That's Labour's challenge - to get them out to to vote in their self-interest as the Tories do. See 2010 voting percentages by class:
Social Class/turnout/vote
AB 76% (+13% Tory over Labour)
C1 66% (+11%)
C2 58% (+8%)
DE 57% (-10%)
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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Social Class/turnout/vote
AB 76% (+13% Tory over Labour)
C1 66% (+11%)
C2 58% (+8%)
DE 57% (-10%)
Why won't you answer the question?
Because you predicted I wouldn't.
I want to give you one win today my friend!
I imagine that a lot of people feel that it's only going to cause more fragmentation and division within the UK, eventually leading to Scotland leaving completely. I think it could be a good idea though - there's some major division in the UK right now, and simply waiting for it to go okay isn't going to do anything.
Interesting and informed as ever. Ta mate.I sort of did in a round about way, i think.
Had there been a Labour threat locally perhaps my convictions would have been tested, as it was i never had to contend with such a choice.
Yup. BJP has done more in last 1 year in power than Congress did in last 10. We have Modi haters with their petty agendas and because their hate and downplaying his chances of win earlier fell so flat on face, now they talk utter bullshit. I just read those comments and have a nice giggle..
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...mic-reform-us-expert/articleshow/47173271.cms
What an awful two days.
Yesterday I was driving home from dropping my youngest son to school and heard the amazing news that United had signed Depay. I was over the moon and looking forward to the day and being here on the caf. Then my ex wife started giving me shite about custody of our youngest son (our eldest lives with me and she hasn't bothered with him for nearly 3 years) despite us having a court ruling and despite it costing me £12,000 to get the court ruling. £12,000 wasted really as she only took me to court to be a bitch and use the kids against me, the courts didn't care and ruled shared custody despite mountains of evidence against her including evidence from both our boys.
So I spend last night pretty upset and caught between a rock and a hard place regarding custody of my youngest son. Then the election starts. Enough said! I fall asleep at 5am and wake at 12:15 and am late for work. I run downstairs to the pub to start my shift and am instantly confronted with 30 members of the local Tory party out celebrating, and they have chosen our pub for Lunch.
Let's just say I doubt they will be back, and I might have to look for another job because I wasn't as tactful as I should have been when they asked my feelings on the election result.
I actually want to cry.
Yesterday I was driving home from dropping my youngest son to school and heard the amazing news that United had signed Depay. I was over the moon and looking forward to the day and being here on the caf. Then my ex wife started giving me shite about custody of our youngest son (our eldest lives with me and she hasn't bothered with him for nearly 3 years) despite us having a court ruling and despite it costing me £12,000 to get the court ruling. £12,000 wasted really as she only took me to court to be a bitch and use the kids against me, the courts didn't care and ruled shared custody despite mountains of evidence against her including evidence from both our boys.
So I spend last night pretty upset and caught between a rock and a hard place regarding custody of my youngest son. Then the election starts. Enough said! I fall asleep at 5am and wake at 12:15 and am late for work. I run downstairs to the pub to start my shift and am instantly confronted with 30 members of the local Tory party out celebrating, and they have chosen our pub for Lunch.
Let's just say I doubt they will be back, and I might have to look for another job because I wasn't as tactful as I should have been when they asked my feelings on the election result.
I actually want to cry. Huw Edwards is broadcasting live on the election 2015 BBC page but they don't know it, they're just discussing random things internally
Starts from 13:57 if anyone wants to see it all.
Starts from 13:57 if anyone wants to see it all.
I do wonder if a vote to compulsary voting (like in Australia) or internet voting which I believe is an option in some countries were introduced if this would make a major difference?
Did Salmond just have the cheek to criticise EVEL? I must've misheard.
I prefer the Gin, Gambling and Desserts Party.
I am pleased that this increases the chances of an EU referendum, certainly, however there are government departments and programmes where i await the cuts with interest. Though inevitable regardless of the winner i9t is now time for the unnerving detail.
I prefer the Gin, Gambling and Desserts Party.
