the illegitimacy of a second placed Labour party forming the government when he approved the rules that allow it. In such a scenario it's likely that Cameron would have to step down as party leader anyway I'd imagine.
Odds on prime minister post election...
Well that's just conclusive...