The scenes in this thread remind me of my feelings on the 16th of May last year when the Indian results were announced but I soon realized that overall the election results seem to have very little impact on my life. The one thing that I do enjoy about this day though is that irrespective of who wins you always get some great stories of ppl who won against all odds.
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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And I dont doubt this will be the case with the vast majority on here
That isn't the reality where I am (North Manchester) . UKIP have captured a lot more of the working class - lower middle class vote in this election I feel.
Its hardly an inspiring underdog story when the Tories have have had the media backing them, spending twice as much on the election and executing a campaign of fear and vilification.
The only 'feel good' aspect of this election is seeing the Lib Dems decimated, and I say that as a traditionally Lib Dem voter.
You seem to be making an argument on my behalf, I'm not arguing all tory voters are idiots, that's an ideological stance. Millions of those tories will have turned out on that basis such as in my local area where a tory government is beneficial.
My point was objecting to a statement that the majority have got what they wanted, I just don't agree that the bulk of the electorate understand what they're getting from any party. Once again there will be a lot of voter regret in a year or two but that's irrelevant.
At least when the bond market inevitably crashes its going to be on the tory government.
Tories as the underdogs!!! Poor beleaguered toffs. What a story of triumph over adversity!
Talking of them as Middle Englanders, I was referring more to Farage and the other UKIP mouthpieces than their voters. They'll play at being men of the people with a pint in hand at the bar of the Westminster Arms but in reality they're at home in the same leafy suburbs as Ed, Dave & Nick.
The only Pole threatening Nigel's position is the greasy one he's trying to climb up for a seat in parliament.
Sorry but I should have been a bit clearer, I didn't mean tories as underdogs but actually individuals like the one who beat Galloway being great stories.
We've already had direct cuts to disability benefits, is there any reason to think they won't consider it again?
Galloway lost to Labour I believe
I do prefer him to Ed.
Bloodbath. Glad I went to bed when I did
I've just turned my tv back on and Andrew Neill is still going strong. That's some impressive endurance from the old git.
The scale in the UK is massively overstated. So the concerns aren't very legitimate in the vast majority of cases. The right loves to cut things to the bone and then throw the blame elsewhere with the aid of the tabloids. That is what causes the rise of UKIP and the like.
When does the in/out referendum happen?
Official. Ed to stand down.
I suspect we'll see a more right wing (or more accurately, a centre ground) party emerge in time because one party can never represent the totality of views. Indeed even without indepdendence we might see that. However it could take several elections before a movement emerges.
My constituency has just declared Tory, just to cap off a horrible night 
2017 apparently
I'm talking on a town to town scale. The East end of London is a particular hot point right now, especially where my mum lives. Again I'll clarify my point later and explain my feelings on it, but the basic point is whether they are right or wrong there are fears and as Bury is saying Ukip have jumped all over them, whilst everyone else seems to dismiss them out of hand.
But they are there and they arent just because of Ukip, in fact it's the other way around.
Im trying to decide my response to this election - apathy? or get back involved in politics?
Not sure I can be bothered with apathy.
Not sure I can be bothered with apathy.
Damaging?
They've dragged the disabled through hell over the past 5 years and their vote has gone up!
Just got back from counting. This is bullshit. Labour vote share up 1.4%, down 26 seats. Conservative share up 0.7%, up 21 seats.
After the recent Memphis coup I reckoned he'd be safe
It speaks volumes of his broken promises in that constituency. His attendance in the local area and government itself was unbelievable. People had enough and whilst the candidate they have voted in doesn't strike me as a political genius, it's certainly good news to hear Galloway is out. Hopefully he and his party dissolve.
We live in the bordering constituency, and it was alarming to see the difference in campaigning. Galloway's tactics are not based on fixing local issues, he tickles the egos of people in the community with religious and cultural responsibility and plays off them to (attempt to) gain popularity. His Labour opposition has had a long career in the local health authority/NHS and didn't spend her campaign telling everyone she was filing a lawsuit against anyone who spoke badly of her.
Those that 'try to screw the system' are a tiny fraction. The 'Daily Mail' feeling that it is comonplace is entirely understandable but utter bollocks and bollocks that means those of us who struggle in ways that aren't always easy to explain ('my legs fell off' always feels a simpler one to justify than 'I'll curl in to a ball and cry for a week if I'm asked to do that') live in constant fear that we, as many have been, will be thrown in to that category by someone who doesn't understand what the issues around working are, as they aren't qualified to do so but were cheaper to hire than those that would be.
Who takes over at Labor now ?
Any chance of David Miliband returning ?
Any chance of David Miliband returning ?
Sorry if this has been asked before, but how did the pre-election polls get it so wrong? Did people change their minds when it came to vote or were the polls off?
I get your point and don't think you are a racist - just in case I give that impression.
The East End has always been a bit of a flash point for such migration type stuff so this isn't really anything new. Much of this is a bit NIMBY but we are all a bit prone to that.
There's a thread for that, join the discussion..
Basically, a lot of Tory voters prefer to masturbate thinking about foodbank queues and disabled people turning to suicide to avoid being a financial burden, in private.
Repeating "Tough decisions" and "We're all in this together" out loud in public is effectively their version of Grandma's funeral.
Labour only have themselves to blame - they have been too weak. Since the last election the Tories have been playing the "mess we inherited" line and Labour have never challenge this bullshit slogan because they were too afraid of upsetting the electorate. Instead they let this crap become the quote that everyone uses to associate with their party, so much so that everyone believes it as fact now. Add that to their fear of appearing too aggressive and failing to attack the Tories on the ever increasing level of debt they're putting on the country whilst the wealth gap increases, again because they're afraid of being attacked themselves, and you have a political party with no balls (Ed or otherwise).
They need to stop hiding and pretending everything will turn out okay, and instead actually come out and act like a proper opposition party.
They need to stop hiding and pretending everything will turn out okay, and instead actually come out and act like a proper opposition party.
Some have suggested Yvette Cooper (Ed Balls' wife) Shadow Home Secretary.
But David Milliband would be interesting, think he woulve done better than Ed today.
A few articles are popping up, but there's not been enough time for an indepth analysis. (heres one)
I guess the most obvious thing is that a lot of polls seem to obsess with the popular vote, but that doesn't translate directly into seats.
How depressing.
It's irrational. Medhi Hasan nails it:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ho-says-its-not-racist-talk-about-immigration
It's so sad, I just found 2 of my friends voted for them and they know nothing about their policies.
Cheers, will have a read through that. Once the dust settles down it will be interesting to find out what happened.
I like Yvette Cooper a lot. She is very articulate and a great speaker, also wouldn't mind seeing someone young and in touch with modern politics and its business aspects like Chukka Umunna.
As someone who's in a similar situation to yourself it's scary that there could be more cuts. At the moment the help is so basic and lacking that it's not worth calling it help.
Labour were always going to cut deep anyway but at the very least they didn't seem like a Party that despised people who are need of help. The Torys always have and now it seem so does the rest of the country.