Bye Bye Farage.Good fecking riddance.
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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lol @ Farage
Let's see if he's true to his word now. He looks absolutely gutted.
headline of the morning so far:Ed Balls out
Oh, for the want of a comma and a stag night photo!
BrilliantAll hail to the ale!
its going to take a long time to pick through the mess. Labour actually gained 20 odd seats as well as losing 40 odd, so its not simply that their support was erroded. As you suggest the political landscape is very complex indeed.
Dont forget that we're probably going to get boundary changes of some sort or another as well, which will hit Labour further.
The guy behind Farage
UKIP - the party of young working women?
Bold claim by Farage there.
Bold claim by Farage there.
Imagine a crazy world where Big Dave decided all major cities should only be one seat for the entire city...
lol at the people in the crowd following Farage off the stage as the Labour candidate prepares to speak
Seems happy about it.
You say, that
But yeah. I mean, the tories are giving us a referendum anyway.
UKIP's policy on immigration needs to change slightly regardless. So does the Lib Dems
Obviously there's a lot of dismay this morning, the thing is that most working people will be better off under a Tory government. Look on the bright side chaps; you aren't going to have to pay higher taxes. All the scaremongering about "our NHS" is largely overblown, they've committed to put more money in and they have over the last 5 years.
Yup. Terrible day for the left in England and Wales, and Scottish Labour most of all.
Thought Al Murry would take some more votes off UKIP. That's what he was standing for, wasn't it?
The man says he's "Never felt happier" ... well that's a bit of a shit thing to say for your party isn't it!? You've just lost your feckin' seat at the table and you've never felt happier!? And they wonder why politicians have a reputation for spouting shite. What a tit.
I genuinely quite like Ed. Still rather him than Burnham, Chukka, Cooper or any of the other obvious alternatives. Who's our Nicola Sturgeon?
But UKIP came second in a lot of seats, and his party has seen a huge rise in terms of votes. I can imagine he's pretty happy about that.
Farage
Farage loses
This result is getting better and better!
This result is getting better and better!
So, how long do we think the Tory majority will hold on in the House of Commons? A majority of say six, or maybe ten, will probably be whittled away?
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
But he's still lost his seat - and one of UKIP's main seats in Parliament. Yeah he can be happy with some things - but to say he's "never felt happier" is ridiculous. It's a huge blow for him... if he seemingly doesn't care, why should anyone that voted for him?
For all their number gains, they haven't made any actual ground in Parliament - in fact they've lost ground, so all their "success" has amounted to nothing.
Well you don't have anyone left do you? All your best candidates have been blow away by SNP, so you don't have anyone left to even be in the shadow cabinet. I said last night at 11.00pm, those 3 safe seats in Sunderland have nobody candidates, you should have had your heavyweights in there, and all your best people have gone in the Scottish cull.
You fecked up really badly, you're like the Liverpool of politics.
I just found out Balls lost his seat \o/
This election just went from good to great.
This election just went from good to great.
Would hold but with great power for backbenchers, and the 1922 committee which is seemingly biding its time for the right moment to dethrone Cameron.
Yes a win for the Tories but it is very fragile.
Dang!
Full Conservative government, feels like the red wedding..
Full Conservative government, feels like the red wedding..
It will be like 1992 with majors government spending most of its time trying to keep euro skeptic MP's in line.
Depending which MP's are naughty or die could also make a difference as its quite possible to see a couple of by-elections each year which if in marginal conservative seats could easily see that majority quickly fall to a tiny amount - though on the flip side its unlikley statistically that all the by elections would fall in such seats so they will probably be ok - just forced much further to the right - particularly on Europe where it is no secret a number of conservative MP's would quite like to campaign on coming out in any referendum.
There really isn't. Having 100 political parties in an election is of no good when they support the same stuff across the board. In your case, the spending cuts, supported by all 3 major parties. Mindless capitalism with no regard to sustainability, support across the board. Here in India, there's the pseudo-fascist BJP who make Thatcher's economics look moderate and sensible, the Congress whose Social Democratic values comes to the fore only during elections and a bunch of regional parties whose sole aim is to look for the best deal for their province. Do we need to talk about the US?
I'd rather have 5 political parties, each with a different vision and different policies than 100 parties who just make up the numbers.
Just had a discussion with someone at work - who thinks its sad that Farage has gone, because of him representing the UK getting out of the EU... so naturally I questioned her about this, and she responded by saying well if we're out of the EU, we'll save millions that we pay to other countries, and we can just pick countries like France, Germany, Italy etc to trade with... not even stopping to think for a second that industries in these countries might not actually want to trade with us if we're out of the EU...
We're far too arrogant as a nation.
We're far too arrogant as a nation.
I actually do as well; all the personal attacks on him have been very unfair and out of order, but I think he has carried himself well despite all that. There are clearly much deeper issues for Labour, though I suspect Miliband will carry the can for this rather than asking deeper questions.
My problem was more with the team behind him, the likes of Balls, Harman, Alexander and Cooper are very unattractive and after last night's results I would think a fresh start on the Labour frontbench is vital right now. The exit of Balls should be a big help here.
Maybe different in the UK, but in Ireland I seem to be around people all the time who screw the system. They are a joke and give genuine people a bad name
Aye, that's spot on. Some sides of the media have been a disgrace with some of the stories on Ed. But yeah, it's time for a reshuffle for Labour.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think we are substantially a net importer in Europe, I hardly think it's likely that countries will decide they don't want to sell us goods. People will trade if it's financially viable and mutually beneficial, the world is too competitive for anything to get ahead of the profit motive.
My disappointment isn't so much that the Tories are in, I doubt Labour would have been much different. People voting Tory with no enthusiasm just to keep Labour out is understandable. The amount of seats they got shows that most people think they're doing a good job - THAT'S what I find disheartening. at least Farage lost!
Great spot