UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority

How did you vote in the 2015 General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 67 20.0%
  • Labour

    Votes: 152 45.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 15 4.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 6.9%
  • SNP

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Did not vote

    Votes: 43 12.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 9 2.7%

  • Total voters
    335
  • Poll closed .
That report about Ed returning to the shadow cabinet was dismissed by one of his aides yesterday for whatever it's worth. I didn't think it was a good idea at all either.
Fair enough.

I'm not sure I see the harm. Don't think he's toxic and he's certainly not got the kind of support that could make him difficult for the new leader. Can see why he wouldn't fancy it though.
 
Interesting article from a couple of years ago
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ntry-came-from-his-former-office-8569083.html
i wonder if that might crop up in the election?
If not, it certainly will if he's leader of the opposition.

Fair enough.

I'm not sure I see the harm. Don't think he's toxic and he's certainly not got the kind of support that could make him difficult for the new leader. Can see why he wouldn't fancy it though.
Just a bit awkward, Labour look likely to essentially disown his programme and record. I'm not sure I can remember any cases of one of the big two parties having a leader go into another leading post right after losing big either.

Lord Sugar also resigns from the party, kick 'em while they're down then Alan.
 
Lord Sugar also resigns from the party, kick 'em while they're down then Alan.

F*ck him. Practically every Sugar product I've ever bought fell to bits eventually.
 
F*ck him. Practically every Sugar product I've ever bought fell to bits eventually.
Dissolved?

He does still seem to be dining off the 80s and reality TV.
 
Interesting article from a couple of years ago
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ntry-came-from-his-former-office-8569083.html
i wonder if that might crop up in the election?

Man of the people. Seems both arrogant and petulant to me, don't like him.
A senior Labour MP has apologised for any offence caused by a complaint that London's nightclubs were “full of trash”.

Shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna made the comments on an exclusive social network website aimed at "the world's tastemakers".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ons-nightclubs-are-full-of-trash-8561809.html
 
To be fair to him London nightclubs are full of trash.
So are pretty much all clubs full stop, tbf. Not great referring to a chunk of the electorate as 'trash' though. If Cameron said it about a strata of society, he'd be pilloried for it.
 
Labour's Alastair Campbell: "Debate is dangerous."

I've just been listening to last week's QT, where quite frankly the performance of the panel was atrocious (Hartley-Brewer aside perhaps). They completely ignored the question put about EVEL, Ashdown, who still appears to be in shock, simply rambled on about destructive nationalism before the discussion again returned to Scotland. John Swinney was insufferably prosing on at every opportunity, and the aforementioned Campbell all too eager to bicker with Maude.
 
So are pretty much all clubs full stop, tbf. Not great referring to a chunk of the electorate as 'trash' though. If Cameron said it about a strata of society, he'd be pilloried for it.

Fine be like that.
 
Labour's Alastair Campbell: "Debate is dangerous."

I've just been listening to last week's QT, where quite frankly the performance of the panel was atrocious (Hartley-Brewer aside perhaps). They completely ignored the question put about EVEL, Ashdown, who still appears to be in shock, simply rambled on about destructive nationalism before the discussion again returned to Scotland. John Swinney was insufferably prosing on at every opportunity, and the aforementioned Campbell all too eager to bicker with Maude.
The point they were making about EVEL was that it essentially cedes the unionist case by playing the english off against the scots. But that was the (successful) Tory strategy the whole campaign, so it's not entirely surprising.
 
The point they were making about EVEL was that it essentially cedes the unionist case by playing the english off against the scots. But that was the (successful) Tory strategy the whole campaign, so it's not entirely surprising.

But that wasn't what the woman asked, she made a valid enquiry about the concerns of English voters and was either derided or ignored. It's just like the Owen Jones appearance on Dateline London, lessons are not being learnt.
 
But that wasn't what the woman asked, she made a valid enquiry about the concerns of English voters and was either derided or ignored. It's just like the Owen Jones appearance on Dateline London, lessons are not being learnt.
I can't even remember the question to be honest, I just tend to be slightly surprised that people think English voters are the ones hard done by over the years. There needs to be a new settlement, agreed, but EVEL is a sledgehammer that'll bring independence for Scotland. I thought Campbell and Ashdown were right to first and foremost highlight the astonishing damage Cameron and the Tories did to the chances of the Union they professed to love but 6 months beforehand. All in the means of electoral advantage. At least the SNP were open about that.

