UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority

How did you vote in the 2015 General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 67 20.0%
  • Labour

    Votes: 152 45.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 15 4.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 6.9%
  • SNP

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Did not vote

    Votes: 43 12.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 9 2.7%

  • Total voters
    335
  • Poll closed .
Owning a house worth over £325k does not equate to rich. Some very loose definitions of the word on here.
And that is why you pay no tax on the first £325k of inheritance... and likely pay no tax on the first £650k (if your parents were married).

Those tax free thresholds seem reasonable to me.
 
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What about the geographic argument? You can buy a five bedroomed detached house in some parts of the country for £325k. That wouldn't get you close to a two bed flat in Brook Green. Maybe they could introduce a square footage metric into the equation.

EDIT: Example of what money buys outside of London.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...2;jsessionid=134315D89E6521F1AC48D3CB0BC52AC0

Out of interest, what do you count this geographic argument to be?

It does target locations with higher house prices yes but then they've enjoyed 20 years of booking inflation which has increased their estates wealth but more to the point this doesn't impact the benefactor. Or are you saying it unfairly targets benefactors from the South? Which is an odd argument

No one in the south east is sat hoping that their house value doesn't go up in case they're children will need to pay some tax.
 
....and right now this government if far better for that than the frankly disastrous efforts of Labour.
How do you work that one out? It wasn't Labour who caused a worldwide recession but global finance - the guys who support the Tories. Cameron and co then impose swingeing austerity to make small businesses and working people pay the bill (meanwhile global finance resumes trousering 7-figure bonuses).
 
How do you work that one out? It wasn't Labour who caused a worldwide recession but global finance - the guys who support the Tories. Cameron and co then impose swingeing austerity to make small businesses and working people pay the bill (meanwhile global finance resumes trousering 7-figure bonuses).

Correct..austerity never ever works. Making the 98% pay for failed economic policy only exacerbates it. Its been 5 years since the economic downturn and its still the centrepiece of the Tory governments economic policy. Put the little man in the hole and dont give him any opportunity to dig himself out.
 
Discussing the result, Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, said: “There is inevitably random variation between different polls, which generally falls within a ‘margin of error’ of plus or minus three points. The movement we’ve recorded since the March survey is within that normal bound, albeit only just.”

Boon said the sample chosen looks “demographically sound”, but acknowledges there are signs in the raw data that this sample “could be a just touch too Tory”. In particular, there are more 2010 Conservative voters than ICM would ordinarily expect, and also more voters from the professional occupational grade.
 
Ed Miliband has pledged to freeze rail fares for one year, cap the fare on every route and give passengers a "new legal right" to get the cheapest ticket for their journey. The £200 million cost will be funded by delaying road projects in Somerset and Portsmouth.

There are presently no sitting Labour MPs in the five constituencies of Somerset or the two which make up Portsmouth.
 
How do you work that one out? It wasn't Labour who caused a worldwide recession but global finance - the guys who support the Tories. Cameron and co then impose swingeing austerity to make small businesses and working people pay the bill (meanwhile global finance resumes trousering 7-figure bonuses).

I'm not necessarily just talking about work drying up, I don't blame Labour for the recession. All I know is they made a lot of changes that affected plenty like me in a lot of areas, and only now is it beginning to recover. I've been fed up for a long while, like most I imagine, trying to delve into the depths of each party and so now I make my voting decisions based on what I know and see.

I've never been a Tory voter, I'm well aware of what they primarily stand for. But as a very small business owner, about to enter the property market for the first time and having two little ones to worry about, I just can't see Labour getting it right at the moment. I'm sure there's realms of stats and figures and opinion on that one, but I honestly don't really believe Labour are in any kind of state to take over again.
 
Discussing the result, Martin Boon, of ICM Unlimited, said: “There is inevitably random variation between different polls, which generally falls within a ‘margin of error’ of plus or minus three points. The movement we’ve recorded since the March survey is within that normal bound, albeit only just.”