I am pleased that this increases the chances of an EU referendum, certainly, however there are government departments and programmes where i await the cuts with interest. Though inevitable regardless of the winner i9t is now time for the unnerving detail.
Online voting will come and should boost Labour turnout.
'Idiots' are legally barred from voting in UK elections.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/news/vote2001/hi/english/voting_system/newsid_1171000/1171908.stm
A Kinnock won my constituency, UKIP came second and the Lib Dems narrowly beat Captain Beany by a couple of hundred votes (yes, that is a real person http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beany).
The website could force the electorate to read summaries of the manifestos prior to voting. There ought to be some effort involved.
24 hours ago the argument was if FPTP can't deliver a majority Govt we should change from FPTP. Now it has and we get this type of argument.
We had a referendum on this and FPTP won easily. It is a simple system, we have used it for hundreds of years, people understand it and it has popular support. All the other systems have just as many weaknesses and are just as flawed in all be it different ways. I must be missing something because the whole debate seems pointless.
it should come in - and id personally like to see a compulsory voting system like Australia (say a £52 fine if you dont vote and if on benefits its docked at £1 a week for a year) - however there should be a none of the above option as well if its compulsary... imagine if say 30% of people voted none of the above it would really make parties try and engage with people a lot more
They have a system in Estonia where people use a reader and their ID cards to vote. They use those readers for virtually everything there and the ID card holds all their details including medical, criminal etc.
They should definitely bring online voting because that way there will be a much much bigger turnout. At least 5 people at my work did not vote as they didn't find the time!
Maybe they could do one of those online policy chooser things - choose the policies you like most and it'll vote automatically for you based on your choices...
Which is disgusting really, I dont disagree with online voting in general, but if someone will only vote when they dont have to get off their arse and make even the tiniest bit of effort then they shouldnt have a vote.
Voting is a right, it should be made as easy as possible.
Maybe you should have to do a series of buzzfeed quizzes, so they can understand your deepest and most intimate secrets and beliefs.
They deserve everything they got this election.
While I see what you're saying it is important to be careful with that kind of rhetoric. There are many factors that lead to low turnout among the poorer in society and we can't fall into the trap of equating being poor with being lazy, which isn't a huge leap from that kind of claim.
1) That is 1 benefit or FPTP yes, that we get strong governments. Not always but often. The problems of FPTP remain.
2) We didnt have a referendum of Proportional Representation.
3) The alternative really isn't that difficult. Under Single Transferable Vote you write the number 1. Then 2. Then 3.
4) The alternatives are not "all" as flawed in different ways
Our family income plus the consultancy work we undertake through our company should make me vote for the thr right of politics out of self interest but the older I get the more I move to the left even though it costs me money.
I've sympathy for some of the individual MPs. Clegg, Alexander et al deserve everything they've got.
WTF? Voting should be difficult?
my wife didnt vote yesterday - the baby was ill so she found it difficult to get out of the house and unfortunately our regular childcare was also ill (my mother who also didnt make it out) and I was busy with work - when it got to the evening she had only got a coupleof hours sleep the night before and just wanted to crash rather than go out in the rain.
if she could have voted online I think she would - so I feel we should embrase and use the technology.
they could have requested postal votes I suppose but you know what in this day and age why not just allow online voting as well.
Sold their soul to the devil and are now reaping the rewards.
I guess I have sympathy for those who aren't Clegg supporters like Kennedy, I was sorry for him I guess. But yeah, Clegg, Alexander, Clarke they all got what was coming to them. I know of a student who votes greens for locals and tory for the general, that is how bad things are.
They betrayed an entire generation of people who will not forget this.
IN this day and age there has to be a better way, a digital way, to vote.
It is, but if someone will only vote when they can do it without leaving their chair what are the odds of them actually having read the manifestos and making an informed descision rather than voting labour because "tories are posh snobs innit". If online voting is coming I like what @bishblaize suggested, where you select the policies you agree with and the vote is calculated from that.
Specifically because of tuition fees, or by working with the Tories at all.
So what? Voting is not subject to intelligence or diligence tests. Not to mention the people who are working or taking care of children or handicapped or a bunch of other reasons.