UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority

How did you vote in the 2015 General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 67 20.0%

  • Labour

    Votes: 152 45.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 15 4.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 23 6.9%

  • SNP

    Votes: 9 2.7%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 11 3.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Did not vote

    Votes: 43 12.8%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 1.2%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • Total voters
    335
  • Poll closed .
Sweet Square said:
Thanks for the reply.

I'm guessing for the other Lib Dem you knew the Economy was the turning factor ? It's seem the way the Lib Dem vote went really did surprised people(me included) .I'll be honest though I'm slightly disappointed in how anyone on the left really could switch to voting for 'them' lot. The Fecking Torys all people :(:(
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It's Tory Lite these days. UKIP sucked out the racists and the thatcherites.

Likewise in all truth Blair and Cameron are really not all that different.

Labour just isn't Labour anymore, and when it tried to be left-wing Miliband fecked it.
 
Acole9 said:
After seeing the results today I am deeply concerned about the buffoons potentially voting us out of Europe which would be disastrous.
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If Farage doesn't run for UKIP leader again, they'll probably start to fall back into obscurity. If so, we won't have a partly strongly arguing against the EU, and it'll be a bit of a whitewash providing Murdoch and co tell us to stay.
 
FortBoyard said:
It's Tory Lite these days. UKIP sucked out the racists and the thatcherites.

Likewise in all truth Blair and Cameron are really not all that different.

Labour just isn't Labour anymore, and when it tried to be left-wing Miliband fecked it.
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I think their problem was that they lacked conviction. They were more left-wing than the Blair era, but still had the presence of that era looming over it since a lot of the MP's were still quite similar, with someone like Jim Murphy having a major influence in Scotland.
 
Sweet Square said:
Thanks for the reply.

I'm guessing for the other Lib Dem you knew the Economy was the turning factor ? It's seem the way the Lib Dem vote went really did surprised people(me included) .I'll be honest though I'm slightly disappointed in how anyone on the left really could switch to voting for 'them' lot. The Fecking Torys all people :(:(
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In some cases where it was a race between Lib Dem and Conservative people switched from yellow to red and that let the Tories in almost by default. In my constituency the Conservative vote stayed almost exactly the same but Lib Dems lost 8,000- the votes divided between Labour and UKIP nowhere near enough to make up the difference.
 
Can we not just reset the poll and do it all again, but right this time?
 
MikeUpNorth said:
:lol: You're in for a nice surprise.
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Yup, they're still there and this time are the difference for Cameron between having an overall majority and not, rather than being able to rely on the Lib Dems.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
:lol: You're in for a nice surprise.
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I respectfully disagree, I believe it is you that are in for a surprise.

Although you are probably quite entrenched labour, so may be hard for you to view this objectively.

Probably a fourth generation Labour voter, who follows them like a football team?
 
Cheesy said:
I think their problem was that they lacked conviction. They were more left-wing than the Blair era, but still had the presence of that era looming over it since a lot of the MP's were still quite similar, with someone like Jim Murphy having a major influence in Scotland.
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Agree with this. Labour had to make a stand at this election and provide a hard alternative to what the Tories were proposing, and in reality they offered basically the same package with the worst excesses curbed. If they'd offered a proposition for real change they probably wouldn't have lost so many disillusioned voters to UKIP (in a lot of cases a vote for UKIP is a vote against the status quo rather than an actual vote for far-right politics) and the Greens (in my experience, people who vote Green largely do so because of their egalitarian social policies rather than their environmental ones). Not to mention they'd probably have done better in Scotland.

For what its worth, I think Ed was far more left wing than his electoral campaign suggested. He was voted in as a left-wing leader, but ultimately was prevented from following through thanks to a combination of the Blairite hangover you mentioned and fear of getting torn apart in the Tory press even more than he did.
 
Silva said:
We talking about the party that had to be dragged into voting for same sex marriage by the opposition?
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Half Conservative MPs voted for same sex marriage.

You really think that the conservative backbenchers can control the social agenda in a parliament that contains about 260 moderate conservatives, 260 labour, 60 SNP.

Do you realise how laws get passed?
 
FortBoyard said:
The majority of Conservative MPs voted for same sex marriage.

You really think that the conservative backbenchers can control the social agenda in a parliament that contains about 260 moderate conservatives, 260 labour, 60 SNP.

Do you realise how laws get passed?
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Backbenchers are nothing but people shouting in a room.
 
FortBoyard said:
The majority of Conservative MPs voted for same sex marriage.

You really think that the conservative backbenchers can control the social agenda in a parliament that contains about 260 moderate conservatives, 260 labour, 60 SNP.

Do you realise how laws get passed?
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No, they didn't.
 
Ok it was near 50/50 I was wrong on that.

My point stands though that half of a small majority is a large minority in the current parliament.
 
FortBoyard said:
I respectfully disagree, I believe it is you that are in for a surprise.

Although you are probably quite entrenched labour, so may be hard for you to view this objectively.

Probably a fourth generation Labour voter, who follows them like a football team?
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The overt racists have gone from the parliamentary party, but it's stuffed full of Thatcherites. They wouldn't deny that themselves, she's their idol.

I predict this parliament will see a huge increase in the inheritance tax threshold, more cuts to welfare, further privatisations (including council association housing, more of the NHS, possibly Channel 4 and parts of the BBC), some further deregulation of financial services, further curbing of unions and workers rights (including restrictions on the right to strike). You know, the end-game of Thatcherism.
 