Boon said the sample chosen looks “demographically sound”, but acknowledges there are signs in the raw data that this sample “could be a just touch too Tory”. In particular, there are more 2010 Conservative voters than ICM would ordinarily expect, and also more voters from the professional occupational grade.

Yeah I read that. I think it will be a case of people will wait until the last minute and unless anyone makes a fatal error or pulls a proverbial political rabbit out of a hat, then they will stick with what they know and vote as they usually do. Better the devil you know and all that. The deciding factors could well be how well the SNP do and how many votes they take 9 (or not) from Labour.
 
There are presently no sitting Labour MPs in the five constituencies of Somerset or the two which make up Portsmouth.
Good spot, that's pretty shitty.
Yeah I read that. I think it will be a case of people will wait until the last minute and unless anyone makes a fatal error or pulls a proverbial political rabbit out of a hat, then they will stick with what they know and vote as they usually do. Better the devil you know and all that. The deciding factors could well be how well the SNP do and how many votes they take 9 (or not) from Labour.
Nah, Labour and SNP have pretty much no choice but to do a deal with the other. The election is, as ever, going to be decided by Labour/ Tory swing states.
 
Who here is in a marginal constituency? I'm in Ealing Central this time round... straight shoot out between the Conservative incumbent and the Labour challenger (I'm assuming the Lib Dems will be irrelevant this time). Could be close.
 
Labour's got East Oxford wound up. The lib dems used to come in an almost close second but since they fecked the students over they've no chance of even maintaining the gap. Greens have a chance of stealing the lib dems vote though and have been targeting us, but I can't see anything other than an overwhelming Labour majority.
 
@Silva are you by any chance in Oxford West and Abingdon?
East. Student vote's pretty big here with both universities having thousands of students in the area.

West is conservative, they've got the money and not many young people. West was extremely close last time but I suspect they Tories will win with people abandoning the Lib Dems for either the tories or parties more likely to oppose them.
 
The deciding factors could well be how well the SNP do and how many votes they take 9 (or not) from Labour.

Mr Balls said that while there will be cuts across Britain after the election under a Labour government, in Scotland they may be outweighed by an extra £800million of funding from the mansion tax and bank bonus levy. Both the taxes are raised predominantly on people living in the South East of England.

It came as a new TNS poll suggested that the SNP will win 52 per cent of the vote in Scotland, with Labour on just 24 per cent of the vote.

The poll suggested that the SNP has increased its lead by six points at the expense of Labour.


Labour MPs have privately acknowledged that the party is "dead" in Scotland and that the SNP has become "untouchable".

He told the Today programme on BBC Radio 4: "Yes, there will be cuts outside [protected] areas across all these budgets which will apply in England and in Scotland. But alongside that in our manifesto today we are also setting out ways in which, financed by tax changes, for example the mansion tax for the national health service, we can increase spending on our priorities.

"That will deliver, in 2015-16, £800m extra for Scotland, because that is their share of that money which is going for the bank bonus tax, for youth jobs, for more childcare, or for the NHS. Whether or not the overall Scottish budget is cut depends upon whether or not that £800m which is financed and extra is more than or less than our [unprotected] cuts. And that will depend on the scale of the [unprotected] cuts.

"I can't say to Scotland that you will be exempted from cuts in unprotected areas. But they are sensible."

Labour has previously suggested that a mansion tax will be used to fund 1,000 nurses in Scotland and the levy to guarantee jobs for Scotland's "young working-class".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...s-on-South-to-protect-Scotland-from-cuts.html


Perhaps i am misinterpreting Ed Balls' words from the interview, but it reads as if Labour have spent the Mansion Tax revenue twice. I was under the impression that the money was dedicated to the recruitment of nurses, whereas it is now being applied to other uses.
 
Good spot, that's pretty shitty.

I have no particular local knowledge to bring to bear here, however if any of them were marginals this is going to call for some impressive PR on the part of a prospective candidate (not this sort of thing is unique to Labour but it looks fairly blatant in this case). I suspect that both Labour and the Tories are contemplating further defence cuts, so how much traction exists there must be open to question.
 
