Miliband did very well there, I think.
Genuinely seemed to get a bit wound up and it worked for him.
Genuinely seemed to get a bit wound up and it worked for him.
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Paxman was a bit of a dick with the "are you alright" bit, so fecking patronising.
Tory twat
Tory twat
Now for the arm wrestling.
Ed came off well there, genuine. While Cameron answered the questions better as a politician.
That was pretty brutal, almost looked like was on the verge of tears there.
I don't think he knew they were still on. He wouldn't be that intentionally unprofessional.
Did it really though?
HELL YEAH
I don't know man. I mean, I like Paxman, but that was a bit too far.
Haven't watched, but by the looks of the replies in here it seems fair to say no-one's going to have been persuaded to change their vote? 
It kind of did at one point but he turned it round at the end tbf, but Paxo's cuntiness being personal will probably score for Ed as well in all honesty.
He beat Cameron. Miliband's questions were personal and answered them well. Paxman hardly grilled him on his answers as they were answered well. Early in the interview Paxman had him rattled
Oh yes, he would.
He knew exactly what he was doing there, very unprofessional
Ed decided to go 2nd. Risky but paid off.
Cameron the better politician, Ed arguably more human.
Haven't watched, but by the looks of the replies in here it seems fair to say no-one's going to have been persuaded to change their vote?
I don't know about changing votes, but like most left-leaning people, I haven't been that convinced by Ed Milliband so far, but he did come across better than I expected him to tonight, so points to him.
Ed quickly getting in the "Yeah, you?" was good for him too.
Miliband had to be as nasty as he could back
Thought the the line of questioning to Milliband was totally unreasonable tbh. Just wish he'd have actually challenged them on it and just said the uk will vote on the policies right for them not on party leaders siblings or eating techniques.
Its why the Tory's didn't want a head-to-head debate as they couldn't make those 'character' points without looking like cnuts
Its why the Tory's didn't want a head-to-head debate as they couldn't make those 'character' points without looking like cnuts
Think I finally saw why Cameron has been chickening out on a direct debate with Miliband - it was something I could never work out before. Cameron really doesn't have any answers and is relying on his mates in the media to help him out.
Christ BBC1 have just declared Milliband won. I'm not sure I know what's going on any more. (or previously)
Miliband = Moyes
First responses:
(Telegraph): SILLY MILI WETS HIMSELF
(Guardian): ED STUFFS PAXO
(Telegraph): SILLY MILI WETS HIMSELF
(Guardian): ED STUFFS PAXO
I think he did. You have to judge these things in the context and Ed was starting from lower expectations. It looks a better night for him than Cameron.
Thought Ed recovered relatively well after a shaky first few minutes. Seemed suitably steady and strong towards the end.
BBC are labour personified so no surprise really.
Can we agree Paxman and his tory woman sidekick lost?
Maybe not Labour personified but certainly as left-leaning as Sky are right-leaning.
I take it you don't know anything about Andrew Neil.
The one with the wax face?
Yep.
The Economist says Ed won too: "First TV duel of British election campaign over. Verdict: passionate Ed Miliband bested tetchy David Cameron. Full details on @EconBritain."
The Economist can hardly be described as left leaning...
You make a statement to that effect.
You would have to be an one-eyed Cameron lover to think he did better than Miliband tonight. The question really is how well did Miliband really do..
Guardian ICM poll shows Cameron wins - just: Cameron 54%, Miliband 46%
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ameron-ed-miliband-jeremy-paxman-live-updates
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ameron-ed-miliband-jeremy-paxman-live-updates
Its the first poll out.
Think Labour will be relatively happy with that, given that the gap is a lot narrower than their approval ratings.
I know, I'm just confused at the results!