FortBoyard said:
It's Tory Lite these days. UKIP sucked out the racists and the thatcherites.

Likewise in all truth Blair and Cameron are really not all that different.

Labour just isn't Labour anymore, and when it tried to be left-wing Miliband fecked it.
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I'm hoping Labour will try to stick with this left wing business(There was a least a left idea with Miliband) but after yesterday the looming for Blair MK2 will be strong.

Agree to a point about UKIP taking the most rotten elements of the Tory party out(They also seem to have carry 3 million voters with them as well). As for this Tory 'Lite' you mentioned, sadly I don't think it exist.

Amethyst said:
In some cases where it was a race between Lib Dem and Conservative people switched from yellow to red and that let the Tories in almost by default. In my constituency the Conservative vote stayed almost exactly the same but Lib Dems lost 8,000- the votes divided between Labour and UKIP nowhere near enough to make up the difference.
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Oh I'm sure there where lots of Lib Dem who didn't vote Tory, I'm just surprised at the vocal number who did.

My constituency has been Tory for years and there was no chance of any change. But to go to the ballot box and vote Tory as a 'Lefty'(Sorry @FortBoyard I don't mean to be having a go)I just couldn't do it.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
The overt racists have gone from the parliamentary party, but it's stuffed full of Thatcherites. They wouldn't deny that themselves, she's their idol.

I predict this parliament will see a huge increase in the inheritance tax threshold, more cuts to welfare, further privatisations (including council association housing, more of the NHS, possibly Channel 4 and parts of the BBC) and likely some deregulation of financial services. You know, the end-game of Thatcherism.
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Channel 4 is privately run anyway right?
 
MikeUpNorth said:
The overt racists have gone from the parliamentary party, but it's stuffed full of Thatcherites. They wouldn't deny that themselves, she's their idol.

I predict this parliament will see a huge increase in the inheritance tax threshold, more cuts to welfare, further privatisations (including council association housing, more of the NHS, possibly Channel 4 and parts of the BBC) and likely some deregulation of financial services. You know, the end-game of Thatcherism.
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Just out of interest do you believe that increased public spending through raised taxation is an intelligent way to allow the country recover from the darkest days of recession?

Unfortunately a price has to be paid.
 
FortBoyard said:
Ok it was near 50/50 I was wrong on that.

My point stands though that half of a small majority is a large minority in the current parliament.
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I don't get what you're saying, that Cameron will run his government as a minority moderate Tory one relying on support from Labour to push through his agenda? There are going to be £12bn of Welfare cuts next year that your party described as cruel, that and more will be carried out by his government as it's what we haven't seen for nearly 20 years - a Tory majority one, and even weaker than it was back then.
 
FortBoyard said:
Just out of interest do you believe that increased public spending through raised taxation is an intelligent way to allow the country recover from the darkest days of recession?

Unfortunately a price has to be paid.
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Public spending should rise during a period of depressed demand to compensate for lack of private investment. That's just basic, uncontroversial economics.

Even if you want spending cuts, there are ways to spread them so that the poor do not face the worst pain.
 
FortBoyard said:
Just out of interest do you believe that increased public spending through raised taxation is an intelligent way to allow the country recover from the darkest days of recession?

Unfortunately a price has to be paid.
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Just so long as you're not paying it, eh?
 
FortBoyard said:
Just out of interest do you believe that increased public spending through raised taxation is an intelligent way to allow the country recover from the darkest days of recession?

Unfortunately a price has to be paid.
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The way to recover from a recession is

a) learn from your mistakes - don't let the country be so dependent on the financial sector, which inevitably ties the economy to boom/bust cycles.
b) save and spend - spend money on the things that affect the people, reinvest in the economy and cut unnecessary spending (i.e - don't spend billions on nuclear weapons).
c) raise more money - tax those who can afford it to help the people who are feeling the effects of the recession.

A Tory government will do none of that. A Labour government probably wouldn't have either, but the reversal of tax breaks for the rich and implementation of new taxes on the rich would have taken some of the edge off the cuts.
 
Silva said:
Public spending is the intelligent way to get out of a recession. Creates growth.
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This isn't Mussolinis Italy. What do you think we are going to do, get everyone out building railways?

How on earth in a gloabalised economy would increaed public spending create growth in the UK? feck me Spanish contractors or Swiss middlemen or whatever would be benefactors.

This isn't the 1930s and we aren't an autarky.

Furthermore how does increased Welfare spending return to the public purse?
 
FortBoyard said:
This isn't Mussolinis Italy. What do you think we are going to do, get everyone out building railways?

How on earth in a gloabalised economy would increaed public spending create growth in the UK? feck me Spanish contractors or Swiss middlemen or whatever would be benefactors.

This isn't the 1930s and we aren't an autarky.

Furthermore how does increased Welfare spending return to the public purse?
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Build houses, keep people employed. Build community centers, loads of things you can do. Invest in education, research and development. List goes on and on.

Through taxes, obviously.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
b) save and spend - spend money on the things that affect the people, reinvest in the economy and cut unnecessary spending (i.e - don't spend billions on nuclear weapons).
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The £100 billion Trident program just seems bizarre...is it really necessary? Don't really see a conventional war being the UK's biggest threat anymore.
 
Anyone watching this Question Time? Weak lineup of panelists but to be expected I guess.
 
FortBoyard said:
I'm referring to corporation tax which will drive companies which have no REAL tie to the UK overseas to a more favourable country.
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You appeared to be referring to austerity in your (quoted) post and braying the Tory mantra.
 
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