What you're saying is you're voting on a vague gut feel/Tory propaganda about Labour mismanaging the economy - whereas the last 5 years show Tories failing to meet their financial targets, not making the rich pay their share and now making unfunded spending promises.

There seems to have been some sort of mix up with usernames there....
 
Perhaps i am misinterpreting Ed Balls' words from the interview, but it reads as if Labour have spent the Mansion Tax revenue twice. I was under the impression that the money was dedicated to the recruitment of nurses, whereas it is now being applied to other uses.
You're misunderstanding, he's mentioning the tax as funds raised from it will be put into Scotland through additional doctors and nurses.

On the subject of Scotland and the strong words used by the Labour MPs there, something radical may be needed after the election. Perhaps even a genuine separation of the Labour party in order to form a unionist party that can fight the SNP for the left vote, sort of similar to the CDU/CSU in Germany.
 
East. Student vote's pretty big here with both universities having thousands of students in the area.

West is conservative, they've got the money and not many young people. West was extremely close last time but I suspect they Tories will win with people abandoning the Lib Dems for either the tories or parties more likely to oppose them.

West has a tiny majority and its very much in the balance. Could be a Labour gain if enough people like you go and vote instead of staying at home :p
 
Who here is in a marginal constituency? I'm in Ealing Central this time round... straight shoot out between the Conservative incumbent and the Labour challenger (I'm assuming the Lib Dems will be irrelevant this time). Could be close.
538 and May2015 forecasting a Labour gain, but looks squeaky-bum close.

According to May2015 I'm in the 13th safest Tory seat in the country. Yaaay... At least Labour have a good chance of taking two of the Brighton seats from the Tories. Hope Lucas holds on to hers.
 
What you're saying is you're voting on a vague gut feel/Tory propaganda about Labour mismanaging the economy - whereas the last 5 years show Tories failing to meet their financial targets, not making the rich pay their share and now making unfunded spending promises.

Where did I say any of that? Wrong poster perhaps?
 
How the hell am I going all RAWK on you lot.

I admit, I made a bit of a blunder in reading on the opinion poll. But How is anything I said apart from the magnitude of the ukip threat RAWKish. This is the first time I am eligible for a vote and admittedly do not have the best understanding of how the system works.

Some of the labour voters here are extreme left and seems like would love to live in a total benifit state and are more RAWKish than anything I have seen even the dippers floating round the footy forums.
Why does everyone I know from Ashford talk like this (ignoring the RAWK sections, which on their own make no sense)? What do they put in the water down there?
 
I think that
After having read a few summaries of Labour's manifesto (no links to it are yet available), it would appear that departmental cuts and tax rises would be a theme of their time in office. The NHS and Education are afforded a degree of protected status, but after that...

Now they're are proposing to close a loophole that presently allows hedge funds to avoid tax, with the proceeds of which making up a chunk of new health spending; but does this not rather assume that those same companies will decline the opportunity of avoiding tax in other countries? I'd also have doubts over their projections for the MT, therefore the extent to which this money actually materialises ahs to be open to question. It could be the Government's own PPI. lol

It's the reason why Gordon Brown shied away from taxing the hedge funds.
 
I dont understand what exactly you mean by "talk like this".

Do you mean not agreeing with the labour policies of divisional politics and creating the threat of the far right protest vote.
Eh?
 
I think that


It's the reason why Gordon Brown shied away from taxing the hedge funds.
The tax grab will also hit everyday pension funds, although Labour obviously has form for that. Hedge funds are obviously singled out though, being one of the latest social demons.
 
Add to that increasing the top rate of tax to 50% and increasing CT by a point. Both will decrease the likelihood of talented people and profitable businesses coming to the UK. It's stunningly cynical given that it has been shown time and time again that a higher top rate actually decreases tax revenue, it's purely a political move to appear tough on the enemy, namely anyone successful.

