UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority

How did you vote in the 2015 General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 67 20.0%

  • Labour

    Votes: 152 45.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 15 4.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 23 6.9%

  • SNP

    Votes: 9 2.7%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 11 3.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Did not vote

    Votes: 43 12.8%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 1.2%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • Total voters
    335
  • Poll closed .
Pogue Mahone said:
This seems like fairly good summary of where the election is going...

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features...the-new-class-war-it-even-works-for-miliband/
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The rising force in western politics is the populism of the left — which is (to paraphrase Blair) about the politics of anger, not the politics of answers.
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That's the fear- angry policy made on the hoof, (not that half of the main parties' manifestos are not crammed with last minute sweeteners made on hoof, mind)
bishblaize said:
Out of interest is anyone planning to pull an all nighter on election night?
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No, I'll be facing the 7am shift on either the Thursday or the Friday that week, but I will probably get sucked in and watch more than I should if I want to be able to get in to work in a half-decent state the next day
 
The opposition leader's debate will start soon but I have a question, why is Clegg in there when he was part of the government for 5 years?

EDIT: Don't mind me!
 
Ed needs to look like he's talking to the questioner and not giving a speech.
 
Ed's having the inevitable problem of having the four others target him while he's trying to debate someone who isn't there.
 
Scrumpet said:
Ed's having the inevitable problem of having the four others target him while he's trying to debate someone who isn't there.
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Aye, the whole thing feels a bit bizarre tonight.
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of an impartial website or article that summarises each parties' policies?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I was going with the survival of the fittest analogy, where an animal happens to be better adapted to its environment so - over time - eliminates competing species. Whether they're aggressive or not is neither here nor there. They just need to be efficient at reproducing. Which does, to be fair, rule penguins out. The only animal on the planet stupid enough to try and rear kids dozens of miles away from the nearest food source.

But yeah, it's a silly analogy. Human society and culture is not natural. It's the very definition of "man made". The only question is whether or not it's possible to engineer a better society than the one we're living in now. I don't know the answer. I'd like to think so but the older I get, the more weary I get about the scale of the project. I just can't work up enough energy to care about the greater good any more.
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That would mean each individual human is in competition with each other for finite resources (the other precondition for natural selection is heritable characteristics which doesn't apply here and actually complicates the whole picture)
Anyway, resources are indeed finite but competition is not, not even in nature, the only way out. Symbionts, etc.

It's got to be possible. I live in a country where one man owns this thing while 3000 children die every day due to the effects of inadequate nutrition- it's a pretty shitty society, I can't believe we can't engineer a better one.
Oh, and the man who owns the billion dollar building - inherited the companies from his father, whose (main) political ally is now the country's president, and the son's (main) political ally from a rival party is the PM.

About me doing anything about it - no way can I make a difference. It's definitely not like the west - if I think about the state of our farmers (committing suicide by the thousands) or tribals (being shot at by police when they defend their land), and lower castes (funny that 60 years after abolishing untouchability many still work as manual scavengers) etc. - it just feels so inevitable that one day there will a revolution. And me, a rich privileged student studying evolution for shits and giggles, who won't benefit society in the short medium or long term, may well be one of the targets.


Also, about penguins - their strategy may not seem the smartest to us but they've been good enough to wipe out / outlast most of their competition -- must be doing something right :angel:
 
Anyway it's 3 am here and i just realised all of humanity is mega-fecked, we're going to boil ourselves to death and fight over whatever clean water is left because the rich nations will vote for 'pragmatic' politics and defend national interests which make no long-term survival sense and poorer nations but big polluters (BRICS) will say US/EU made the mess not us - so its a global suicide pact and we're all fecked. And for some reason local politics on caste and religious and class and identity lines fascinates me.
 
bishblaize said:
Article about the awful turnout in Manchester Central constituency.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-registration-manchester-westmorland-lonsdale
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I'm registered to vote for this constituency but I'll probably be voting by postal vote at my home address instead. I won't even be in Manchester come August anyway, so I see little point.

Didn't realise the turnout was so bad, but with the big student population I suppose that has some factor. They're probably either voting at home or just not bothered. At the University of Manchester, there has been a big push for students to at least register and then vote. But those who were disillusioned last time are probably feeling the same.
 
712 said:
Wasn't the survey written ages before the manifestos even came out though? Does make me suspicious a bit.
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They updated it at the start of the year I believe. But yeah, before the manifestos. They've only just been released this week, so I should hope that they're looking to update the site pretty quickly.
 
Decided I'm voting Greens. Was thinking of tactically voting Labour to stop DCamz and his worryingly shiny forehead getting in again, but then I'd just be part of a problem I dislike and Greens best match my views.
 
Alex99 said:
Decided I'm voting Greens. Was thinking of tactically voting Labour to stop DCamz and his worryingly shiny forehead getting in again, but then I'd just be part of a problem I dislike and Greens best match my views.
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In what way?
 