In other news:


Sounds bigger than I thought, I was expected a shortish statement.
 
If anyone on here ever becomes a politician, the press are going to have a field day reading through these.
 
This may end up entertaining - from the writer that's publishing a book next month having followed Farage on the campaign trail:

 
:lol:Wow, Farage Ukip U-turn after just three days.
 
I can't even remember the question to be honest, I just tend to be slightly surprised that people think English voters are the ones hard done by over the years. There needs to be a new settlement, agreed, but EVEL is a sledgehammer that'll bring independence for Scotland. I thought Campbell and Ashdown were right to first and foremost highlight the astonishing damage Cameron and the Tories did to the chances of the Union they professed to love but 6 months beforehand. All in the means of electoral advantage.

And the status quo (until Scottish voters turned their back on them) hasn't afforded the least political advantage at all in certain quarters, such would certainly not have influenced Labour opposition to constitutional change. :) Maybe it doesn't though, it could just be the party's rather sketchy and opportunistic interpretation of democracy in this country. The journey toward independence began years ago and not a mere six months, and the union hasn't been adequately bolstered in the interim.

There was no first an foremost to what Campbell and Ashdown said, for they didn't elaborate further; the questioner was written off as some evil nationalist and told to trot on out of their orbit.


In other news:


Sounds bigger than I thought, I was expected a shortish statement.


Chukka might want to hit the clubs this evening to take his mind off things.

If Miliband did put hsi name forward for the leadership, who do you think could offer the best challenge to his chances?
 
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If an organisation rejects a person's resignation, surely that person is still free to resign? Or am I mistaken?
 
How incredibly predictable.
 
And the status quo (until Scottish voters turned their back on them) hasn't afford the least political advantage at all in certain quarters, such would certainly not have influenced Labour opposition to constitutional change. :) Maybe it doesn't though, it could just be the party's rather sketchy and opportunistic interpretation of democracy in this country. The journey toward independence began years ago and not a mere six months, and the union hasn't been adequately bolstered in the interim.

There was no first an foremost to what Campbell and Ashdown said, for they didn't elaborate further; the questioner was written off as some evil nationalist and told to trot on out of their orbit.

That's an exaggeration Nick, it was just the politician's usual trick of reforming the question to one they're more comfortable answering and able to attack their opponents with.

Chukka might want to hit the clubs this evening to take his mind off things.

If Miliband did put hsi name forward for the leadership, who do you think could offer the best challenge to his chances?
The best challenge at the moment is his lack of a seat which scuppers it immediately, but in theory terms I don't think there would be a real challenge, Chuka, Kendall and Hunt would lose their support immediately, Burnham and Cooper wouldn't stand much hope in the long run. As it happens I think his campaign now would be miles better than the one he put on in 2010 which I found uninspiring and awkward, weighed down by several years of pressure and expectation alongside the suspicion of "New Labour". That's gone now and he has direct evidence of the perils of leaving what worked behind.

Speaking of which, BBC's interview with him is on at 5pm.
 
:lol:feck, Ed Miliband has just returned now too.
or not, sadly
 
Blimey, Weaste is now LibDem leader.
 
There's no point in having parties with no distance between them (as the Lib Dems have just discovered). London is the most progressive, multicultural, global place in the UK hence more in tune with Labour values.

In theory. In practice, the mayor of London is a staunch Tory but manages to espouse the batty but open, modern and business-friendly side to the city's culture better than most Labour representatives.

Labour did a very poor job of presenting this side to their politics. Some of the economic policies were absurd, and the idea of Balls as Chancellor? Nearly as bad as the Sturgeon effect.
 
D Miliband says he won't be standing for leader but wants to play a part in Labour's future. Back in parliament within a couple of years then.
 
Chuka is definitely a leader for the future but could this be too soon for him? Wouldnt he be better off getting a bit more experience under his belt first?
Yes I would say so. Unfortunately the trend these days seems to be to choose someone young, clean cut and as appealing and possible in the hope the voters will like them more than the leader of the other parties. (Churchill would never have been elected in today's world).

Much prefer to have the country run by someone who is older, wiser, more sensible and more experienced.