Look at what happened in France when they increased the top rate, look at the increased tax revenues the exchequer received when the Conservatives cut the rate. The policy is completely nonsensical and exemplifies Labour's economic incompetence.

Agree with this, back in the day when I studied economics it was well proven that increasing tax rates didn't increase tax revenues. Having worked at blue chip corporates for the last 16 years I know that the top rate of tax works into decisions about where talent is located, and the tax on business generally is massive in investment decisions. Labour just smack of soundbites without thinking through the impact, just anti business, yet insist they will grow the economy more successfully, it's a joke, a kid in a sweetshop as far as spending is concerned as well.
 
The flight of business has already started. Its very slow right now but will start to show up in the bottomline soon enough. The bank I interned with last year was winding down an energy trading desk. The people who used to run the desk had all moved to Dubai, Singapore and Hongkong.

They claim that the will reduce out uni costs by bringing in a "Banker bonus tax", I fear for the lowly paid branch rep at the high street cuz the real fat cats are already hitting the escape button :lol:
No, that's funded by altering rules around pension tax relief on high incomes.
 
Agree with this, back in the day when I studied economics it was well proven that increasing tax rates didn't increase tax revenues. Having worked at blue chip corporates for the last 16 years I know that the top rate of tax works into decisions about where talent is located, and the tax on business generally is massive in investment decisions. Labour just smack of soundbites without thinking through the impact, just anti business, yet insist they will grow the economy more successfully, it's a joke, a kid in a sweetshop as far as spending is concerned as well.

No, what is known is that eventually if you keep hiking up the tax rate you will start to see a decline in revenues. The question is at what point does this happen. If there was some magic formula that meant you could decrease taxes and see increased tax revenues, every country would implement it because it is win win. The truth is that it only tends to work when taxes are at a higher rate than they currently are in the UK.
 
Yeah my bad again. Its not the unifees, its the jobs guarantee that milliband will create out of the "banker bonus tax"


This is a false promise. This money clearly does not exist and there is no chance of their ever being this money. The fat cat bankers dont get paid a thick wad of cash for their bonus. Only if anyone in the laboue party knew...
You're suggesting you can't tax banker bonuses? Odd, because that's exactly what was done back in 2010.
 
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No, what is known is that eventually if you keep hiking up the tax rate you will start to see a decline in revenues. The question is at what point does this happen. If there was some magic formula that meant you could decrease taxes and see increased tax revenues, every country would implement it because it is win win. The truth is that it only tends to work when taxes are at a higher rate than they currently are in the UK.

Yep that's why economist study what happens to tax revenue when you raise taxes beyond a certain tipping point, which Labour will take the country beyond.
 
Yes, a select few. The IFS has said the changes will only affect a small number, who are by and large wealthy. If you think that's a priority at a time when services are still being cut good on you, but not many in the country will agree.

"select few" is an odd term to use for the group people that will benefit - it's not like it's the 25,000 richest estates. You'd be hard pressed to identify who will benefit at this point in time. Leaving aside the fact that you don't know who is going to die or who/how wealthy the inheritors are going to be, inheritance tax is easy to avoid. You only need to look at the number of houses there are in the country (owned outright) that are worth more than the threshold (not even taking to account other assets). Do you think it is anywhere near as low as 5%? It is a tax on the unprepared, and the wealthy are scarcely less able to avoid it.

In any case, the tax cut is tapered off so that it has no effect on the truly wealthy.

The top 1% of earners on the other hand (who are paying for it) are easy to identify - the exact set of people that Labour have been calling for to be taxed (when not doing the opposite). It's a transfer of wealth from the very highest earners to the mid-to-high wealthiest. Nothing to do with cutting services.
 
Who here is in a marginal constituency? I'm in Ealing Central this time round... straight shoot out between the Conservative incumbent and the Labour challenger (I'm assuming the Lib Dems will be irrelevant this time). Could be close.

My constituencies generally always been a very comfortable safe seat for Labour, although it's one which the SNP may take, but Labour also may just hold onto. Difficult to tell who'll take it right now.