Jippy said:
In what way?
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In short, being a lefty feck. I'm going to bed soon so I can't really be arsed explaining it now. If I remember, I'll edit the post over the weekend and explain further.
 
I'm going to vote Labour because I hate David Cameron's face and think David Miliband will be great for political satire.
 
Alex99 said:
In short, being a lefty feck. I'm going to bed soon so I can't really be arsed explaining it now. If I remember, I'll edit the post over the weekend and explain further.
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Am interested. Nick's candid admission that he had become disaffected and drifted away from the Tories, but couldn't bear Labour either was interesting. For such a politically switched on, intelligent and articulate individual to become a floating and seemingly now apathetic voter is a sad reflection of this election.
 
...and my selection has lost direction.
 
I've been trying to change my mind and not vote conservative again, but I've read and watched as much as I can and I'm completed unsold by any of the others.

It's not that I think Cameron or his government are amazing, however I know my life in general has improved over the last 5 years. I've not been unemployed for a single day since leaving uni (infact 4th job commences in a gov't department in May).

I wanted the Green's to really impress, but their manifesto is so unrealistic. It's like a bunch of students and Jeremy Kyle guests got together to discuss their lives and how best to handle it, whilst forgetting the working people.

I have no faith in a Labour Gov't fronted by Miliband and Balls. I think there is a disaster in there. A stronger chancellor may have swayed me.

But what a lot of people are forgetting is local MP's have to be judged too. My local MP is a Tory and he's good at his job at local level. The Labour Councillor fobbed everyone on my street off twice when we wanted some guidance on requesting some potholes being filled and a review into our street lighting bearing in mind council tax here is the highest band possible. I reached out to my MP who managed to get the situation reviewed and the ball was rolling within 3 months
 
Pogue Mahone said:
If my theory works, that's a good thing. Property seems to be the investment of choice for an awful lot of rich people. If UK/Irish housing stock became a less desirable investment then property/rental prices would drop and everyone would benefit.

This is all just pub bullshit by the way (a phrase a friend of mine invented for trying to sound knowledgeable over a pint about something you know very little about)
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Just coming back to this idea:



Allowing the exchequer to get a bigger chunk of that cash certainly looks like a fairer way to raise money than taking money out of PAYE paychecks.
 
The Mitcher said:
I think I may end up spoiling it, I trust none of the parties.
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Unless you distrust them all equally then that's more reason to vote. The only reason not to vote is thinking they're all the same but that's certainly not the case at all. There's always parties who have no chance winning that let you demonstrate your left/right principles.

I don't get the logic behind a spoiled vote, no one gives a shit about the protest vote especially in the context of low voter turnout
 
Jippy said:
Am interested. Nick's candid admission that he had become disaffected and drifted away from the Tories, but couldn't bear Labour either was interesting. For such a politically switched on, intelligent and articulate individual to become a floating and seemingly now apathetic voter is a sad reflection of this election.
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More a reflection of the Tories' dismal campaign when a died-in-the-wool conservative (small c) is floating.
 
Jippy said:
Am interested. Nick's candid admission that he had become disaffected and drifted away from the Tories, but couldn't bear Labour either was interesting. For such a politically switched on, intelligent and articulate individual to become a floating and seemingly now apathetic voter is a sad reflection of this election.
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If tory voters aren't willing to give Conservatives another five years then that's quite a strong indication that they have been awful while in government. Its got nothing to do with the election.
 
LitterBug said:
If tory voters aren't willing to give Conservatives another five years then that's quite a strong indication that they have been awful while in government. Its got nothing to do with the election.
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While I'm sure you're in fact goading , it can certainly be both. Even my old man a Tory voter for 40 odd years has given up on them, they've not delivered during their tenure and now he's fed up of Cameron and Crosbys tactics. They needed a good solid campaign and they've used opposition tactics.

Don't think he'll vote tbh as he sees through UKIP and hates Labour.
 
Smores said:
Unless you distrust them all equally then that's more reason to vote. The only reason not to vote is thinking they're all the same but that's certainly not the case at all. There's always parties who have no chance winning that let you demonstrate your left/right principles.

I don't get the logic behind a spoiled vote, no one gives a shit about the protest vote especially in the context of low voter turnout
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I enjoy hearing the numbers of spoiled ballots, it always seems crazy high.
Shamwow said:
25/1 on a Labour majority, worth a squirt?
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Nah. Labour Minority is most likely (propped up by SNP votes), wouldn't say there's much chance of a majority unless the SNP inexplicably collapse.
 
Interesting graph

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bishblaize said:
If you don't work close to the NHS its hard to explain just how crazy things are these days.
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Its quite easy to see if you have any health problem. I have a sinusitis problem and it obviously gets really bad in the winter. I went to the GP who referred me to a specialist but by the time they came around to see me it was nearly summer so my sinuses were clean as a whistle. I have since thought about private healthcare and will probably have to go down that route soon enough as the only way you can get seen quickly is if you're in a "risk-group" or have a life-threatening problem and even then its quite hit and miss.
 
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